New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Thino]

Marvel characters in smash is just as bad as anime characters

Keep it video game characters

as much as I understand your hate for either , the possibility still exists

 

[ETWIST51294]

Including third-party characters like Snake and Sonic was a step forward for the Super Smash Bros. series, including characters that are not debuted through video games (4th party) is a step even further, and Marvel happens to be a good start judging by the fact that Sakurai is interested in working with Capcom for the next Super Smash Bros. Including Final Fantasy and Nippon Ichi characters (Disgaea and Phantom Brave) is two steps more forward. So in turn, I hope Nintendo can go four steps forwards and try to appeal to other gamers as well.

Great, lets turn smash into ****ing MUGEN.

Disregard that the ****ing name of the game in Japan is NINTENDO ALL STAR.

 

[SixWingedAsura]

Can Master/Crazy hand (or a miniature representation thereof) be included? Come on, it'd be awesome! It could walk on two fingers! And you'd have mini versions of certain attacks! Gun, pound, slap, ect!

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

as much as I understand your hate for either , the possibility still exists

It shouldn't turn into a horrible game like Super Smash Flash or whatever the crappy flash version was called.

If they want anime in a fighting game, import one from Japan. If they want Marvel characters, play marvel vs capcom.

Smash is for Nintendo characters and guests


Edit: Also leave Thor Vs Lupey Vs Mario to MUGEN

 

[Dark Paladin X]

Probably not because it's good free advertising for those companies, but I doubt we'll see any characters that did not originate in video games

Considering that the inclusion of Snake in Brawl was due to the request from the creator (Hideo Kojima) rather than the fandom themselves (which was the case of Sonic's appearance in SSBB), so Hideo didn't really ask too much in monetary terms when including Snake in unlike Sega.

EDIT: Inclusion on some of the Capcom characters I've suggested may be possible depending how much the original creators wants it or not (or fandom bragging rights). Inclusion due to fandom bragging rights would obviously have more money involved than original creator's request (like the case with Solid Snake).

 

[mynameiscamden]

If they actually added Tingle, I would have to kill someone. Some poor ******* who works at Nintendo would have to die for my utter and complete rage. There are TONS of better characters than Tingle. And who the F is Ninten? I'd also like to reject the idea of Slippy. He makes me only slightly less confused than the suggestion for Mother Brain.

EDIT: Crap, accidently double posted. Sorry.

Haha I completely understand your feelings about Tingle but he's popular in Japan and even has his own successful spinoff games and Ninten is the character from the first Mother, before Ness.

 

[Thino]

Probably not because it's good free advertising for those companies, but I doubt we'll see any characters that did not originate in video games

only if the companies want it of course

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Haha I completely understand your feelings about Tingle but he's popular in Japan and even has his own successful spinoff games and Ninten is the character from the first Mother, before Ness.

Isn't his last game 2 generation old or something?

 

[Dark Paladin X]

Haha I completely understand your feelings about Tingle but he's popular in Japan and even has his own successful spinoff games and Ninten is the character from the first Mother, before Ness.

Speaking of Tingle, this is something I've come across TV Tropes:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AmericansHateTingle

The opposite one is this:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Some more Assist Trophy thoughts...

Midna: Midna appears in her imp form. When summoned, she'll use her powers to inflict damage to opponents. On rare occasions (about 10%), she'll use the Fused Shadows to change into a creature that can heavily damage opponents.

Spoiler

Sledge Bro.: It'll perform a ground pound, which will stun nearby opponents who are on the ground. If opponents are too close, it'll use its hammer to knock them back.

Spoiler

Rotohex: When summoned, several hexes will start falling from above. The hexes don't do much damage, but the damage can rack up, due to how many there are.

Spoiler

Tom Nook: Tom Nook will leave behind a set of boxes, which will contain various items. However, some of the boxes may contain explosives.

Spoiler

Ducks: Two ducks from Duck Hunt will fly around. Although the ducks are harmless, a target cursor will be following them. Don't get caught in the crosshairs, or you may take some good damage from the shot.

Spoiler

 

[Onomanic]

@Mario and Sonic Guy, those are some excellent ATs! I especially like the duck hunt idea. Very cool.

Even as a semi-competitive player, I enjoy all those little things the developers add in, like ATs and stuff. Always a lot of fun.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Speaking of Tingle, this is something I've come across TV Tropes:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AmericansHateTingle

The opposite one is this:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff

Thanks to you I just spent the last 30 minutes randomly clicking tv tropes articles and watched a youtube video about Mr. Popo

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

@Mario and Sonic Guy, those are some excellent ATs! I especially like the duck hunt idea. Very cool.

Even as a semi-competitive player, I enjoy all those little things the developers add in, like ATs and stuff. Always a lot of fun.

Only if a dog rises from the bottom of the screen and starts laughing if you get shot

Edit: Yes, NOW I realize I just posted twice in a row instead of editing

 

[Starphoenix]

I'm beginning to wonder how much of a chance Xenoblade will have in terms of being a new series we see in the next Smash? It appears we are going to see Xenoblade localized, rumours are stating by September. If Sakurai was considering Saki Amamiya prior Star Successor, than why wouldn't Sakurai take a look at this series? It is a Nintendo IP that is doing fairly well in Japan and has some kind of following in the West. Would Shulk be such a surprising pick?

 

[vVv Rapture]

Honestly I'd be perfectly okay with that. I actually imported Chronicles, and though my Japanese isn't good, it's pretty fun.

 

[Gallowglass]

Some more Assist Trophy thoughts...

Midna: Midna appears in her imp form. When summoned, she'll use her powers to inflict damage to opponents. On rare occasions (about 10%), she'll use the Fused Shadows to change into a creature that can heavily damage opponents.

Spoiler

Sledge Bro.: It'll perform a ground pound, which will stun nearby opponents who are on the ground. If opponents are too close, it'll use its hammer to knock them back.

Spoiler

Rotohex: When summoned, several hexes will start falling from above. The hexes don't do much damage, but the damage can rack up, due to how many there are.

Spoiler

Tom Nook: Tom Nook will leave behind a set of boxes, which will contain various items. However, some of the boxes may contain explosives.

Spoiler

Ducks: Two ducks from Duck Hunt will fly around. Although the ducks are harmless, a target cursor will be following them. Don't get caught in the crosshairs, or you may take some good damage from the shot.

Spoiler

Very good ideas. I also really like the Duck Hunt one.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

alsdfjlskd

 

[L-a-t-e-r-a-l-u-s]

I'm beginning to wonder how much of a chance Xenoblade will have in terms of being a new series we see in the next Smash? It appears we are going to see Xenoblade localized, rumours are stating by September. If Sakurai was considering Saki Amamiya prior Star Successor, than why wouldn't Sakurai take a look at this series? It is a Nintendo IP that is doing fairly well in Japan and has some kind of following in the West. Would Shulk be such a surprising pick?

He looks pretty cool actually. I think he'd be a good pick, and is probably kinda likely. Looks like he'd fit in just right with Smash.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

He looks pretty cool actually. I think he'd be a good pick, and is probably kinda likely. Looks like he'd fit in just right with Smash.

^^^^^ I second that

 

[OmegaXXII]

Ducks: Two ducks from Duck Hunt will fly around. Although the ducks are harmless, a target cursor will be following them. Don't get caught in the crosshairs, or you may take some good damage from the shot.

Spoiler

I love this idea, it would totally work.

 

[Onomanic]

Does anyone believe that SSB4 will get its own controller specifically tailored to the game? Perhaps something to simulate the Gamecube controller? Sakurai did say the best way to play Brawl was on the GCC, and, given that there is only one tablet per Wii U, and the only remaining controller options are Wii leftovers, I find this to be quite possible. I figure we gotta stay hopeful, you know?

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Does anyone believe that SSB4 will get its own controller specifically tailored to the game? Perhaps something to simulate the Gamecube controller? Sakurai did say the best way to play Brawl was on the GCC, and, given that there is only one tablet per Wii U, and the only remaining controller options are Wii leftovers, I find this to be quite possible. I figure we gotta stay hopeful, you know?

I think the tablet is going to be the main way to play smash just to keep it relevant to the 3ds. SSB. because the control scheme is heavily the same.

 

[Sephy95]

That tablet thing better not be the only way to play SSB4. I want more control options. I'm sure everyone does.

 

[OmegaXXII]

I think the tablet is going to be the main way to play smash just to keep it relevant to the 3ds. SSB. because the control scheme is heavily the same.

It seems like the obvious choice but still, a bit of options such as the classic controller or maybe even a Gamecube remake via USB would also help as far as choices go.

 

[Dark Paladin X]

I do realize in this thread that while having Marvel characters in Super Smash Bros. 4 is a great idea (since Capcom is being involved here), it might not work out realistically. But still, I still defend my position of including the Marvel and Disgaea/Phantom Brave characters. You can't change my mind. I have ideas.

Being said, I would even be surprised if Marvel jumps into the picture.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

It seems like the obvious choice but still, a bit of options such as the classic controller or maybe even a Gamecube remake via USB would also help as far as choices go.

Looking at Brawl you better expect more options , unless SSB4 had a more complicated mechanics.

 

[Gamingboy]

Nintendo ALWAYS has customizability. ALWAYS. The question is not whether there will be multiple control schemes, but rather how many.

 

[vVv Rapture]

Let me repeat for like the last time:

Smash will not use the tablet. The console only supports 1 (possibly 2), and the quality and make of the controller is just not good for Smash.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Let me repeat for like the last time:

Smash will not use the tablet. The console only supports 1 (possibly 2), and the quality and make of the controller is just not good for Smash.

Ever saw this beautiful babe right here ?

 

[Sephy95]

The tablet doesn't even have a control stick. There sure as hell better be more options. With all the time it'll take developing SSB4, I strongly believe there will be.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

The tablet doesn't even have a control stick. There sure as hell better be more options. With all the time it'll take developing SSB4, I strongly believe there will be.

Since you can only use 1 tablet per system, I highly doubt it will be the only option

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

The tablet doesn't even have a control stick. There sure as hell better be more options. With all the time it'll take developing SSB4, I strongly believe there will be.

It has something better a Circle pad with textures.

Edit : Guys I'm not implementing that it's the only way to play but I'm just saying you'll never know how good the new controller until you grab it in your hand and play with it.

 

[Arcadenik]

So, I just started playing Kirby Super Star on the Virtual Console for the first time... I must say I really, really like the game. It has that Smash Bros. vibe going... no surprise there. But I was surprised to discover secret origins of some characters' moves. Here are some examples I can think of right now:

- R.O.B.'s Up+B was Jet Kirby's double jump.
- Ice Climbers' Side+B was Hammer Kirby's running attack.
- Meta Knight's Up+B was Wing Kirby's aerial attacks.
- Ness's Smash Up+A and Smash Down+A was Yo-Yo Kirby's attacks.

It was like... wow! Sakurai did not just make up moves for characters who didn't fight very often or had little moveset potential... he recycled his ideas from Kirby games into these characters!

 

[Llumys]

If only Dinosaur Planet never became StarFox Adventures...

 

[OmegaXXII]

I'm beginning to wonder how much of a chance Xenoblade will have in terms of being a new series we see in the next Smash? It appears we are going to see Xenoblade localized, rumours are stating by September. If Sakurai was considering Saki Amamiya prior Star Successor, than why wouldn't Sakurai take a look at this series? It is a Nintendo IP that is doing fairly well in Japan and has some kind of following in the West. Would Shulk be such a surprising pick?

Looks like an interesting sword user.

IMO Cloud would be better (but ain't happening)

Even though I'm up for sword users, I think adding a bit too many of them would make the characters seem and feel a bit generic, even if that character happens to be unique. Like Psycho mentioned they would also feel "cliched" due to their sword nature.

Sword fighters are good and all but you have to keep the number of them low otherwise it will end up looking like Soul Calibur which is not the point of smash.

Sword fighter in previous installments:

Ike
Marth
Roy
Link
Young Link
WW Link

Ganondorf isn't considered due to the fact of being cloned, but if he were to get another moveset altogether it "might" be another sword user among smash, I'm not saying he would totally have a sword but still.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

So, I just started playing Kirby Super Star on the Virtual Console for the first time... I must say I really, really like the game. It has that Smash Bros. vibe going... no surprise there. But I was surprised to discover secret origins of some characters' moves. Here are some examples I can think of right now:

- R.O.B.'s Up+B was Jet Kirby's double jump.
- Ice Climbers' Side+B was Hammer Kirby's running attack.
- Meta Knight's Up+B was Wing Kirby's aerial attacks.
- Ness's Smash Up+A and Smash Down+A was Yo-Yo Kirby's attacks.

It was like... wow! Sakurai did not just make up moves for characters who didn't fight very often or had little moveset potential... he recycled his ideas from Kirby games into these characters!

Really ?

I'm beginning to lose faith in Sakurai....

 

[SixWingedAsura]

If only Dinosaur Planet never became StarFox Adventures...

Professor Layton? Is you high?

 

[Sephy95]

So, I just started playing Kirby Super Star on the Virtual Console for the first time... I must say I really, really like the game. It has that Smash Bros. vibe going... no surprise there. But I was surprised to discover secret origins of some characters' moves. Here are some examples I can think of right now:

- R.O.B.'s Up+B was Jet Kirby's double jump.
- Ice Climbers' Side+B was Hammer Kirby's running attack.
- Meta Knight's Up+B was Wing Kirby's aerial attacks.
- Ness's Smash Up+A and Smash Down+A was Yo-Yo Kirby's attacks.

It was like... wow! Sakurai did not just make up moves for characters who didn't fight very often or had little moveset potential... he recycled his ideas from Kirby games into these characters!

Think thats better said in a different thread.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Looks like an interesting sword user.

IMO Cloud would be better (but ain't happening)

Even though I'm up for sword users, I think adding a bit too many of them would make the characters seem and feel a bit generic, even if that character happens to be unique. Like Psycho mentioned they would also feel "cliched" due to their sword nature.

Sword fighters are good and all but you have to keep the number of them low otherwise it will end up looking like Soul Calibur which is not the point of smash.

Sword fighter in previous installments:

Ike
Marth
Roy
Link
Young Link
WW Link

Ganondorf isn't considered due to the fact of being cloned, but if he were to get another moveset altogether it "might" be another sword user among smash, I'm not saying he would totally have a sword but still.

actually the opposite is the thing that will make it a Soul Calibur clone having different weapons.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Haha, Kirby being bad by his creator AKA the creator of Smash....