Ok first off, I mostly focussed on the living players during my reread, and
Vanderzant and
SSBF (when he replaced in) quickly got my attention.
Therefore this post will only contain posts about them, in chronological order. I thought about sorting them by each player, but the relation between them is interesting to see.
Analysis starts at D2, since most stuff from D1 gets quoted anyway.
#290, SwordDancer/SSBF:
notes Vanderzant is reluctant to vote FroHawk until it becomes clear FroHawk was going to be lynch of D1.
#296 Vanderzant:
Reluctant is probably a bad word to describe it. It was more so that I wasn't confident that Frohawk would flip scum.
Riiight
Did I want him lynched? If the majority of the town thought so too, and there were no bigger fish to fry.
First off all, there was no majority at the point you placed your vote. And why did you just go brainlessly along as you imply here.
#298, vanderzant:
I legitimately thought that this was a quick lynch orchestrated by the Mafia, in order to get a town player lynched.
And you voted along with that?
#310, vanderzant:
I consider myself one of the most active players of the game. This whole argument against me (well the frohawk part) is based off of one post where I was expressing my concern as an overly cautious townie (never thought I'd play cautiously, but I admit, I have).
Whoo, the activity argument. invalid as hell. also, first game so I don't get you saying "I never expected to" like you always play aggressive.
#316, Vanderzant:
responds to Ryker/V by saying his words got twisted by TheGuide, only to quote the "twisted" post by the_guide. instead of actually quoting his post to show it got twisted.
*SSBF replaces SwordDancer*
#339, vanderzant:
Additionally, SSBF I know you've just jumped into the game,
but I'd like you to give your thoughts on myself as soon as possible.
Very hasty about knowing SSBF's opinion on him. Interesting to say the least.
#364, SSBF:
******, my massive post went down the drain when I lost the tab.
Looks like I need to use Wordpad for massive-posts for now on.
Sorry about that, just want you to know that I have not forgotten about the game.
I did manage to reach to Post #97, thought. From what I read, Ryker is currently my top suspect in the game. He has been rude towards other people, made an unecessary bandwagon on Swiss, contradicts himself, and calls RQS an horrible thing that should not exist. At least McFox took the time to explain why he didn't like RVS.
I haven't read all the posts yet, so I won't post a vote. However, I will place an FoS: Ryker.
okay losing such a post can happen but the rest is just BS.
1) at #97 the game barely started, and you were building a case on that?
2) starting a bondwagon is a good thing, it means he tried to get out of RVS.
3) I can only agree that RQS is a horrible thing. RREAD xiivi's post about it in Dgames social
4) big pussyfooting by only placing an FoS.
#404, vanderzant:
Since others have done it, I think scum is some combination of rPSI, The_guide, Kat, SSBF.
Unvote
Vote: Super Smash Bros. Fan
Until he posts something constructive. Plus I don't want rPSI getting quick lynched by The_Guide
Bit of pressure is fine, but calling out the other 2 scum here out of 4 is... interesting, especially because 2 of them are now dead and turned out town.
#405, SSBF:
Not going to quote it, kind of big post.
COULD YOU POST ANY MORE FILLER?
1) you devote an entire paragraph to agreeing with Vanz post on you, like wtf.
Ryker has been playing extremely scummy in my eyes. Most of his posts has been filled with scumminess
and regarding the tunnelling situation, I believe he deserved each and every one of them.
2) wow, just wow, could you post any more filler on someone?
"I'm willing to spare him the vote, thought, as he has gotten slightly better since the incident."
3) still pussyfooting
4) does EXACTLY the same with rPSI, calling him scummy "because he acts scummy" (not quote) and then only
FoS him.
Actually explains he refuses to vote until his analysis is done. THEN DON'T FoS EITHER.
#406, vanderzant:
makes a post almost entirely consisting of quotes, barely his own comment, and then vote The_Guide. That's not really helping.
#408, SSBF:
I read Vanderzant's post today and I will be looking harshly at The Guide now. Espeically when my posts comes up.
Read: "I'll now be prejudiced on the_Guide throughout my analysis"
#420, SSBF:
I got done with responding to people. Now I need to see what's similarities that xxFrohawkxx had connection with and my general thought on all living players. And after all that, I will make a vote.
Still stalling, this better be good.
#425, SSBF (the big post):
Okay I'm not going to do a reread of a reread, that's just silly. therefore I will stick to the partwhere he states his opinion on everyone.
Gheb_01, The_guide, Clownbot, Swiss, SRB, rPSI, kat, McFox, Ryker: no comment on these opinions
HOWEVER, you keep stating activity as scum/town thing. STOP IT
Vanderzant: Oh god this is funny:
He is an very strong town player here. Posts usually have a lot of contents, he is very active, and defends himself well against others who opposed him at the beginning of Day 2. So far, only one scummy post has come out of him.
the activity argument (yay), and I don't think he defends himself that well.
This is where the link between the two is getting kind of obvious.
Also funny to note is that he notes with mcFox "gogo, keep it up!" and puts vanderzant at "strong town player" which would imply McFox being the towniest. but in the actual rankings he lists Vand as nr.1 town.
Votes the_Guide.
Plz learn to make you posts smaller.
*The_guide lynched, SRB NK'd*
#563, vanderzant:
on rPSI
What you say may be a valid point, but unless you can strengthen your case with evidence or greater reasoning, no one is going to support it, as you are just being hypocritical
Hypocrisy is not an argument. rPSI was still right
#565, SSBF:
On top of that, both players have brought a lot to the table, especially McFox.
Guess who died in the night after.
#566, 567, Vanderzant:
actually votes McFox while only saying he doesn't know how to handle the kind of play McFox uses.
Seems like a bad attempt at distancing here.
#568, vanderzant:
opens with voting SSBF (yes this is the posts right after the McFox vote)
and he actually brings solid points to the table on him, like lack of committal, constantly stating who is scum AND town, skimming.
the above things are typical things I've seen from SSBF so far (in this case and in other games), so I'm kind of split what to think of it
since before, SSBF agreed with vanderzant and he was town (keep this in mind)
*I join in*
#585, SSBF:
response to Vand's post (#568).
response to not commitment:
During Day 2 and 3, I was suspicious of five people. Kataefi, Ryker, The Guide (Day 2 Lynch), rPSI, and Ryker. That is not a majority. Even in Day 3, it wouldn't be a majority because The Guide is dead.
what does this have to do with anything?
posting reads scum and town:
The only time I can remember doing that is during my analysis and giving my opinion on McFox. Yes, I read up just for that.
I could swear there were other instances, and Vand debunks him in the next post.
on skimming:
Umm, you only voted me once to grab my attention. You voted me the first time because you wanted more out of me.
haha so funny. you even managed to skim that quote, it was about you skimming, not vand voting you to get your attention (which in itself is a bad thing too).
#586, vanderzant:
response to SSBF's response
Debukns SSBF saying he only did the town and scum reads once.
there is more but it is
onetwo pages back and you all prob still remember it.
Interesting to note is that everybody else seems to completely ignore these 2 guys at this point.
*rPSI lynched, McFox NK'd*
funny to see that right away (#620, #621)SSBF and vanderzant say "will make a serious post later" what is the point in doing this?
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I could search their D4 posts for intention but this is pretty much it.
SSBF, you should threat that FoS as heavy as a vote
