Newbie Mafia 6 - OVER! Who lived happily ever after in Newbie Land?!

[Clownbot]

Because you're wrong.

You have yet to effectively defend yourself or explain why I am wrong.

 

[vanderzant]

Just so everyone is aware, deadline is tomorrow at noon. I will not be around until then, so my vote is staying where it is. PSI if you actually want to bring a serious case against Swiss, you need to do it in about at least a day ago.

QUICK LYNCH TIME!

But I think the deadline is midnight rather than noon.

 

[vanderzant]

@Kat: Looking back through Day 2 and Day 3, I noticed that you haven't given your views on rPSI, or you at least, you never mentioned that you consider him a lynch candidate. Is this a fair enough claim?

I was keen to see your thoughts on McFox, but you haven't posted them yet, and it's crunch time.

rPSI is at L-2 and I'm stating my intentions to put him at L-1 or hammer. I'd rather lynch SSBF to be honest, but I haven't seen any support in this.

Less than 24 hours until the deadline (if I'm converting time zones right).

 

[McFox]

Ah you're right, it is midnight. Still, my girlfriend is coming into town tomorrow so I won't really be posting. My vote on PSI stands.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

You have yet to effectively defend yourself or explain why I am wrong.

No, I don't.

PSI, I think it's too late for that case on Swiss now. I mean you can post it anyway for the coming day(s) but it won't stop you from being lynched I think.

 

[vanderzant]

EBWOP (#603): @Kat: Looking through Day 2 and toDay, I see you haven't given a stance on rPSI, or at least, I couldn't see whether or not you consider him a reasonable lynch candidate for toDay (or yesterday).

*terrible english on my part*

 

[Swiss]

@Swiss:
I don't get why you don't want a quick lynch when you're so god**** convinced that I'm scum.

Same reason I didn't quick lynch Fro.

Even if someone here wanted to save you I doubt they could - you haven't posted anything of substance to stop people voting you.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

There's like half a day left until deadline. PSI you're not doing yourself any favours by not posting that case regardless of your allignment. If you think Swiss's scum you might as well post it since you're want your allignment to win, not yourself.

 

[Deleted member]

ok rPSI is now at L-3 and if there is anything I want to avoid it is a no lynch.

Therefore
Vote: rPSI
For not brining up that case

 

[vanderzant]

@Mod: Request Vote Count because I think it's L-1

 

[Deleted member]

it shouldn't. last votecount only mcFox and Swiss voted him, and there were no votes changed till now.

 

[vanderzant]

Nah SSBF voted him

 

[Kataefi]

I feel like I'm not up to speed with things:- I think Rpsi has just been the love-to-hate figure throughout the game. I'm very uncertain as to what he's gonna flip.

I really want mcfox dead. I'll be online for awhile. unvote

let's see what the votecount is

 

[rPSIvysaur]

I want McFox and Swiss dead TBH.

 

[Clownbot]

No, I don't.

Iiiiiiiii don't even know what you mean here.

 

[vanderzant]

Kat I agree with what you're saying there. We can look into McFox and others more tomorrow.

Lynching rPSI is going to be better than a no lynch, so:

Vote: rPSI

Pretty sure that's the hammer, so hoping for a scum flip.

 

[Xiivi]

Day 3 Ends & Night 3 Begins!

Day 3 Vote Count 4:

Clownbot: (0)
Gheb_01: Clownbot (

)
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Kataefi: (0)
McFox: (0)
rPSI: McFox, Swiss, Super Smash Bros. Fan, The Paprika Killer, vanderzant (

)
The Paprika Killer: (0)
Super Smash Bros. Fan: (0)
Swiss: rPSI (

)
vanderzant: (0)
Not Voting: Gheb_01, Kataefi (

)

rPSI (Vanilla Townie) has been lynched!

It is now Night 3, please send in all Night Actions to me by 05.08.10 11:59PM EST.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

Bah, go town.

 

[Xiivi]

Day 4 Begins & Night 4 Ends!

Day 4 Vote Count 0:

Clownbot: (0)
Gheb_01: (0)
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Kataefi: (0)
The Paprika Killer: (0)
Super Smash Bros. Fan: (0)
Swiss: (0)
vanderzant: (0)
Not Voting: Clownbot, Gheb_01, Kataefi, The Paprika Killer, Super Smash Bros. Fan, Swiss, vanderzant (

)

McFox (Vanilla Townie) has been murdered!

Deadline for Day 4 has been set for May 16th, 2010 11:59PM EST.

4/7 to lynch.
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[Deleted member]

Right now, none of the remaining competitors have been scummy enough to warrant a vote. I will need to re-read the entire thread, thought, before placing a vote.

 

[vanderzant]

I've got a lot of assignments due tomorrow, so I'll make a proper post once they're done. I'm going to say that I'm quite stunned.

 

[Swiss]

rPSI and Kat said they wanted McFox dead.

Vanz agreed to look into him a lot today.

Read through the last 5 or so pages, McFox suspected rPSI pretty much all the way through, and didn't voice much in other directions (a clash with Kat and asking questions etc).

Bizarre NK choice - seems more anti-mafia than pro mafia.

 

[vanderzant]

rPSI and Kat said they wanted McFox dead.

Vanz agreed to look into him a lot today.

Read through the last 5 or so pages, McFox suspected rPSI pretty much all the way through, and didn't voice much in other directions (a clash with Kat and asking questions etc).

Bizarre NK choice - seems more anti-mafia than pro mafia.

My thoughts exactly. I was ready to push for a McFox lynch toDay.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

My thoughts exactly. I was ready to push for a McFox lynch toDay.

So since McFox is dead - what now? I think the issue people aren't getting is not that McFox is scummy and him dead helps us but that he was like the mainn suspect and we're a bit clueless now about where to look next.

Why else would you mention that you would've pushed McFox but don't even mention any other suspect? I know I'm going to take a close look at SSBF / Clownbot as well as the McFox vs Ryker interactions early d1.

 

[vanderzant]

I've still got assignments to do so I'm just checking the thread every hour or so (as I'm typing in MS word). I'll get to looking through the thread again when I have more time.

As for suspects, right now I'm thinking SSBF. He made it clear that he thought McFox was town, and it turns out that he was right. Scum have all the answers, is what I'm saying.

More from me at a better time.

 

[vanderzant]

I think the issue people aren't getting is not that McFox is scummy and him dead helps us but that he was like the mainn suspect and we're a bit clueless now about where to look next.

How are clueless? There's plenty of stuff for us to look into. I think we're more informed because instead of trying to lynch McFox toDay (which seemed to be on the agenda) we already have that flip. McFox was far from our only lead.

 

[Swiss]

I'd be interested to hear who SSBF suspects, and what he thinks about the Night Kill.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Clueless may not be the right word but I still can't help but think that we learn nothing from McFox' flip. At least not as much as we hoped to.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Prods?

 

[vanderzant]

Well I'm keen to get the day rolling so Vote: Super Smash Bros. Fan

For an in depth look at why I think he's scummy look at Post 568 and Post 586 from Day 3. The former is my initial argument, while the latter is where I rebutted SSBF's response.

Basically, he's set off the following scumtells in my head.

(1) Shows no committal to voting the players he find suspicious.
(2) Consistently posts who he thinks is scum and town.
(3) Consistently skims through the thread.

Firstly, I'll give you that I believe point (2) is part of your general play-style (I see you exhibit it in other mafia games). Nonetheless, it reinforces point (1) and isn't pro town to begin with.

Also, in his response Post 585, he did not rebut points (1) or (3) directly. Instead he responded to the largely irrelevant parts of my argument, or attacked the validity of the evidence (rather than the whole point).

Additionally, I found the play-style of the player who he replaced (Sworddancer) to be very similar in trying to "fly under the radar" so to speak. Post 439 from Day 2 kind of explains how I was feeling about Dancer at that stage.

 

[Deleted member]

Those are some interesting point you bring up on SSBF, however it seems that is just how he plays, given the games that I've been (and still) are in with him.

I'd be happy to vote him off, but it has to be now or never because the next day we can't really afford to just go after bad town/inactive etc.

 

[Swiss]

So, you're saying that if we don't lynch SSBF today, then we shouldn't lynch him at all?

 

[Deleted member]

well not if he actually gets more scummy, but this is about the last day, considering the number of players left, that we can lynch someone that just isn't helping.

 

[Clownbot]

Vi, I feel like you haven't really said much since you replaced in. Who's most suspicious to you atm? Why?

Oh yeah, Vote Gheb btw

 

[vanderzant]

If we mislynch toDay, assuming a night kill, we go into Day 5 with 3 Town : 2 Scum.

So at that point, it'll be Lylo (lynch or lose iirc). Since we're approaching the endgame, is it worth discussing things like who we don't wouldn't want in lylo? Or are we best off just continuing to lynch based on who we think is scummy?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

If we mislynch toDay, assuming a night kill, we go into Day 5 with 3 Town : 2 Scum.

So at that point, it'll be Lylo (lynch or lose iirc). Since we're approaching the endgame, is it worth discussing things like who we don't wouldn't want in lylo? Or are we best off just continuing to lynch based on who we think is scummy?

The latter.

 

[vanderzant]

Ok thought so. Anyone you finding scummy at the moment Gheb?

 

[vanderzant]

Actually, I'll just aim that question at everyone.

@All: Who is your #1 suspect for scum (and why). No need for a big case if you're all too busy atm, just say who you think the play for toDay should be, and we can discuss from there. I can't see the point in waiting another week before lynching if no one can think of anything new to discuss. Lurkers will lose the game for town, and I don't want to see that happen.

To answer my own question, right now, I'm pretty uncertain with my own reads, so I'm sticking to my guns and going with the reads I had earlier on in the game (else I'm just playing WIFOM with myself lol).

I never liked Dancer as town (looking back through Day 1 and 2) and I've been quite clear that I don't like SSBF as town either. If it means anything, McFox and SRB both picked up on Dancer Day 1.

As for a scum buddy, it's really too **** hard for me to pin down anyone. Most of my leads are really just WIFOM, but if I had to pick right now, I'd say Kat, but to be honest I can't really recall many other players laying down there opinion on SSBF/Dancer.

 

[Clownbot]

#1 suspect is Gheb with SSBF as a close second.

 

[Kataefi]

vanz if you take me out of the equation who would you consider along with dancer?

clown why gheb?

I want to look into PK to be perfectly - I suggest PK gives us his lowdown of each Day, let us know who he thinks is scum etc etc...

mcfox dying makes me sad