New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I'm against Servine....sorry but I prefer having Snivy....

Very well then. Let's just end this discussion here, since we have our own personal opinions.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Pokemon Trainer for SSB4 will have 6 pokemons

oh god the possibilities

You mean the series right?, not the actual Pokemon Trainer...

Speaking of trainers here's a suggestion I posted earlier

Giovanni:works like PT, also as 3 interchangeable Pokemon, uses Persian, Nidoking, Rhydon/Machamp

God I want Mewtwo so bad!!

 

[Thino]

lets talk now about Brawl characters that will not be in the next Smash

I start : Lucario

You mean the series right?, not the actual Pokemon Trainer...

Speaking of trainers here's a suggestion I posted earlier

Giovanni:works like PT, also as 3 interchangeable Pokemon, uses Persian, Nidoking, Rhydon/Machamp

God I want Mewtwo so bad!!

yes the series

 

[OmegaXXII]

lets talk now about Brawl characters that will not be in the next Smash

I start : Lucario

yes the series

How about talking about characters that ARE going to be included instead such as Mewtwo.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Very well then. Let's just end this discussion here, since we have our own personal opinions.

Well, I don't mind but just one Small bit of info...it seems there seems to be a secret influence in the Design of those 3 Pokemon final stages...

Samurott:

=

Link

Emboar :

=

Ganon:

Serperior:

=

Zelda:

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

@post #1605: I never did think about those references. Though the Zelda Serperior comparison is kind of odd.

 

[ETWIST51294]

lets talk now about Brawl characters that will not be in the next Smash

I start : Lucario

We already di but why not. Not much to talk about anyways.

Characters that have a chance of being out

Lucario
ROB
Toon Link
Lucas
Ike
PT
Jiggs (not likely)

ands that's about it I think.

Toon Link first, then Lucario. I hate Lucario but he's not a luigi-fied clone but a character in his own.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

@post #1605: I never did think about those references. Though the Zelda Serperior comparison is kind of odd.

Well in the game Dakenki (Samurott) is know for his courage (Link,Triforce), Emboar is know for his powerful attack which will implement Power (Ganon,Triforce) and Serperior is pretty fast and defensive which implement Wisdom (Zelda,Triforce).

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Well in the game Dakenki (Samurott) is know for his courage (Link,Triforce), Emboar is know for his powerful attack which will implement Power (Ganon,Triforce) and Serperior is pretty fast and defensive which implement Wisdom (Zelda,Triforce).

Ironically, Zelda is a slow mover in the Smash Bros. series. I guess in a way, Serperior is more like Sheik, since both are not heavy hitters (Serperior's offensive base stats are 75 each, which is rather low), and have good speed.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

We already di but why not. Not much to talk about anyways.

Characters that have a chance of being out

Lucario
ROB
Toon Link
Lucas
Ike
PT
Jiggs (not likely)

ands that's about it I think.

Toon Link first, then Lucario. I hate Lucario but he's not a luigi-fied clone but a character in his own.

What with the hate on Lucario and Ike....did you ever consider that maybe there is no character that is leaving ? and the character who left SSB were unlockable characters and Ike is a starter which means he is unlikely to be kicked... while you guys comparing Mewtwo to Lucario , do you know that Mewtwo shadow ball isn't Mewtwo signature move while Lucario has Aura Sphere which is only learn able by Lucario and some Legendary Pokemon.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Ironically, Zelda is a slow mover in the Smash Bros. series. I guess in a way, Serperior is more like Sheik, since both are not heavy hitters (Serperior's offensive base stats are 75 each, which is rather low), and have good speed.

Well you got the point and btw don't base characters speed from in-game and brawl Ike is a fast unit in Fire Emblem....and look at him in brawl.

 

[OmegaXXII]

We already di but why not. Not much to talk about anyways.

Characters that have a chance of being out

Lucario
ROB
Toon Link
Lucas
Ike
PT
Jiggs (not likely)

ands that's about it I think.

I agree with this except for Ike, how is he getting the boot? He's had two recent games already plus I doubt Sora would simply forget about his existence with the latest FE, if anything, another FE character would be added instead, and yes from the current Radiant Dawn from Wii.

Jiggs needs to get an updated moveset, her moves are to generic.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

I agree with this except for Ike, how is he getting the boot? He's had two recent games already plus I doubt Sora would simply forget about his existence with the latest FE, if anything, another FE character would be added instead, and yes from the current Radiant Dawn from Wii.

Jiggs needs to get an updated moveset, her moves are to generic.

To add on the talk my fellow FE fan said....Please don't say Marth games are the latest because they are just some remakes....which will let Marth have a design overhaul only.

Look of how beastly Black Knight killed end boss with one hit...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrmuATvklKA

 

[Thino]

What with the hate on Lucario and Ike....did you ever consider that maybe there is no character that is leaving ? and the character who left SSB were unlockable characters and Ike is a starter which means he is unlikely to be kicked... while you guys comparing Mewtwo to Lucario , do you know that Mewtwo shadow ball isn't Mewtwo signature move while Lucario has Aura Sphere which is only learn able by Lucario and some Legendary Pokemon.

its not out of hate , more like according to the lastest installments of their respective franchise

expect for Ike

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

its not out of hate , more like according to the lastest installments of their respective franchise

expect for Ike

Well I expect Ike to have an updated design...you can't call removing characters as a tradition now we are getting 2 installment of SSB was that expected... ? No it wasn't untill we see a pattern we can be assured there going to be a boot involved.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Well you got the point and btw don't base characters speed from in-game and brawl Ike is a fast unit in Fire Emblem....and look at him in brawl.

You do have a point there, especially when Mewtwo, Pichu, and Charizard are taken into account.

Of course, Charizard is only a slow walker; when it dashes, it rivals Pikachu's running speed.

 

[OmegaXXII]

To add on the talk my fellow FE fan said....Please don't say Marth games are the latest because they are just some remakes....which will let Marth have a design overhaul only.

Look of how beastly Black Knight killed end boss with one hit...

Agreed!!

Those Black Knight moves are awesome! Those could easily be implemented as his special.

And yes an updated design would also work in favor, two thumbs up.

 

[Conviction]

Speaking of FE why don't we just tap into the different weapons they have in it?

Sothe would be pretty nice, also considering he uses a dagger.

 

[Thino]

Well I expect Ike to have an updated design...you can't call removing characters as a tradition now we are getting 2 installment of SSB was that expected... ? No it wasn't untill we see a pattern we can be assured there going to be a boot involved.

I typo'd except into expect but somehow your reply still made sense , but yea right now we're kinda focusing our speculation based of only what happened from SSB to Melee and from Melee to Brawl

thats why I start with the 6 pokemons thing because I dont doubt that Sakurai/Sora Project have that kind of unexpected surprises like that because that happened so much back in the Brawl roster predictions days

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Speaking of FE why don't we just tap into the different weapons they have in it?

Sothe would be pretty nice, also considering he uses a dagger.

BTW Iblis where are you from ?

On topic: SSB isn't about weapons and character were chosen for their character sake not weapon sake.....

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

What with the hate on Lucario and Ike....did you ever consider that maybe there is no character that is leaving ? and the character who left SSB were unlockable characters and Ike is a starter which means he is unlikely to be kicked... while you guys comparing Mewtwo to Lucario , do you know that Mewtwo shadow ball isn't Mewtwo signature move while Lucario has Aura Sphere which is only learn able by Lucario and some Legendary Pokemon.

Togekiss also gets Aura Sphere, along with the Mienfoo family.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

I typo'd except into expect but somehow your reply still made sense , but yea right now we're kinda focusing our speculation based of only what happened from SSB to Melee and from Melee to Brawl

thats why I start with the 6 pokemons thing because I dont doubt that Sakurai/Sora Project have that kind of unexpected surprises like that because that happened so much back in the Brawl roster predictions days

I see well what ever we say might affect in certain extent (although I doubt Sakurai reads the American forums )anyways hope everyone remain.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Togekiss also gets Aura Sphere, along with the Mienfoo family.

yea I forgot about this anyways Lucario was the pokemon that Aura sphere was made for .

 

[Conviction]

BTW Iblis where are you from ?

On topic: SSB isn't about weapons and character were chosen for their character sake not weapon sake.....

That's random but I live in GA. Lol like my locatioon says.

I know SSB isn't about that, but think about it. It would add depth and Sothe is an important character in the game he came in and made a supporting appearance in Ike's first game.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

That's random but I live in GA. Lol like my locatioon says.

I know SSB isn't about that, but think about it. It would add depth and Sothe is an important character in the game he came in and made a supporting appearance in Ike's first game.

Well because your name meaning = Satan xD and I'm arabian so I know that.


on-topic: I'm all the way for Sothe don't get me wrong here but I'd rather something like an Antagonist or a Female character.

 

[Conviction]

Oh of course I wouldn't mind see him coming in later in comparison to Black Knight.

and I thought Iblis was Latin, but at least I got the meaning right haha.

 

[Gallowglass]

Yes SSB isn't about weapons but weapons determines fighting style. A swordsmen fights differently then an axemen and a spearmen. Just having a different weapon gives them a unique fighting style.

Also is there any major Fire Emblem characters that uses an Axe and Spear? You could have the FE weapon cycle in smash.

I'm guessing the Devil went down to GA.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Yes SSB isn't about weapons but weapons determines fighting style. A swordsmen fights differently then an axemen and a spearmen. Just having a different weapon gives them a unique fighting style.

Also is there any major Fire Emblem characters that uses an Axe and Spear? You could have the FE weapon cycle in smash.

I think Hector uses an axe, last I've checked.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Oh of course I wouldn't mind see him coming in later in comparison to Black Knight.

and I thought Iblis was Latin, but at least I got the meaning right haha.

Well look at it from my point of view:

Fire Emblem presenters in SSB:

must meet atlesat 3 catagories or 4....

Speed : It's either stays for Marth unless Lyn or Sothe got in and took the speedy title.

Balanced : Ike and Marth.

Heavy hitter : It's either stays for Ike unless an Antagonist like Black Knight or Ashnard got in.

Tag team : I'm thinking Sothe and Micaiah....but TBH that reminds Shiek/Zelda.

 

[Conviction]

Just concerning everybody who keeps saying team characters.

Remember (unless you have some way to fix this) team characters can chaingrab just like Ice Climbers.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Yes SSB isn't about weapons but weapons determines fighting style. A swordsmen fights differently then an axemen and a spearmen. Just having a different weapon gives them a unique fighting style.

Also is there any major Fire Emblem characters that uses an Axe and Spear? You could have the FE weapon cycle in smash.

I'm guessing the Devil went down to GA.

I know what are you saying and approve it but this is not a determining factor on choosing characters and I think Sakurai love swords.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I know what are you saying and approve it but this is not a determining factor on choosing characters and I think Sakurai love swords.

We don't have samurais though. Takamaru is sort of like a samurai, considering the way his sword looks.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

We don't have samurais though. Takamaru is sort of like a samurai, considering the way his sword looks.

Samurais? who mentioned Samurais ? and yes we have a Samurai= Samurai Goroh.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Samurais? who mentioned Samurais ? and yes we have a Samurai= Samurai Goroh.

Maybe I should rephrase that. We don't have a playable samurai yet.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Maybe I should rephrase that. We don't have a playable samurai yet.

Guess so I'd love to see a Samurai xD.

 

[OmegaXXII]

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Also is there any major Fire Emblem characters that uses an Axe and Spear? You could have the FE weapon cycle in smash.

Good question, as far as axe users go it would have to be either Hector or Hawkeye, both good and very fast.

As for Lance users, it has to be Amalia, Cormag, or Gilliam, they all have different style but are powerful and overall easy to use.

As for Smash well they are definetly good suggestions, different weapons = better options with combo possibilities.

But I don't think it matters much since FE is in favor of sword users such as Marth, Black Knight, Roy.

 

[Gallowglass]

I know what are you saying and approve it but this is not a determining factor on choosing characters and I think Sakurai love swords.

You're right about this isn't a determining factor but it would make the gameplay rather interesting.

As for the swords thing I don't think it's Sakurai's fault. If you look nearly any series that has swords then the main protagonist is most likely going to have a sword as well. In both Weastern and Eastern culture the sword has been a symbol of the warrior hero. From King Arthur to Musashi the sword is the main weapon. So when developers make heroes like Link, Marth, Ike, Chrono, Cloud, Loyd Irving, etc... It's most likely they will give them a sword.

 

[majora_787]

Good question, as far as axe users go it would have to be either Hector or Hawkeye, both good and very fast.

As for Lance users, it has to be Amalia, Cormag, or Gilliam, they all have different style but are powerful and overall easy to use.

As for Smash well they are definetly good suggestions, different weapons = better options with combo possibilities.

If we're talkin Fire Emblem, the american release of Blazing Blade, then I dunno. If it's the series, Caeda's most likely the best lance-user at this current time.

But yeah, different weapon users adds variety. Whips, projectiles, explosives, lances, whatnot like that? Fun stuff.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Black Knight is rather unlikely.

Spoiler

He may have been Ike's enemy, but his fate was sealed in Radiant Dawn.

 

[Life]

Black Knight is rather unlikely.

Spoiler

He may have been Ike's enemy, but his fate was sealed in Radiant Dawn.

Doesn't stop anything.

Spoiler

We've killed Ganon twice.

Not having new games might be problematic.