New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Deleted member]

Trying to turn Smash into other fighters.

The Super Smash Bros. Universe "leak".

Geno.

Krom.

Kid Icarus Goddess Wars.

Anything Arcadenik says.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

also, Zelda does fight ganon at the end of OoT... she utilizes her "Power" to stop Ganon from getting back up.
she also has a spell to unlock locked gates, but whatever.

Actually, Ninja Teleports are indeed the "blind and disappear", so that's exactly what it really is. That can't work in Smash, so it was changed to be a playable version of that teleport. So she did indeed use it before Zelda did something.

Also, temporarily stunning isn't much, to be honest. That sounds more like AT material. She didn't even use anything close to that in Smash, so clearly it wasn't considering a fighting technique. ...Also, unlocking gates isn't a fighting move. That's a pickpocket. :/

But I guess she finally did do something akin to fighting. Not before Sheik, though.

 

[lordvaati]

Zelda didn't fight in any game at all before Smash except for Non-Canon ones(and two shows). Actually read the whole message before you cherrypicking something. You'd notice I was talking about her never fighting in Canon. Hell, the first time she fought was during Wind Waker. Unless you can name a game where she does anything of slight note. Giving Link the Light Arrows does not count here.

Sheik actually did something in OOT. Teleported and teach songs. Teleportation is an actual skill used in fighting. Songs are actually used in fighting(Bards), even though it wasn't implemented.

I think she fought in FSA as well.

and Spirit trcks(kinda.)

also, I have come to the conclusion that Lip is the most neglected nintendo character ever. here's why:

Panel de Pon (PdP) was released in North America as Tetris Attack in 1996. This version, while essentially identical in gameplay to PdP, replaced the original characters and backgrounds with characters and scenes based on Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island. Some music tracks were also changed for this rebranding, and the game also includes a slightly more advanced computer-controlled player in certain modes. This rebranded version was then re-released in Japan several years later.

The game was updated and rebranded again in 2000 for the Nintendo 64 as Pokémon Puzzle League (PPL). This version, based on the first few seasons of the Pokémon anime, includes a training mode, a puzzle editor, and a 3D game mode that takes place in a cylindrical playfield. Pokémon Puzzle Challenge (PPC) was released around the same time for the Game Boy Color, retaining most of the features of PdP while introducing "Garbage Mode" and a new "Intense" difficulty level.

Panel de Pon was ported again in 2003, this time for the GameCube as part of Nintendo Puzzle Collection, released only in Japan. This version features new characters (the descendents of the original PdP characters), updated graphics and sound, and a four-player competitive mode. The game's release in North America was quietly cancelled.

An adaptation of Panel de Pon is available in the Game Boy Advance title Dr. Mario & Panel de Pon, released in Japan in 2005. This version, also released in North America as Dr. Mario & Puzzle League, contains generic graphics and background and no story mode at all, making it the first game in the series to be released on only the merits of its gameplay.

The most recent version of the game is Panel de Pon DS in Japan (Planet Puzzle League in North America), released in 2007 for the Nintendo DS. This version includes new backgrounds and music, stylus-enabled gameplay, and the ability to play against other players worldwide via the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection service. Aside from an unlockable background featuring Lip (from the original Panel de Pon) in the Japanese version, the DS version continues the storyless presentation of the Game Boy Advance title. A limited-function version, known as Chotto Panel de Pon in Japan, Puzzle League Express in North America, and A Little Bit Of Puzzle League in Europe, was released for the Nintendo DSi via the DSiWare service on the Nintendo DSi Shop. This version includes most of the original release's single-player features, and excludes multi-player gameplay entirely.

now you know something's wrong when she's removed from EVERY RELEASE OUTSIDE OF JAPAN. granted in the SNES era it was because of Sega's taunts, and on N64, because of the Pokemon craze, but every other one had no reason to delete her. I'm worried if she can even get in now....

 

[Big-Cat]

Anything that gets GY into a hissy fit.

I forgot one.

 

[augustoflores]

@Hyper
1. err... what? i said that already. was i not clear in my motives for posting?

2. i never said she should use that... i merely stated what she did in terms to combat in OoT. and the gates was just a joke.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I think she fought in FSA as well.

and Spirit trcks(kinda.)

Those are after Melee. I meant before Melee.

@augustoflores: Er... I think so?

 

[ChronoBound]

Well, affirmative action is bad, too. I don't support female characters because they are female. I support female characters because they are important characters in their series.

Peach - most important female in Mario series
Zelda - ditto for Zelda series
Samus - same for Metroid series
Palutena AND Medusa - yes to both for Kid Icarus series
Dixie Kong - more so when compared to other important females in the Donkey Kong series

I concur with this (though lately I have been doubting whether Medusa is important enough to warrant placement). The problem is that Nintendo simply does not create female characters that are important relative to male characters in their series. Palutena is legitimately the most important character in Kid Icarus after Pit (notice how she was the only character from that series aside from Pit to get a redesign and Brawl and the only good NPC to make an appearance in the SSE), and Dixie Kong is a really major character within her own series (was the one of the main protagonists in two out of the three games in the DKC trilogy, and more remarkable, unlike the male protagonists of her series. has never been kidnapped).

 

[---]

Am I weak? Or are the controls?

No it's you.

Using the controls as an excuse only shows more weakness.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Actually, Ninja Teleports are indeed the "blind and disappear", so that's exactly what it really is. That can't work in Smash, so it was changed to be a playable version of that teleport. So she did indeed use it before Zelda did something.

Also, temporarily stunning isn't much, to be honest. That sounds more like AT material. She didn't even use anything close to that in Smash, so clearly it wasn't considering a fighting technique. ...Also, unlocking gates isn't a fighting move. That's a pickpocket. :/

But I guess she finally did do something akin to fighting. Not before Sheik, though.

No, Sheik did nothing.

 

[yani]

Anything Arcadenik says.

LOL post of the day


Sheik getting her knife would be pretty cool imo

 

[Diddy Kong]

She never used a knife. She never did anything really :/ if you want a true game based Sheik, give her the Harp. Too bad Link and Zelda made more use of it

 

[augustoflores]

hmmm... yes... never...

may i say this is official art... i don't care if it wasn't used in the game... this art is official, your argument is invalid.

there's also that matter of her brawl model which verifies she holsters a ninja blade.

 

[ChronoBound]

I think Sakurai objected to both guns AND knives when he mentioned Snake's possible moveset.

 

[---]

Like a certain Spoon, Sheik getting her knife probably won't happen.

 

[augustoflores]

and a certain thunderhand wont happen either... sigh...

it sucks that guns are demonized because of games with increased violence... the real reason why those games are rated M is because of the violence after the shot, not the shot! i mean, there is intense gore with blood, but if there is no blood, just a slash noise and special effects, then it's alright... same goes for guns... just look at chris redfield in MvC3! that game is still rated T... and so is melee and brawl.

 

[ChronoBound]

The first part to Palutena's story is up in Japan. Nothing yet about when it will be released here.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

It would be cool if she got her knife, though. I don't get why a huge sword is fine, but a knife is not? It won't lead to blood or gore either way. Not seeing the problem here. :/

 

[Mypantisgone]

Damnit Falcon,i was about to say it,it's like c.falcon,he has a gun,but...

 

[---]

Just remembered, and to get it out of the way, Ganondorf and his sword fall into the same catagory as the the knife. Both won't happen.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

@Mewthree: It still could. If they use the WW variant. Sakurai just likes his clones.

@Mypantsisgone: I think it's a different scenario here. Falcon's moveset was based upon a superheroes as well as having elements from Dragon King: The Fighting Game, which appears to never had guns. So I think it's more or less that he's supposed to be a pure melee fighter to keep the reference to the original version, and because Falcon is badass enough without a weapon anyway. Honestly, he would only use a Laser Gun, and three characters cover that perfectly. I don't think he needs one at all.

 

[lordvaati]

and a certain thunderhand wont happen either... sigh...

it sucks that guns are demonized because of games with increased violence... the real reason why those games are rated M is because of the violence after the shot, not the shot! i mean, there is intense gore with blood, but if there is no blood, just a slash noise and special effects, then it's alright... same goes for guns... just look at chris redfield in MvC3! that game is still rated T... and so is melee and brawl.

also Title fight-supposed to play a lot like Smash, and like half the roster will be using guns.

also when you said Thunderhand it made me think of Luigi.

 

[augustoflores]

yep! thats the one i referred to!

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I thought the Thunderhand part was obvious myself. Or atleast to me. I play all the Mario RPG's.

I guess outside of Peach, Sakurai doesn't want to reference them? Eh, maybe he doesn't consider them beyond important or something. Who knows?

 

[Diddy Kong]

Jill and Lip > Impa and Krystal (and if you ask me, Dixie)

WRONG! Dixie and Impa are clearly the superior females.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

also, I have come to the conclusion that Lip is the most neglected nintendo character ever.

now you know something's wrong when she's removed from EVERY RELEASE OUTSIDE OF JAPAN. granted in the SNES era it was because of Sega's taunts, and on N64, because of the Pokemon craze, but every other one had no reason to delete her. I'm worried if she can even get in now....

Neglected enough to appear in Captain Rainbow, which also bombed... (-=-=-)

But I think the most neglected Nintendo-characters are Dion, Max and Jack from Marvelous: Mouhitotsu No Takarajima. Even more ironic is that it was Eiji Aonuma's first work before OOT. (-l_'-)

 

[Diddy Kong]

Like a certain Spoon, Sheik getting her knife probably won't happen.

Sheik herself probably won't happen.

Now Impa with a knife would be awesome

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Impa herself probably won't happen.

Fixed. Because honestly, this is more accurate to what'll happen.

Now Impa with a knife would be awesome

Can't disagree with this. It would make her unique and a nice 5th slot.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I see Impa as likelier than Sheik personally.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I see Impa as likelier than Sheik personally.

Too bad everything in Smash points the other direction. You're ignoring how Sakurai thinks. Nintendo didn't even suggest Impa for Brawl, despite the fact they show her as more important than Sheik.

You're living a dream where Impa is actually more popular than Sheik. She's not. That's just how it is.

Nobody is saying that you liking her over Sheik is a problem, Diddy. In fact, we're completely fine with that. But you're spreading false information about things, using completely insane logic.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I think I'm starting to grow an immunity to all the Impa talk

Oh, and if I had to choose an RE character, I would put in Nemesis or Tyrant

 

[Diddy Kong]

She'll easily pop Sheik's popularity... If she's in Smash this time. Pre-Brawl she wasn't that important actually

 

[Deleted member]

Anything that gets GY into a hissy fit.

I forgot one.

Anything that makes Kuma rage like a savage bear.

Spoiler

Which is damn near everything.

Forgot another.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

She'll easily pop Sheik's popularity... If she's in Smash this time. Pre-Brawl she wasn't that important actually

She should be popular enough to GET into Smash. Otherwise, she'll never replace another character. Sheik was popular regardless of Smash. She was popular in OOT. So was Impa, but not as much.

One game alone isn't going to make Impa far more popular. You know, I barely hear people talking about Impa at all when it comes to Skyward Sword. It's all Ghirahim. He's still more popular than her. You're just going to have to accept that Sheik is going to be more popular than her for a long time.

Unless Impa can do a lot in a lot more games, the chances of her beating out Sheik's supremely higher popularity is pretty much nil. Popularity is not based upon one slightly key appearance. It's based upon on the whole. I'd sooner expect Ghirahim to get in far before Impa.

 

[Conviction]

Anything that makes us talk in circles...oh wait.

So what day is it in this thread? It still feels like I reading the same stuff from December 18th, 2011. Bar KI stuff.

Do you guys ever do anything new or try to you know, be more cohesive?

 

[Deleted member]

How about instead of *****in' you contribute.
Be the change you want to happen. Don't expect others to change for you.

@HyperFalcon: Don't forget Groose. People like Groose more than Impa.


I just realized something, with

Spoiler

Hades being in Uprising

, wouldn't it be great that if he was voiced by James Woods?

No seriously. How awesome would that be?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

@GY: True. Impa played a neat role, but it did little. She's too much of a background character right now.

Hell, considering how much she does, why not make her a playable character(even somewhat like in Wind Waker) in the next Zelda game? That would actually up her popularity. Let's be honest, people actually do play Zelda games for the gameplay, not the story itself. Considering how bland the story is most of the time and all...

 

[Conviction]

I'm not *****ing homie, how about when I do post something worthwhile. You guys try to follow suit.

I'm not here to get dragged into the system of naming calling that's going on atm though. LOL

 

[Deleted member]

I think I'm starting to grow an immunity to all the Impa talk

Oh, and if I had to choose an RE character, I would put in Nemesis or Tyrant

Nemesis better scream "STARRRRRS!" when he's Star KO'd.

 

[Metal Overlord]

This thread ain't gonn change one bit until we get some NEWS, so might as well get used to it like I have

 

[Big-Cat]

Anything that makes Kuma rage like a savage bear.

Spoiler

Which is damn near everything.

Forgot another.

Please, the amount of times I've raged is miniscule compared to your tantrums which are at least twice a day in this thread.

Anything that makes us talk in circles...oh wait.

So what day is it in this thread? It still feels like I reading the same stuff from December 18th, 2011. Bar KI stuff.

Do you guys ever do anything new or try to you know, be more cohesive?

I think it's day 3.

Getting anything new from people in this thread is about as likely as me growing blonde hair all of a sudden.

How about instead of *****in' you contribute.
Be the change you want to happen. Don't expect others to change for you.

I'm pretty sure he's tried with gameplay discussion, but no one wants to discuss anything that requires critical thinking.