New Smash Bros for WiiU

[OmegaXXII]

I thought it was "hopping"... ah well time to go home.

Star, what about mondays?

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!!!

What was that all about?!!!

 

[nLiM8d]

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[OmegaXXII]

Lol..and I thought Brood Ryu was a girl in one of those pictures Star posted as well..I'm so lame. <_<

EDIT: I can't wait for Kuma to discuss such mechanics and such, I have to show him my moveset as well.

 

[nLiM8d]

Edited by xeGO.

 

[OmegaXXII]

You played Iblis? Dawg are you good in Smash? Do you ever play online yo! Tourneys?

 

[nLiM8d]

Edited by xeGO.

 

[Deleted member]

Custommizable music is what i've always supported, I even came up with such an idea, they should definetly at least give us an option fir such a feature, it's not really hard to convert the files, plug-in and play, it's that simple!

Customizable music would be amazing indeed. Very much enjoyed such feature in GT5.

First mistake, you hoped.

Obvious. Then again, I'm not that type of person who expects the absolute worst for the character roster (Your expectation goes to show that more characters do not make a good roster, it's the character itself that makes the roster good, hence why I say that a 37 slot roster can still be good whereas if your expectation was merely fulfilled, I would be very unhappy with the final result).

 

[OmegaXXII]

@nLiM: Yo, you don't use a gamecube controller? that is so weird, everybody I know cries about one if one isn't in their possesion when it comes to playing Smash competitably, props to you for doing your own thing, uniqueness is way too cool.

 

[nLiM8d]

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[OmegaXXII]

That's a nice scheme you utilize there, anywho, shouldn't you upgrade your recording device? Iblis suggested a good one the other day, it's produces nice quality, but it isn't 1080p though.

You have recorder vids? Let's see em!

 

[nLiM8d]

Edited by xeGO.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Well, there goes my hope for DLC.

Actually, that article is old and incorrect. Iwata himself along with Miyamoto stated that Nintendo is interested in DLC for its own games, but it would always be high-quality DLC such as new stages and whatnot to extend the life of its own games. They're not going to do "low-quality content" such as unlock keys and stat boosters, fearing that it would be detrimental to its relationship with Nintendo's customers.

Here is a link, or you can just Google it: http://m.examiner.com/examiner/pm_60839/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=oswGTJZY

Smash Bros. DLC is more likely than not, my fellow Smashers!

First post here, too.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Actually, that article is old and incorrect. Iwata himself along with Miyamoto stated that Nintendo is interested in DLC for its own games, but it would always be high-quality DLC such as new stages and whatnot to extend the life of its own games. They're not going to do "low-quality content" such as unlock keys and stat boosters, fearing that it would be detrimental to its.

Here is a link, or you can just Google it: http://m.examiner.com/examiner/pm_60839/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=oswGTJZY

Smash Bros. DLC is more likely than not, my fellow Smashers!

@Starphoenix: So Star, what do you think of this? Do you see the possibility now!!??

 

[Starphoenix]

@nLiM: Yo, you don't use a gamecube controller? that is so weird, everybody I know cries about one if one isn't in their possesion when it comes to playing Smash competitably, props to you for doing your own thing, uniqueness is way too cool.

I use the Classic Controller. Works for me.

Also no, Omega. I still feel anyone expecting comprehensive DLC for Smash Bros. is setting themselves up for disappointment.

 

[nLiM8d]

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[OmegaXXII]

Hmm.. That much I will agree with, maybe being a bit pessimestic would help ease any dissappointment that Sakurai might present, perhaps being hopeful is not the best way to look at things, in the end I'd rather end up being surprised and excited rather than dissapointed and torn apart.

@nLiM: do it homie, I'm waiting for for ya!

 

[Le vieux lapin]

Wow I just found this thread. I was excited about the new SSB until I read the first few posts.
I'm not gonna get my hopes up. This game is gonna be a quick-buck-nothing-burger just to show off the Wii U and 3DS.
And NO gamecube controllers? WTH.

 

[Starphoenix]

Please its not like we think they're just going to send us messages and call it DLC. They've done stages before, so I don't think they'd give us too much beyond that.

On a side note, I've gotten my video Quality down, so I'll be uploading. For the first time in years.

You know what I mean N. I've already said what I expect. Yes stages are a possibility, but whether they are "stages" or custom stages I'm not sure. I see stage builder being improved.

But characters are not going to happen, I will tell you that right now.

 

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Based on all the recent articles, I do think that Nintendo will at the very least expand a bit more with content beyond the custom stages and photos.

As for true DLC, we'll have to wait, and who knows Nintendo may surprise us yet again, remember E3 last year? But either way, Star's probably right that we shouldn't count on Nintendo moving towards DLC or at least how Capcom handles DLC.

 

[nLiM8d]

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[OmegaXXII]

Basically anything but characters I'm assuming, am I right?

I pretty much see alt. costumes and such to be included, as well as parts for building a customizable stage.

 

[Le vieux lapin]

Nintendo's never put out good DLC.
They have no experience in it.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Hence they might screw up, but I do not believe it will be with online gameplay, considering how god awful the Wii online was for Brawl, I'm sure somebody noticed it, maybe Sakurai and team will at least try to expand on the idea of having a better online experience, hopefully this is true since they at least have experience when it comes to online, DLC? Not so much as of now.

 

[nLiM8d]

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[Big-Cat]

Yo, oSo- that's a pretty vague request, do you think you could be a little more specific? I mean, I do go into depth when responding, so out of paragraphs of text I can't be sure which parts are unclear to you.

Maybe you could just reask me the questions. I'm too lazy to go dig them up amongst the derp.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Agreed, Mario Kart Wii's online was near perfect, why couldn't Smash 4 do it as well, honestly it would be such a shame if a game from it's predessesor had better online than Smash 4, really though.

 

[nLiM8d]

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[Tommy Pickles]

The Marble from Marble Madness

 

[OmegaXXII]

Probably so, but it's still inexcusable why Brawl turned out the way it did when in fact MKWii was superior in terms of online, no! I can't cut it any slack I'm sorry.

 

[Le vieux lapin]

We should all ( like everyone on the boards ) mass email Nintendo and tell them what to avoid.
The game is meant for US after all.

 

[The Good Doctor]

I've just realized how much I hate the idea of a Smash 4.
Brawl was just a huge let down for me, checking the Dojo every night for a simple update just to have my dedication to the franchise slap me with a trout.

I will not support this series a single bit, unless I play a demo and enjoy it.

Also Miis.....no ****ing thank you....

 

[OmegaXXII]

We should all ( like everyone on the boards ) mass email Nintendo and tell them what to avoid.
The game is meant for US after all.

Actually we do have something like, well sorta, check it out below:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=306540

People should really contribute some ideas here, it should be expanded!!

 

[Big-Cat]

1. There's no real cost for perfect shielding UNLESS the opponent delays an attack.

True, I'll add that both opponents have little to no compromise in their stance, usually the goal is to gain ground, but that usually isn't the result here. Perfect shields also make it easy to downplay the importance of projectiles and/or their mind games if all you have to do is time your shields right (thinks of samus' super missile at 150%). However I can't say I have really contributed much to your concept. So go for it.

2. There is more risk and reward involved with alpha counters.

Anything that promotes rewarding one's efforts is okay by me.

3. Alpha counters can change the momentum of a fight in the blink of an eye, at least in a more exciting way.

Would you say that the complaint against defensive play could be solved by this?
I mean, in smash recovery is mostly about spacing. Getting your footing can be easily read as stalling even though you are trying to survive. That aside, I love to see the tides turn for players that aim to work for it.

4. Alpha counters can be countered. Not so much for perfect shielding.

All I can say for the latter is LOL at the idea of projectiles bouncing back and fourth. In collegiate style wrestling, the goal of reversals is that you keep doing it until you can lock it down: that takes effort and reading skill.

5. In my opinion, alpha counters are more accessible and its importance can be seen from a casual standpoint.

In other words they are practical. Sure

1. I think you had a good idea what I was going at. I have nothing to say more on this one.
2. Good, especially when it rewards a good read.
3. If you left the shield as strong as it is in Brawl, it makes defensive play even stronger. I think shield stun would have to be higher on attacks to make alpha counters not broken.
4. Sounds like a rock paper scissors match until someone gets tired.
5. Practical isn't the right word here, just better understood.

 

[Le vieux lapin]

Actually we do have something like, well sorta, check it out below:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=306540

People should really contribute some ideas here, it should be expanded!!

Dude thanks for showing this to me, I would have never found it meself.

 

[nLiM8d]

Edited by xeGO.

 

[Big-Cat]

I never really thought the Brawl Sheilds gave way at all. Fully charged smash attacks should cause the shield to drop to 25% at the most, making it a risk to brace attacks like these.

IDK, I've been thinking the shields should be able to retain more damage.

That being said, perhaps the strength of an opponent's attack (when braced) should up the meter

Maybe, maybe not. Different games do it differently.

-An of course, the closer an opponent's attack the more accessible a counter would be. Attacks should to make decent enough contact or else the counter might end up missing.
-Notice how smash attacks end up putting space between the characters when that attack is blocked, this makes timing/reading crucial for a counter. Since the aggressor has the momentum most of the time, they aim to stay on the aggressive path, so you're in luck.

So you're saying that spacing is a factor when deciding pressure and alpha counters? OK.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

It may be a joke, but I'm willing to bet this is the closest we are going to get to a confirmation Prof. Layton is going to be in smash

EDIT: OMG it may be a joke, but that's awesome Geno was mentioned

 

[OmegaXXII]

Lol..does anybody know if that Level-5 Twitter was a fake? a joke?

 

[Starphoenix]

It may be a joke, but I'm willing to bet this is the closest we are going to get to a confirmation Prof. Layton is going to be in smash

EDIT: OMG it may be a joke, but that's awesome Geno was mentioned

Too bad it wasn't an official Twitter account.

Also, nLIM8d, that signature is hilarious. Who knew I was starting something with Project: Fabulous? lol

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Too bad it wasn't an official Twitter account.

Also, nLIM8d, that signature is hilarious. Who knew I was starting something with Project: Fabulous? lol

Eh, whatever. IGN thinks it's by a twitter account set to advertise the upcoming Layton game.

I still think it's neat