OmegaXXII
Fire Emblem Lord/ Trophy Hunter
Sure why not, heck this would be a perfect blend of moves for him, he's already a powerful wizard, not to mention a bad*** swordman, why not implement both.
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Gallowglass
Smash Lord
Don't forget Ganondorf was also the king of thieves.
Thino
Smash Master
nah serious has so much potential for a moveset different than falcon : electric balls , magic cape , phantom ganon and even a HORSE
To bring a topic Chronobound has on Gamefaqs here:
Finally, why not cut any character? I could see Lucario/Toon Link being cut at the very least.
First of all, 45 character slots would mean there were 10 newcomers if nobody was cut. I'd add Takumaru (that list lacks retro choices) and would argue another retro character over Lip. I think Lip is very unlikely due to her weapon being an item (greatly limiting her moveset potential) and her lack of appearances since Brawl released.
Finally, why not cut any character? I could see Lucario/Toon Link being cut at the very least.
OmegaXXII
Fire Emblem Lord/ Trophy Hunter
Lucario needs to be replaced by Mewtwo/Zoroark, toon link replaced by OOT 3DS Young Link and Lip should make a cameo of some sort, I don't know why I can't see her coming as a playable character.
EDIT:I can't see myself ever seeing more than 48 characters on the roster, some would either have to be replaced in the series or just cut out completly in order to make room for new ones
EDIT:I can't see myself ever seeing more than 48 characters on the roster, some would either have to be replaced in the series or just cut out completly in order to make room for new ones
PG-13
Smash Cadet
Toon link will probably be replaced by a character that is a very popular Zelda character, maybe Young Link will return and maybe we may get a curveball like Skull Kid or something.
And in my opinion Lucario is highly likely to be replaced by Victini or Zoroark.
And in my opinion Lucario is highly likely to be replaced by Victini or Zoroark.
Onomanic
Heaven Piercer
Roy's our boy, Roy's our boy!
Seriously, I could see him and the rest of the cut cast from Melee as DLC pack. It'd be great =D
Seriously, I could see him and the rest of the cut cast from Melee as DLC pack. It'd be great =D
Everyone thinks we are losing toon link or lucario, but why not wolf or even one of those earthbound kids?
Also I'm skeptical of Snake returning, but Sonic will be back with at the very least Shadow at his side. Sega thinks he sooo cool.
Also I'm skeptical of Snake returning, but Sonic will be back with at the very least Shadow at his side. Sega thinks he sooo cool.
PG-13
Smash Cadet
OOT 3DS Link probably won't make it in because SSB4 won't come out until a year or 2 after OoT 3D.Lucario needs to be replaced by Mewtwo/Zoroark, toon link replaced by OOT 3DS Young Link and Lip should make a cameo of some sort, I don't know why I can't see her coming as a playable character
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
So SSB4's development starts in October... good. That gives them four months to draw up "rough drafts" and make preparations.
As to Toon Link, I don't think he'll be leaving because he has 5 games under his belt and has been the main mascot of the portable Zelda games since 2003.
As to Snake, Snake Eater is coming out for the 3DS and there are rumblings that MGS5 will too. This along with how Sakurai and Kojima are still best friends bodes well for him.
As to Toon Link, I don't think he'll be leaving because he has 5 games under his belt and has been the main mascot of the portable Zelda games since 2003.
As to Snake, Snake Eater is coming out for the 3DS and there are rumblings that MGS5 will too. This along with how Sakurai and Kojima are still best friends bodes well for him.
chillbologna
Smash Rookie
Lucario is nice, but it seems likely that they'd replace him with some other pokemon...
&I hope they get rid of the clones. I know falco/fox/wolf aren't as similiar as link/young link or captain falcon/ganon...but some more original movesets would be nice.
&I hope they get rid of the clones. I know falco/fox/wolf aren't as similiar as link/young link or captain falcon/ganon...but some more original movesets would be nice.
PG-13
Smash Cadet
If Sonic returns, snake returns.Everyone thinks we are losing toon link or lucario, but why not wolf or even one of those earthbound kids?
Also I'm skeptical of Snake returning, but Sonic will be back with at the very least Shadow at his side. Sega thinks he sooo cool.
If Shadow would be included, that would be cool, but there would need to be a new MGS rep. To keep 3rd parties even.
Wolf has a major appearance in the upcoming Starfox 3DS, is integral to the series, is not a clone of anybody, and it wouldn't make much sense to introduce him and then immediately cut him (although that happened to Mewtwo, it was because he was becoming less and less relevant to the series)Everyone thinks we are losing toon link or lucario, but why not wolf or even one of those earthbound kids?
Also I'm skeptical of Snake returning, but Sonic will be back with at the very least Shadow at his side. Sega thinks he sooo cool.
Ness will stay (Original 12) and I guess Lucas could be cut, I just can't really see it.
PG-13
Smash Cadet
Lucas is becoming less relevant like Mewtwo. I can see him being cut.
Starphoenix
How Long Have I Been Asleep?
Which means they will have their roster plans locked within the next six months to a year. So lets start looking at the currently relevant characters.
OmegaXXII
Fire Emblem Lord/ Trophy Hunter
In all honesty, I'm expecting ONLY Sonic to make his return, why? It's simple really, as much popularity he's been having with Nintendo as of late, he is still a considered 3rd party material, and Smash is considered Nintendo only, so the possibility of getting Sonic back is already a bit doubtful, even worse for a 2nd rep for his series.GameFreaking said:... but why not wolf or even one of those earthbound kids?
Also I'm skeptical of Snake returning, but Sonic will be back with at the very least Shadow at his side. Sega thinks he sooo cool.
But I do agree with Snake getting axed, I doubt Kojima would want him to be in smash as badly as he did before.
I'm also pretty sure that either Ness or Lucas will end up getting axed as well, in this case it will most likely be Lucas, seeing that Ness has pretty much represented the Earthbound series since SSB64.
Gallowglass
Smash Lord
Why do people keep talking about Toon Link v. Young Link? I mean it's just the character's looks. It's like argueing OOT Link with TP Link. Kid Link is in Smash because a lot of games revolves around Link being a kid and is more iconic then adult Link. Whether he's cell shaded or OOT doesn't matter he will still have same moves and play style either way.
Thrillhouse-vh.
Smash Hero
Because unlike Lucario Lucas and Ness don't suck
I think if either earthbound kid leaves, it's ness. But with the potential roster exceeding 40, I would be very surprised if they took him out.
As for wolf, he is as much of a clone as falco is, just a slight variation of his moveset. But he is pretty popular. So we will see.
As for wolf, he is as much of a clone as falco is, just a slight variation of his moveset. But he is pretty popular. So we will see.
Starphoenix
How Long Have I Been Asleep?
I could support it.
1. Paper Mario
2. Ridley
3. Zoroark
4. Mewtwo
5. Medusa
6. Little Mac
7. Lip
8. Isaac
9. Mega Man
10. Slime
There is no reason to simply cut characters, expecially when you have very little characters to replace them.
Actually, Wolf isn't a clone in the slightest.I think if either earthbound kid leaves, it's ness. But with the potential roster exceeding 40, I would be very surprised if they took him out.
As for wolf, he is as much of a clone as falco is, just a slight variation of his moveset. But he is pretty popular. So we will see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_MHoi6lewo
chillbologna
Smash Rookie
Anyone thought of epic yarn kirby? Could be interesting to play as..
OmegaXXII
Fire Emblem Lord/ Trophy Hunter
I agree with Falco being a clone, it's been shown ever since Melee.As for wolf, he is as much of a clone as falco is, just a slight variation of his moveset. But he is pretty popular. So we will see.
But Wolf??!!
Man, this antagonist has a lot going on for him, if Sora makes some more adjustments to his specials, he would definetly be unique in his own way, sure maybe one or two moves could remain the same, but it's not out of the question.
Starphoenix
How Long Have I Been Asleep?
Wolf barely justifies as a clone; change his specials around, give him some of the other weaponry found in Assault and a new final smash. Completely different character, the only similarity would be the fact they are both canines...
If anyone is the clone here it is Falco sadly. Even than he was changed quite a bit in Brawl.
Gallowglass
Smash Lord
Even though Falco is a clone he does play differently then Fox. He runs slower but jumps higher. His blaster has a lower rate of fire but has knock back. Not to mention his reflector ability is different. They fly the same Arwings and they work together a lot so it makes sense they would be similar in style. I mean what do you want Falco to have? I think the only thing they need to change in Falco and Wolf is their final smash.
OmegaXXII
Fire Emblem Lord/ Trophy Hunter
Because Y.Link looks more realistIc and serious lol...
Personally for that reason alone Y.Link would be of choice, unless WW Link had a slighter variation of moves, then I wouldn't see a reason to keep him out instead if Y.Link.
Starphoenix
How Long Have I Been Asleep?
Fox, Falco, and Wolf is Nintendo's version of Ryu, Ken, and Akuma. If we need a Dan they can add Slippy...
Gallowglass
Smash Lord
LOL! Good one.
OmegaXXII
Fire Emblem Lord/ Trophy Hunter
This isn't Street Fighter.
I still can't believe Sakurai might take a Capcom character into consideration, it's true.
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I know, man, Smash has suffered from a serious lack of Rad Spencer.This isn't Street Fighter.
I still can't believe Sakurai might take a Capcom character into consideration, it's true.
Seriously, Mega Man and Ryu. I'm calling it.
Starphoenix
How Long Have I Been Asleep?
I know, I'm amazed he even answered it. See what I gather from him is he isn't necessarily anti-third parties, it is the implementation of them that is difficult to deal with. Getting them to fit into the "Nintendo package" and trying to adequately represent that characters series in it's entirety. You have to deal with a lot of expectations and material from fans and another company (even if the other company is the one developing and implementing said character). That is understandable to me and is more daunting than I'm sure many think about. If Snake and Sonic return I doubt they need do much except copy the assets they already have, further detail their models, and add a couple new tracks. So if they wanted too they could add two, new, third party characters at max.This isn't Street Fighter.
I still can't believe Sakurai might take a Capcom character into consideration, it's true.
L-a-t-e-r-a-l-u-s
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Why would nintendo suddenly cut a character that has been with the series since the first game ...? They wouldn't.I think if either earthbound kid leaves, it's ness. But with the potential roster exceeding 40, I would be very surprised if they took him out.
As for wolf, he is as much of a clone as falco is, just a slight variation of his moveset. But he is pretty popular. So we will see.
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
Well, let's see how things turned out with Brawl. It's development started in October 2005. What games were relevant at the time for each character?
(Character:latest major game at start of development:release date of game)
*- in development
** All release dates are the Japanese release dates
Mario: New Super Mario Bros*: May 2006
Luigi: New Super Mario Bros*: May 2006
Peach: New Super Mario Bros*: May 2006
Bowser: New Super Mario Bros*: May 2006
Donkey Kong: DK King of Swing: May 2005
Diddy Kong: DK King of Swing: May 2005
Yoshi: Yoshi Island DS*: November 2006
Wario: Wario Ware Touched: December 2004
Link: Twilight Princess*: November 2006
Zelda: Twilight Princess*: November 2006
Shiek: Ocarina of Time: November 1998
Ganondorf: Twilight Princess*: November 2006
Toon Link: Phantom Hourglass*: June 2007
Samus: Metroid Prime Hunters*: March 2006
Zero Suit Samus: Metroid Zero Mission: February 2004
Pit: Kid Icarus: December 1986/August 2004 (rerelease)
Ice Climbers : Ice Climber: January 1985/August 2004 (rerelease)
ROB: Mario Kart DS*: November 2005
Kirby: Kirby Canvas Curse: March 2005
Metaknight: Kirby Canvas Curse: March 2005
King Dedede: Kirby Canvas Curse: March 2005
Olimar: Pikmin 2: April 2004
Fox: Star Fox Command*: August 2006
Falco: Star Fox Command*: August 2006
Wolf: Star Fox Command*: August 2006
Captain Falcon: F-Zero Climax: October 2004
Pikachu: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl*: September 2006
Pokemon Trainer: Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green: January 2004
Lucario: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl*: September 2006
Jigglypuff: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl*: September 2006
Marth: Fire Emblem Monshou no Nazo: 1994
Ike: Fire Emblem Path of Radiance: April 2005
Ness: Earthbound: August 1994
Lucas: Mother 3*: April 2006
Mr. Game and Watch: Game and Watch Gallery 4: October 2002
Snake: Metal Gear Solid 4*: June 2008
Sonic: Sonic and the Secret Rings: February 2007 *Sakurai says that he wasn't added until the summer of 2007*
Bleh... I'll write up where all these characters stand now later today... I need to take a break...
kackamee
Smash Master
Honestly I'm expecting them to leave Earthbound alone. If they did anything with them, the first thing I'd suspect is that they add in Claus.
And I also greatly hope they add in Character specific Break the Targets again. It'd be cool if they kept the stages that they can all compete on also, but character specific is just soo much fun. Board the Platforms was also great. They should have co-op board the platforms of some sort. More minigames=
And I also greatly hope they add in Character specific Break the Targets again. It'd be cool if they kept the stages that they can all compete on also, but character specific is just soo much fun. Board the Platforms was also great. They should have co-op board the platforms of some sort. More minigames=
OmegaXXII
Fire Emblem Lord/ Trophy Hunter
Well if that's the case, then I wouldn't see why Sonic wouldn't be included, as for Snake, it would solely depend if Kojima wants him in or not, as you said all the legal rights are there, it only depends whether the developer wants in or out.
As for more third parties, I can pretty much say it'll be either Capcom or Square, which in both cases, have to go through the important procedures once again.
@Sonic the Baron: yes, we definetly need good ol' Ryu from SSFIV or original Megaman, I wouldn't mind Simon Belmont as a possibility as well.
daAZNSensation
Smash Cadet
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im hoping to see midna and wolf link. toon link and ww link could be alternate costumes for link.
as for targets, we should combine the idea. each character would have their own (melee) and each would have 3 different maps to represent the difficulty (brawl). good idea?
as for targets, we should combine the idea. each character would have their own (melee) and each would have 3 different maps to represent the difficulty (brawl). good idea?
Well here is a video of him in action. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUPaB0zizoI
IMO he is the definition of a WTF retro character.
EDIT: Another interesting choice for a WTF character. http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Prince_of_Sablé Just scrolling down to classic characters bring up a lot of these!
OmegaXXII
Fire Emblem Lord/ Trophy Hunter
In theory it's an awesome idea, on a paper it looks good, but the final product would take ALOT of development, which could easily be used in other areas of interest instead like stage hazards, characters, modes, etc......as for targets, we should combine the idea. each character would have their own (melee) and each would have 3 different maps to represent the difficulty (brawl). good idea?
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
They should just make it easier on themselves and have an option with the stage builder that allows you to custom make break the targets/board the platforms stages and then, like the stages, allow you to exchange them online.
OmegaXXII
Fire Emblem Lord/ Trophy Hunter
Yes, way more customizations options would definetly makes Smash bros good for the better.
I'm still wondering about character customization options that Iwata mentioned between the 3DS and Wii-U.
I'm still wondering about character customization options that Iwata mentioned between the 3DS and Wii-U.
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