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) live with disease and starving and so on is exemplary story telling. Also, the work they did on Zeal is amazing. It's also a really cool feeling knowing you're in the clouds. With many games you know it's just a game, which takes away that feeling a bit. But there are some games, the rare find, where something like this is given to you in full force. The knowing it's a game doesn't take away from it at all in my opinion.
Goku ?This reminded me of the Crono recolors I did last time.
Yep.
I don't think people have forgotten about Crono. I think every fan of him just... gave up.Heh. Seriously though i'd love to see one of those 'forgotten game' characters in SSB4, like Chrono or the boy from secret of evermore. Too bad it's super unlikely though...
When I knew nothing about Sin & Punishment. I looked up a video footage, I looked at the comments. I went to Gamefaqs for a general idea of its reception. Then I went looking around random forums where they mentioned the game.
I said that? I just think Snake is nowadays more fleshed out character with better recent games. MGS4 got pretty much 10/10 across the board while last Contra probably got 3/10. Plus not that many know the names of Contra dudesI'm not sure why you say Contra isn't as iconic. It's WAY too iconic if you ask me. Who hasn't played contra?
I'd only change his UP+B perhaps for.... I don't know... a MISSILE.
Oh, and I also kinda disagree with Bill and Lance being a team.
Think about it.. Both shoot projectiles. One would be troublesome enough, TWO projectile users for the price of one would be overkill.
Sorry I didn't get to respond sooner. I fell asleep.
The last contra games, as far as I know, have been.
This is why I was suggesting for changing the rep, though I'm not sure anyone Sega can compete with Sonic. Well I'd still put Tails in this time for change. Change Snake to Simon or Bill/Lance. And add the 2 new ones (Megaman and Hayabusa if I decide)
I think you should go ahead and do a Paper Mario stage.
No. Only Sonic character I want to see in SSB4 is Tails and even so, I have no qualms not having Tails in Smash. Sonic by himself is enough.
I think it's safe to say that Sakurai is at least considering Ridley's inclusion this time around.
Sadly, I don't see Dark Samus as too likely either. Unless Retro Studios announces a new Metroid game (any type of Metroid game would do) and Sakurai and his team acknowledge that Dark Samus is more than just a copy of Samus, Dark Samus is unlikely at best. The unpopularity of his sub-series in Japan doesn't help either.
Alright, you made your point. As long as Ridley makes it in and the Star Fox series doesn't get a new rep, Metroid will be complete rep-wise.
How about Skytown from Metroid Prime 3 as a stage? That location has tons of potential for a cool stage. StarPhoenix even made a Skytown stage in his stage conception thread.
Interesting idea. Hiding away the "best" or most unique of the songs from each franchise as unique CDs with very low chances of finding.All this music talk reminded me of this idea I had where Mew dropped specific "Legendary CD's" instead of just ones you didn't already have, they would be songs that were more serene, intense, important, or just epic than other songs. I have a list somewhere, let me go find it and I'll edit it in or post it
EDIT: Here it is
"]Beware the Forest Mushrooms - Mario Bros.
Aquatic Ambience - Donkey Kong
Ocarina Medley - The Legend of Zelda
SR388 - Metroid
Eight Melodies ~Vocal~ - MOTHER
Devil's Call In Your Heart - F-ZERO
Music Box - Yoshi
Milky Way Wishes Credits - Kirby
Meteor - Star Fox
Mewtwo Battle - Pokemon
Sweet Sweet Sweet - Sonic the Hedgehog
Can't Say Goodbye to Yesterday - Metal Gear
Obvious pattern is obvious
Thank you for posting the Yoshi's Island tunes as well Fear Factory. They all bring back such great nostalgic memories. I also liked the DKCR remix of Fear Factory - possibly more than the original.Ok, I’ve decided to finally do that music post this computer messed up on last time. I used word so I could save it every so often XD. Anyway, I just wanted to show you a bit of the music I really loved and grew up with andsome of it that I want to be in SSB4(some of it is already in brawl ^^ )
[COLLAPSE=Luco's Music Choices]Map Music
Yoshi’s island is simply an awesome game, and this is a great piece of music. A revolutionary thing at the time, yoshi’s island made it so as you went through the game the map music changed, and built up with multiple layers until the final world.
Story Music Box
I love how the story music box is just slightly out of tune, but it still sounds as beautiful. :D
Final Battle
Ok, for those of you who haven’t played yoshi’s island, firstly I frown on you(j/ks). Secondly, here’s how the jig works. You first storm in to Bowser’s castle, and after choosing the way to get to baby bowser and having multiple encounters with his henchmen, you finally come to a sleeping bowser, who wakes up and decides he doesn’t like you(also he wants Mario), so you two have a lovely little fight where you have to dodge his ground pounding(yes this is where that move comes from for bowser) which causes a small shockwave. After making your own shockwaves you beat baby bowser. Kamek then comes back and exclaims at his wounded master. He gets quite angry, and then uses his magic colourful dust to turn bowser in to the monster you see in the pic in the link. In doing so bowser ruins his own castle, leaving only a few bits of ruin for you to stand on. Then comes the final fight. Bowser himself has very few moves, pretty much throwing rocks at you to wipe away the last bits of castle you stand on, but for the most part he’s slowly coming towards you, getting bigger and bigger, and the only way to keep him back is to shoot eggs at his open mouth. This is why I’ve been scared of him from childhood. Towards the end of the battle, bowser loses it completely, and comes at you full pace, never stopping, and it takes all you can to survive. Yea, I’m still scared of the thought of that monster taking up everything, leaving nothing, void, darkness…. Black… ugh….
But yea he’s awesome and the music’s awesome.
Castle & Fortress
This music has an interesting mood to it, and it’s fun to play to this music when you’re trying to reach a boss
Athletic
Ok this is definitely one of my favourite bits of music of all time. It’s upbeat, it’s ready to go, it’s just generally happy, and really, really, catchy. Original all the way!(although brawl version was good too!)
Flower Garden
Another one of my favourites, and again, upbeat, happy, and really rhythmic and beaty(is that a word?)
Story title
I love how they added the sounds of the sea to this one, and the first part kind of reminds me of call and response (until it’s as if the second person learnt it all and plays it in the second part)
Ok, moving away from Yoshi’s island before I get carried away, I have a few from SMW:
Ok, DKC a bit:
Fear Factory
Fear Factory was pretty intense, and it’s coupled level(also a factory lvl) gave me chills whenever the lights went off. I love it when the music suits the level!
Mine Cart Madness
Mine Cart madness was redone in DKCR, but that version was nowhere near as good.
Snow Mountain
I have memories of going through the thickening snow here. The team did an amazing job on the level, and I think some of you will remember a cheat that just about bypasses half of the level if you deliberately mis-shoot in one of the battles.
Haunted Hall
Haunted Hall was an epic lvl, and so was the music. I was always creeped out by the ghosts that would kill you if you didn’t make it to the checkpoint on time…
Ok there were only a few from DKCR that made it in to my like list, but the ones that did are the ones I love:
Rocket Barrel 1
Here’s number 1 of rocket barrel music. It was really fun to be, say, chased by a Giant bat to this music:”Yes, I love you to but I really need to concent- Aww!” Cue fall music!
Rocket Barrel 2
This is number 2. This, I remember, plays for getting to the final boss, and it’s quite hard, with thigs clamping down on you, and airships that drop things trying to kill you. Fun! Fun!
Fear Factory(DKCR)
Yea I have to admit I liked this version of F.F. too.
Savoury Stu
Yea I got real freaked when stu started dropping big bombs on me. Ooooohhhh….
The Mole Train
Another boss- The Mole train. Really cool effects for this one, and the level was awesome.
Ok Starfox:
Corneria
The 90’s were the golden age of videogames and star fox was another legendary game of the era. Everyone in it spoke strange language, translated only by the com, and one had to brave the dangers to defeat andross. Corneria was your starting point in all 3 ways, but who could resist going through it with red sky?
Space Armada
Slippy actually wants to turn back in this one…. But anyway, this was epic, and I don’t know why people actually WANTED to miss the parts where you went through ships.
Fortuna
I found this level really funky and the music was groovy too!
Ok you should listen to some of the other songs for these. The last 2 songs I’ll leave you with are these:
The day the world revived
The day the world revived. Really slow and beautiful.
Crysta
Crysta is the first town in Terranigma, a game which I recommend to all of you, especially if you like chrono trigger. I dunno, these two games just seem a bit like brother and sister to me. ^^
Oh ok, one more!
Sadness(remastered)
This is a remastered version, but it’s one of the best remastered versions of a song I’ve ever heard, so I’ve put it up here for you to hear. Terrangima did some wonderful tunes…
A continent is born
I whistle this tune over and over whenever it’s in my head, and often I’ll add bits here and there, but the essence of the song stays the same. It’s a beautiful tune, even if it only lasts like 20 seconds.[/COLLAPSE]
Ok, those are the songs I grew up with, and I think you should hear them too just to see which ones you like. I’ll post a Secret of Evermore one somewhere in there as well just for you star
Enjoy!
Yet more awesome music choices. I have to add COLLAPSE tags around your music selections just to preserve them as much as possible in my post without making a wall of words!Lets have some more musical fun my dearies. I'm going to post the top 10 songs that MUST be in the next game! No "if", "ands", or "buts" about it. These are required and not optional under any circumstance!
[COLLAPSE=StarPhoenix's Music Choices]1: Link's Awakening - Ballad of the Windfish (Yay Willrock! By far my favorite OCremix artist, because synthrock is the best!)
Make no mistake, I get the original song is a little slow compared to some of the more intense songs. But I'm not requesting the original, I want my remix! Sakurai has teased us all with lingering fragments of data indicating this song was intended to be placed in the game, but removed for whatever reason. Tough it out next time unknown arranger and give us the goods!
2: Paper Mario - E v e r y S o n g !
Did I really just link every letter with an individual video link? You're darn right I did! Having not had any music from this series is a travesty. You hear me a TRAVESTY!? At this point Paper Mario has become one of the premier Mario brands and will likely stay that way as long as the quality remains. The music is an aspect of that quality, spawning many memorable tunes.
3: Kirby Super Star - Orange Ocean
Heh, kind of surprised Sakurai missed such a gem from his own series. Not sure how that happened but it certainly was a miss not to include it. Would have actually, you know, compliment Halberd...
4: Mario Paint - BGM 1/Gnat Attack
(here are the WarioWare Touched versions of BGM1)
How on earth was ANYTHING from this game not selected? Out of many obscure games this one has by far the catchiest music. These tracks could have easily fit either Flat Zone 2 or Pictochat.
5: Pokémon Red and Blue - Vs. Kanto Champion (Rival)
Poor Blue/Gary (whichever the preference), his song got passed up while we have 3-4 remixes of the same Pokémon tune. There is more to Pokémon than just the main theme Sakurai!
6: Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy Kong's Quest - Crocodile Cacophony
Technically you could say many songs from this game must be in the next game, being the highlight soundtrack from the Donkey Kong Country series. This song in particular just carries that nasty, nitty gritty feel to it. The kind of song that suits a certain reptile...
7: Super Smash Bros. - Metal Mario
Hmmm... You bring back songs from the previous game but fail to highlight one of the best original tracks from the 64 title? Strange... Then again many decisions were strange...
8: The Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past - Hyrule Castle (listen to this orchestrated version and weep)
Was there a REASON this song WASN'T in Brawl? I understand there wasn't a castle but c'mon! This is one of the most legendary tunes from the entire series and it was nowhere to be found. Surely in some country this is a crime worthy of prison time?
9: Earthbound - Porky Means Business
Yeah it is a little over requested at times, but you can't knock the transition between chiptune melody to melt your face off metal. Pokey states in the game Giygas is so terrifying that he wet his pants, it's a lie. He wet them because he got an awesome battle tune and he knows it.
10: Sin and Punishment - Blood Infactor
This song shares a similar genre with "Marionation Gear". It is kind of that funky jazz fusion sound. The bassline is sick and gives a great atmosphere which screams "yeah there is a giant blood monster in front of me, so what?" Those who played the game will know what I mean...[/COLLAPSE]
All of the clone characters in Melee except Luigi were added in only to buff the roster in the last few months. Pichu was meant to be a joke character (sorry, I don't get it, Sakurai =/); Roy was added only to promote his upcoming FE game at the time; Ganondorf only barely made it in when they found his body design could be matched to Captain Falcon's; Young Link was added because Sakurai feels it's important to have both an older and younger Link in Smash Bros.; and Falco and Dr. Mario were just plain filler material, I believe.
You said yourself that the retainer chief should be playable and then ask why they couldn't use just a generic Toad. I said because they looked too similar. If Nintendo wishes to specify the playable Toad as being the retainer chief instead of a generic character, they must put in Toadsworth or Toadette in place of Toad.
I want Tails as an Assist Trophy too. Would expand on Sega's involvement in Smash without going too far.nLiM8d said:
It probably is...
