Vote Kirbyoshi
Your wish washy generalizations don't do any more help then Airgemini being dead quiet.
Your wish washy generalizations don't do any more help then Airgemini being dead quiet.
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Newbie Mafia #2: CAN THE NEWBIES STEP UP AND PLAY A SUCCESSFULE GAME?
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Kirbyoshi
Smash Apprentice
But is that scummy?
It's anti town.
Although anti-town doesn't = scummy
it doesn't equal a town win. So I have no reason to lift my vote.
Although anti-town doesn't = scummy
it doesn't equal a town win. So I have no reason to lift my vote.
Kirbyoshi
Smash Apprentice
But isn't Teran acting more scummy than I am? Do you really want to lynch someone you think is town?
Did I ever say I thought you were town?
Kirbyoshi
Smash Apprentice
You said that I was acting anti-town, which I guess I'm fine with, since anti-town =/= scummy. However, to vote someone simply on the basis of being anti-town, without doing something outrightly scummy, is kind of questionable.
Teran may have a bad attitude, but I don't believe he is scummy. Like, how stupid would that be to act like a jerk so you can gain bad rep and votes at the same time.
Regardless of his attitude, the only thing that Teran contributed in his previous post was "Well, these guys are like me so we fit in the same boat," which tells us nothing. It's simply easier to start voting Teran because of his demeanor.
I didn't see anything off except for his reasoning to ban Teran. I wouldn't classify Teran's behavior as "scummy". Scum aim to blend in yet he's sticking out like a sore thumb.
It doesn't help that you bandwagoned TUSM; if I remember correctly, he began the votes on Florida as well. Does anyone know if Zero bandwagoned TUSM's vote on Florida in Day 1?
Vote: Kirbyoshi until I see justified responses.
Regardless of his attitude, the only thing that Teran contributed in his previous post was "Well, these guys are like me so we fit in the same boat," which tells us nothing. It's simply easier to start voting Teran because of his demeanor.
I didn't see anything off except for his reasoning to ban Teran. I wouldn't classify Teran's behavior as "scummy". Scum aim to blend in yet he's sticking out like a sore thumb.
It doesn't help that you bandwagoned TUSM; if I remember correctly, he began the votes on Florida as well. Does anyone know if Zero bandwagoned TUSM's vote on Florida in Day 1?
Vote: Kirbyoshi until I see justified responses.
Nevermind. That was Dekuu.
Kirbyoshi
Smash Apprentice
Omni, you didn't even mention me in your post. Am I hidden somewhere in there, and I'm just not seeing where you said why you think I'm scummy?
That was directed to your post you made earlier. Forgot to quote it:
"Teran: I agree that your tone is very antagonistic, and you don't post much real content. If you're town, you're the most anti-town townie I've seen in my short Mafia career.
Read: Scum"
Kirbyoshi
Smash Apprentice
Omni, while he may be a mod, he is still listed as a newbie in this game. Therefore, he may not know how to play scum.
Still, as bad as Teran is, I really don't like that sorry excuse for a vote reason, especially from a vet.
Unvote Teran, Vote: KevinM
Still, as bad as Teran is, I really don't like that sorry excuse for a vote reason, especially from a vet.
Unvote Teran, Vote: KevinM
Kirbyoshi
Smash Apprentice
TUSM irks me though. First, he says he is pretty sure Teran is town; then, less than 24 hours later, he votes for Teran! Any logic behind that, TUSM?
yeah i was gonna bring this up. people saying "pierre suspected skyler before he died so skyler must've killed him" is unreliable at best. question for you/tusm/anyone else who's been behind that reasoning: you don't think pierre could've been a target for a mafia who wasn't skyler? why not?
also i'll vote: teran for trying to clear himself while contributing nothing and deflecting his accusations towards air and zero. tusm interests me too
The Phazon Assassin
Smash Champion
Teran's posts, though not scummy, definitely aren't helping town. We ask for his opinions on certain things, and we get nothing.
Also, this post bothers me. Instead of making his own accusations, he'll just wait for someone to be targeted, and either vote, or just sit back and watch the fireworks. I don't like this at all.
Now, you , Kirbyoshi, are being attacked, and twice, you've tried to pass the buck. You're cracking under pressure, and that isn't good.
Unvote: Teran
Gimme one good reason why I shouldn't vote for you...
Kirbyoshi
Smash Apprentice
I'll give you three good reasons:
1. I'm not scum
2. I'm trying to help town
3. I haven't done anything scummy
Need any more?
1. I'm not scum
2. I'm trying to help town
3. I haven't done anything scummy
Need any more?
The Phazon Assassin
Smash Champion
1. Yeah, in this game, no one's scum. We don't have a Serial Killer, either, right?
2. Giving a synopsis of what we already know isn't exactly helping us. (ex. Omni's opening post)
3. You haven't done anything scummy, but you also haven't cleared your name yet.
2. Giving a synopsis of what we already know isn't exactly helping us. (ex. Omni's opening post)
3. You haven't done anything scummy, but you also haven't cleared your name yet.
Nice OMGUS KirbYoshi, you certainly depicted in your posts where my accusations don't have any weight because i'm a vet?
You're saying my posts don't show that I'm a vet but you're giving me nothing to go off of besides your sweeping generalizations and OMGUS.
QED
You're saying my posts don't show that I'm a vet but you're giving me nothing to go off of besides your sweeping generalizations and OMGUS.
QED
Kirbyoshi
Smash Apprentice
Omni, OMGUS=Oh My God U Suck. Kevin is saying I voted for him because he voted for me. What I still don't get is that he voted me when the only thing I did that could even be considered scummy is replace for Zero Beat, who was quiet (which was why he was replaced. Give me one good reason why your vote is on me, and I'll take my vote off of you. So I guess I am voting for him because he voted for me, but only because his vote makes no sense.
Considering you replaced into a game where the person you replaced in as was so quiet, then you gave a wishy wash overview of the game and haven't made a single worth while post since I have my reason for a vote on you.
Kirbyoshi
Smash Apprentice
Maybe I did replace in for a really uber quiet person, but if I remember correctly, 0-Beat just dropped the game, after having contributed fairly well. Air didn't contribute alot at all at any time before he was replaced. So, why did you choose me as a target over meno?
Kirb, I do agree with Kevin really when it comes to your behavior. And, while anti-town=/= scummy, it CAN be a scum indicator. It can also be an indie indicator. To put it simply Kev's reasons for his vote on you are somewhat legit, and the OMGUS vote made it look a bit better. While I don't necessarily think you're scum, Kevin stated his reasons quite plainly, yet you seem to say that he doesn't have a point at all, when he does have one that could be easily remedied.
Kirbyoshi
Smash Apprentice
Ok, so I'll try to "remedy" it by asking every player a question:
TUSM: Why were you so sure that Teran was town, and then less than 24 hours later vote for him? Kinda strange to me...
Skyler: Why did you hammer Florida after he said that his bogus vote on Riddle was only fishing for reactions? Seems scummy.
Omni: Do you have any of your own reasons for voting me or are you just taking the word of someone whom you really shouldn't trust? (Unwritten rule #1 of Mafia: Trust No One.)
Riddle: Do you have any explanation for your predecessor's nervously scummy play?
Meno: If you are even checking this thread, why have you not posted yet?
Teran: What do you think you are accomplishing when all you post is abrasive sarcasm?
KevinM: Why were you so quick to vote me, but not quick to jump on Meno, and what can I do to prove myself to you?
Mentos: Umm...I'll think about your question and get back to you later, probably tonight.
Marshy: If you are supposed to be vetting, why did you devise a plan to out the Indie? Aren't you supposed to be helping the newbies?
TUSM: Why were you so sure that Teran was town, and then less than 24 hours later vote for him? Kinda strange to me...
Skyler: Why did you hammer Florida after he said that his bogus vote on Riddle was only fishing for reactions? Seems scummy.
Omni: Do you have any of your own reasons for voting me or are you just taking the word of someone whom you really shouldn't trust? (Unwritten rule #1 of Mafia: Trust No One.)
Riddle: Do you have any explanation for your predecessor's nervously scummy play?
Meno: If you are even checking this thread, why have you not posted yet?
Teran: What do you think you are accomplishing when all you post is abrasive sarcasm?
KevinM: Why were you so quick to vote me, but not quick to jump on Meno, and what can I do to prove myself to you?
Mentos: Umm...I'll think about your question and get back to you later, probably tonight.
Marshy: If you are supposed to be vetting, why did you devise a plan to out the Indie? Aren't you supposed to be helping the newbies?
Kirbyoshi
Smash Apprentice
Here's something for mentos, from way back on page 8:
What makes you think there are 3 mafia? Don't the rules state that there could be 2 or 3? This looks like inside knowledge to me...Xace never said he thought all three of them were scum, just that he was suspicious of all three of them, but couldn't really put his finger on just one.
It says specifically in the first post there will be 3 mafia.
And if that doesn't prove it take a look at the role pms for the mafia roles, which all state you are mafia with (blank) and (blank). Nice try though.
Kirbyoshi
Smash Apprentice
Oops, you're right, I guess I was thinking of another game. Nvm then, I'll try to come up with something for you. In the meantime, relish in the fact that you are the only one I can't find a question for, although that could be a good or bad thing...<_< >_>
The Phazon Assassin
Smash Champion
I already answered this question. I guess I'll answer it again.
He was already on my watch list when he pretty much said "if you want to lynch me, allow me to help." Also, his keep everything to himself attitude and smart aleck-y remarks isn't producing anything to help us.
He only told the Serial Killer or the Survivor to claim. I don't know why he mentioned the survivor, it's just a free lynch. But the SK, as I see it, is 97% not helpful, going around killing as he pleases. If he was foolish enough to claim, or question his reasoning as both you and Kevin did, we can get rid off him before he causes any real damage.
But, my name isn't Marshy, so I shouldn't be answering that question.
Skyler's been too quiet. I wanna hear from him soon.
Again your questions are so ridiculously unhelpful. You're not probing people you're scratching the surface.
Also I find it ridiculously suspicious that your defense against me so far has been, "look at Teran" and now its "Look at Meno"
Also I find it ridiculously suspicious that your defense against me so far has been, "look at Teran" and now its "Look at Meno"
Kirbyoshi
Smash Apprentice
Kev: Question dodge much?
I'm not giving you criteria to prove yourself with, this isn't a hold your hands situation.
And I addressed the Meno thing in my post.
And I addressed the Meno thing in my post.
Kirbyoshi
Smash Apprentice
You didn't answer why you were so quick to jump on me, of everyone in this game.
deepseadiva
Bodybuilding Magical Girl
I've been ridiculously busy lately and haven't time to read much.
I'll clear some time and be posting soon though.
I'll clear some time and be posting soon though.
Thanks for replacing in not to play.
Abrasive sarcasm is just how I am. You can ask just about anyone who knows me, they'll attest to that.
You'd think a defence would be more focused wouldn't you? I find it odd how he's trying to shift suspicion towards more than just one player. Usually if you're trying to deflect suspicion, you'd do it by providing a strong and coherent argument as to why suspicion should lie with someone else.
Just my .02
Just to clarify. With the someone else, I mean a sole individual which you'd mount a strong case against.
winning takes first priority. the sk/survivor needs us to lose so no i won't be helping him
bad thing considering he's been pretty non-committal for a while and almost never votes when he casts suspicion towards someone. i'd actually be very happy with his lynch
unvote: teran, vote mentos
I voted you because of your ******** reason for voting Teran. I explained this already.
What is worse is that now you've lifted your vote off Teran and put it on Kevin even though he had a much more justified reason for placing his vote on you. The ease in which you lifted Teran's vote combined with your reason to vote Kevin ("Vote Me and I'll Vote You") doesn't make it any easier for me to remove any suspicion from you.
I agree with Marshy on the fact that it's bad you don't have any questions for me... I can think of a few I would ask myself in anyone else's shoes, and am surprised people haven't really mentioned them. And, Marshy, to your comment about me not using my vote, quite simply it's the game that makes me more reluctant than usual to make a vote... I saw the quick lynch in D1 of Newbie, and how close it was to another quick-lynch near endgame. I'm mostly keeping my vote off more often than usual to help avoid that, as compared with the regular d-gamers, it's more likely for a mistake to be made by newer players, and I hope to avoid that kind of situation.
*this sopt be reserved for a vote countt*