New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

When I look at the Custom Robos, I'm rather surprised that they're actually quite small. Funny how their artworks make you think that they're as tall as actual humans.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Now that is what I want to see in SSB4.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

I like the series Custom Robo even though it's rather underdeveloped. I'm also curious on the moves they would give him. I mean since he is design to have custom parts it leaves me to wonder what kind of gun, missiles, and grenades. Plus the shining fighter only had two jumps so they would have to do something about the "Up B".

This move-set is going to be the most Likely :

B : Gun shots (Dragon gun is my most appreciated :D )

B- Down : Pods :D can be controlled like Snake's side B

B- Up : Missiles he can throw them vertically where you can choose where to land.

B- Side : Dash move works like Fox B-Side.

He will be able to fly like R.O.B (I know he can't do that in-game but it's Sakurai we are talking about)

Final Smash : He turn in to the golden thing (forgot the name of the mode)....

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

There are no "dead" series at Nintendo (although Mother is done simply because Itoi meant it to be a series with a beginning, middle and end). Kid Icarus is proof of that.

Many series, however, are in a coma at the moment.

Such as Star Fox and F-Zero. Star Fox 64 is being remade for the 3DS, but ever since Star Fox Command showed up, the Star Fox series pretty much halted.

In a similar note, F-Zero hasn't been brought onto the Wii either. However, we might get surprised if one gets made for the Wii U in the future.

 

[Deleted member]

@Picture: Ray 01 looks like Mega Man X's long lost/half-brother.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

@Picture: Ray 01 looks like Mega Man X's long lost/half-brother.

I happens to a be a big fan Mega Man X to :D.

 

[OmegaXXII]

@Picture: Ray 01 looks like Mega Man X's long lost/half-brother.

When I saw his trophy in for the first time in Melee, I thought the same thing lol..

 

[Spire]

Good job Sakurai, I now want three new candidates from Kid Icarus alone—more than just Girahim from Skyward Sword as a new Zelda rep.

 

[Shorts]

In my opinion, the only character that has the right to be "Luigified" is luigi himself. everyone else can and should be there own seperate entity. If a character is unqiue, or doesn't bring something different to the table, I don't really want five lugiificated characters over one unique one.


Oh, and Medusa and Gaol FTW ^^^

 

[Oasis_S]

Would anyone else like Goku for Sm4sh?

Oh, you were thinking of someone else? Unfortunately this Goku probably has about as low of a chance as whomever it was you were thinking of.

 

[Conviction]

Fail. If you actually knew Japanese his name says "Gokuu" with a long vowel on the "u" and not "Goku" with no long vowel on "u" referring to the DBZ character.

A for effort though.

 

[Spire]

I'd like Magnus in because he looks like Paul Stanley:

Which is all kinds of awesome.

 

[Deleted member]

Alright, I've decided. Based on IMO, the likelihood of the characters being in SSB4, these are the characters I am going to support:

- Mega Man (My most wanted)
- Ridley
- King K. Rool
- Bowser Jr.
- Medusa
- Saki Amamiya/Isa Jo
- Takamaru
- Victini (I honestly could care less for Zoroark. At least Victini sounds like an interesting character)
- Little Mac
- A fifth Pokemon Rep

Unless we get new information that makes other players more likely, my mind is not changing.

Would anyone else like Goku for Sm4sh?

Oh, you were thinking of someone else? Unfortunately this Goku probably has about as low of a chance as whomever it was you were thinking of.

I obviously have no hope for either Goku's and quite frankly, I can deal without them. If either of them were made playable, I would be like "WTF just happened?".

Also, out of all potential Kid Icarus rep, the one I want the most is Medusa.

 

[Conviction]

I would say DBZ just broke the game.

 

[Deleted member]

Going to bed.

Just want to say that I will be writing my essays on this game from here. I have quite a few things I want to write about.

 

[Oasis_S]

Fail. If you actually knew Japanese his name says "Gokuu" with a long vowel on the "u" and not "Goku" with no long vowel on "u" referring to the DBZ character.

A for effort though.

All the Japanese I know comes from this song. I couldn't tell you what it means other than that it is the strongest in the whole world.


Anyway. Uh. Ridley and Sukapon for Sm4sh. So on-topic.

 

[Shorts]

Anyway. Uh. Ridley and Sukapon for Sm4sh. So on-topic.

It's funny you metion these two. Sakurai, I do believe, made excuses for both these characters in the same interview.

 

[Oasis_S]

It's funny you metion these two. Sakurai, I do believe, made excuses for both these characters in the same interview.

That sounds vaguely familiar. I don't suppose you'd have a link handy?

I recall one interview where, upon being asked about having Ridley playable, he said something like "He would be a little slow wouldn't he?" That was years ago though, and I haven't found it again yet. Memory is probably off anyway.

 

[vVv Rapture]

At this point, I think Sakurai may actually work on SSB4 more intensively and with more purpose than he did with Brawl, but still not as much as Melee.

So no more excuses Sakurai. Ridley. Put him in there. Playable.

 

[Kantrip]

K. Rool will get neglected again, I am 100% positive.

 

[vVv Rapture]

K. Rool will get neglected again, I am 100% positive.

So very unfortunate, because I want him to be playable but I fear this may happen.

 

[Shorts]

That sounds vaguely familiar. I don't suppose you'd have a link handy?

I recall one interview where, upon being asked about having Ridley playable, he said something like "He would be a little slow wouldn't he?" That was years ago though, and I haven't found it again yet. Memory is probably off anyway.

I don't feel like looking for the link, but it's common knowledge around the board.

Mr. Saturn's excuse was that he didn't have limbs, ergo most characters like tetris block, original pac man go along with him.

Urban Champion was not added to melee because "All they can do is punch" (Although all Marth can do is slice)

Bubbles moves too much (Lame)

Excitebike would need ramps everywhere (I don't see why)

And Ridley was. "TOO BIG" (HarHar)


EDIT: It was Mr. Saturn, not Sukapon. He also talks about Animal Crossing characters being "too peacful" Nintendogs "would not look right" because they are puppies.

 

[Oasis_S]

I don't feel like looking for the link, but it's common knowledge around the board.

Mr. Saturn's excuse was that he didn't have limbs, ergo most characters like tetris block, original pac man go along with him.

Urban Champion was not added to melee because "All they can do is punch" (Although all Marth can do is slice)

Bubbles moves too much (Lame)

Excitebike would need ramps everywhere (I don't see why)

And Ridley was. "TOO BIG" (HarHar)


EDIT: It was Mr. Saturn, not Sukapon. He also talks about Animal Crossing characters being "too peacful" Nintendogs "would not look right" because they are puppies.

Hurm. I was around all the time back in the pre-Brawl days and I never saw that brought up. For Ridley at least. (Not from Sakurai, I mean, "TOO BIG" was/is everywhere.)

Oh well. I'm sure he'll wisen up this time.

Also, last I checked, Ridley was the most voted for new character after Pokemon stuff on your poll. :D

 

[Shorts]

Also, last I checked, Ridley was the most voted for new character after Pokemon stuff on your poll. :D

That's because the pokemon stuff is required. It's a big dumb process that next year I plan on cutting down. I do one every January, so I hope having a poll at all is still realivant. Hopefully no major leaks. Anyways, that interview is pretty well known, unfortunetly I don't have a link to it and no one I know that can vouch for it has commented recently.

I hope characters like Bowser turn out a little more like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtDpwp7eres&feature=related execpt more people can be this good.

 

[Hoots]

K. Rool will get neglected again, I am 100% positive.

As much as it makes me weep to f*cking say it, I think I agree. However, with his recent surge in popularity among Smash fans, I think if Sakurai takes a poll (Which he should) maybe he'll take notice of him.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Good job Sakurai, I now want three new candidates from Kid Icarus alone—more than just Girahim from Skyward Sword as a new Zelda rep.

Medusa would definetly make a great Antagonist for Pit, and the good thing is that there's a high possibility of her making it in.

Whoo!! Yeah!!

 

[Spire]

I now want Medusa more than anyone. She's been a Nintendo antagonist since 1986. Time to join the ranks!

And man, if they somehow threw Dracula in from Castlevania, the two together in Smash Bros. would be equally ridiculous and extravagent.

 

[Life]

Medusa for boss battle IMO. She's too big

Magnus sounds interesting though.

 

[Katakiri]

Medusa would definetly make a great Antagonist for Pit, and the good thing is that there's a high possibility of her making it in.

Whoo!! Yeah!!

Keep in mind that Kirby didn't get a second rep until Brawl. Sakurai's ego isn't THAT big. I imagine Pit's going solo until he gets at least one more game after Uprising. (assuming Kid Icarus will be a strong Nintendo series)

Love to see her in Smash though. Just unlikely. :/

I'd love to see more female characters in general in Smash

Jill Dozer
Dixie Kong
Mia (Fire Emblem)
Toon Zelda/Darknut Alt-form (Spirit Tracks)
Kumatora (Mother 3)
Lip (Panel De Pon)
Kat & Anna (Wario) Go to hell ICs

Just to name a few of the ones that actually have half a shot. (Minus Kat & Anna ): )

I really hope Sakurai uses that Toon Zelda + Darknut combo so there's not 2 Sheiks, as unlikely as Sakurai being that awesome would be.

 

[Berserker.]

If we are going to talk about Phoenix Wright, then I'd say he should be an Assist Trophy. The reason being that Phoenix Wright is a lawyer, not a fighter. I think the best function would be when the character summons him, he will stand around for about 20 seconds and if someone attacks that character, it will be an "Objection!" counterattack. That's my thoughts. There are good reasons why Phoenix Wright didn't appear as a playable character in MvC3.

I think some characters form Brawl can return, but as Assist Trophy because they really don't serve a lot of significance or doesn't really have much of a significant fanbase or fan support (Mr. Game and Watch, ROB, Ice Climbers, Lucas, etc.). For the Pokeball, if Lucario were to return, it would make more sense to have him there. Since we're in Generation V in Pokemon, Zoroark would be the most ideal playable Pokemon to debut (since he's mostly based out Lucario and also Mewtwo, the two Pokemon furries). Unless, of course, if Sakurai decides to put both Lucario and Zoroark as playable characters, then that would be insane.

I decided to put up the playable character roster on the returning Nintendo characters, returning third-party, and new third-party characters.

Returning Nintendo:

1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Bowser
4. Peach
5. Wario
6. Yoshi
7. Link
8. Ganondorf
9. Zelda (Shiek)
10. Donkey Kong
11. Diddy Kong
12. Kirby
13. King Dedede
14. Meta Knight
15. Fox
16. Falco
17. Wolf
18. Pikachu
19. Jigglypuff
20. Ness
21. Marth
22. Pit
23. Samus/Zero Suit Samus

Returning third party:

• Sonic
• Snake

New Nintendo characters:

1. Little Mac
2. Issac
3. Zoroark
4. Saki Amamiya
5. Krystal
6. Samurai Goroh
7. King K. Rool

New third party:

1. Megaman
2. Zero (Megaman)
3. Marona (Phantom Brave)
4. Ash (Phantom Brave)
5. Etna (Disgaea)
6. Flonne (Disgaea)
7. Laharl (Disgaea)
8. Asagi (cameo in most of Nippon Ichi's games)
9. Ryu (Street Fighter)
10. Ken Masters (Street Fighter)
11. Chun-Li (Street Fighter)
12. M. Bison (Street Fighter)
13. Amataerasu (Ookami)
14. Chris Redfield (Resident Evil)
15. Albert Wesker (Resident Evil)
16. Cloud (Final Fantasy)
17. Squall (Final Fantasy)
18. Viewtful Joe
19. Dante (Devil May Cry)
20. Felicia (Darkstalkers)
21. Morrigan (Darkstalkers)
22. Tails (Sonic)
23. Knuckles (Sonic)
24. Nathan Spencer (Bionic Commando)
25. Arthur
26. Mike Haggar (Final Fight)
27. Crono (Chrono Trigger)
28. Frank West (Dead Rising)

BTW, Nintendo only have to contact five companies for this (Sega, Capcom, Konami, Nippon Ichi, and Square Enix), so this roster should lower the work load (ditched Marvel out).

That is too much 3rd parties. I only expect Mega Man, Snake and Sonic as 3rd parties. If there is one more to be added in that 3rd parties, it would be Ryu.

Medusa for boss battle IMO. She's too big

Magnus sounds interesting though.

Size argument?

I guess she would be a worthy 3DS exclusive.

My turn and here's my redone roster:

Spoiler

Mario universe:
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
Toad
Bowser Jr.

Zelda universe:
Link
Zelda/Shiek
Ganondorf (Sword)
Young Link

Donkey Kong universe:
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
Dixie Kong
K Rool

Metroid universe:
Samus/ZSS
Ridley

Yoshi universe:
Yoshi

Star Fox unuiverse:
Fox
Falco
Wolf

Kirby universe:
Kirby
Meta Knight
King Dedede

Pokemon universe:
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Zoroark
Pokemon Trainer (3)

Earthbound universe:
Ness
Lucas

F-zero universe:
Captain Falcon

Retro universe:
Game and Watch
Ice Climbers
ROB
Takumaru

Paper Mario universe:
Paper Mario (3DS)

Kid Icarus universe:
Pit
Medusa

Wario universe:
Wario

Pikmin universe:
Olimar (Wii U)

Punch out universe:
Little Mac (Wii U)

Golden Sun Universe:
Isaac (3DS)

3rd party:
Snake
Sonic
Mega Man

Newcomers:
Toad
Bowser Jr.
Young Link
Dixie
K Rool
Ridley
Takumaru
Mega Man
Zoroark
3 new pokemons of Pokemon Trainer

Exclusives:

3DS:
Isaac
Paper Mario

Wii U:
Little Mac
Olimar

Number of newcomers: 13 (Both Wii U and 3DS)

Number of characters: 43, 48 (With transformations)

2 free slots for characters or not. I made it below 50. The problem is it's equal so I think most of the exclusives should go to the Wii U. Any characters in this roster?

I'm supporting Toad, Ridley, Jr, and pretty much all the newcomers in my roster.

 

[Sonic Poke]

Why put characters exclusive to Wii U and 3DS, if the two consoles will interact in some way? The list should be the same as the title will be the same. And it is quite likely that even if a player is on the Wii U and the other in 3DS, they can play games together. Well, that's my opinion!

 

[Berserker.]

Why put characters exclusive to Wii U and 3DS, if the two consoles will interact in some way? The list should be the same as the title will be the same. And it is quite likely that even if a player is on the Wii U and the other in 3DS, they can play games together. Well, that's my opinion!

I doubt the roster will be the same. The 3DS doesn't have enough power to hold lot of character for SSB 4. The main problem with my roster is that the exclusives of the 3DS is as much as the Wii U. I'm gonna think about it...

For now... There are 2 free slots in my roster.

 

[Sonic Poke]

Ah ... I Understand it!

 

[Berserker.]

I think I remember stating a solution about the character problem. Maybe Sakurai should lower the graphics or something else to leave space for other characters. This might result to the next SSB 4 having ugly graphics/visuals but then again, it's a solution to those who don't have 3DS (Myself included) and those who might not buy the Wii U. There are gamers who don't play the game for it's graphics and visuals (Then again, myself included). I don't know if Sakurai will respond to this problem but as of now, it seems like the chances of lesser characters in SSB 4 3DS is bigger than both Wii U and 3DS rosters being equal.

 

[Sonic Poke]

One thing is certain: SSB3DS will have the same amount or less characters than the Wii U, will never exceed!

 

[Oasis_S]

3DS exclusives are such a silly idea.

"I want you to be able to build up your character, and transfer it over to the WiiU version to show it off to everyone. Except these characters. You can't do a thing with them!"

If any version gets exclusives, which I'm doubting will happen, it'll be the WiiU version.

 

[Sonic Poke]

Oasis, You're very Right!

 

[User33]

3DS exclusives are such a silly idea.

"I want you to be able to build up your character, and transfer it over to the WiiU version to show it off to everyone. Except these characters. You can't do a thing with them!"

If any version gets exclusives, which I'm doubting will happen, it'll be the WiiU version.

You doubt that the WiiU version will get exclusives?

Enjoy your 30-35 (including transformations) roster then!

 

[Gamingboy]

Would you rather have, say, a 40-character roster- probably with more SSBB characters "cut" to make room for the ever marketable new fighters- on both 3DS and Wii U, or would you want a 30-40 character 3DS and a 40-50 Wii U? This isn't a situation where we can have both- we can have the same rosters in both 3DS and Wii U, but that'll mean fewer characters overall.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Some more Event Match thoughts...

Spoiler

Ganondorf

Sword Clash: It's a battle between blades as Ganondorf confronts Link, Marth, and Ike.

R.O.B.

Boxing Days: Little Mac and King Hippo want to get some fighting in. Summon them with Assist Trophies, and watch them take out the competition. Donkey Kong is your opponent. Also, you and Donkey Kong can only damage each other with Assist Trophies.

Wolf

Invisible Welfare: Wolf has dealt with many things, but can he defeat two invisible entities from his past? KO Fox and Falco, who are always invisible.

Zoroark

Illusion Amuck: Zoroarks are everywhere, but which one is the real one?

Samurai Goroh

A Bounty Hunter's Pride: It's a fight to KO Black Shadow as Captain Falcon and Goroh fight for the bounty. You have to be the one to KO Black Shadow to win this event match. You fail if Black Shadow SDs, or gets KO'd by Captain Falcon.

Saki

Alien Control: Saki has dealt with Ruffians. Now it's time for him to deal with unwelcome space visitors. Opponents include Samus, Kirby, Fox, Captain Falcon, Falco, Olimar, Wolf, and Ridley.

Any Character

Master Hand's Challenge: Master Hand and Crazy Hand challenge you. Defeat them both with only 1 life.

An Epic Finale: Giant Ridley, Bowser, and Ganondorf unite.

The True Finale: Mario, Sonic, Tails, White Mage, and Black Mage join forces. You face all 5 opponents at the same time.