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Verde Coeden Scalesworth

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Air Dodges and Side Step put you into the 3D Plane already. I'd say that's good enough here.

Same with stuff like Teleports.
 

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I've had enough of Ghirahim, so he should not be brought up either.
That is only because you have some kind of irrational hatred for the character. Everyone else is ok with discussing him, and those who have supported him have not even come CLOSE to the level of other users.

As for Smash 3D, I would support it if it was rightly done for Super Smash Bros. 3DS.
 

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My idea of the 3D is that you don't decide where you go,but because of the level you will go somewhere in the"background" and anyone in the "foreground" can't attack you,and a mario galaxy level on a tiny planet,and because of the gravity,you are forced to ko the others using star ko's(wich is fitting since it's in space :awesome: ) speaking of 3D,i'm on my 3DS right now!

Beside me,the others viewving this are diddy ans golden *takes popcorn*
 

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Oompa is still better than Queerahim :troll:

Queerahim is funny, cause its true

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I am personally not keen on a Zelda newcomer in general. I think Zelda has all the characters it needs. I just would rather Ganondorf be given a new moveset, and his old moveset be given to Black Shadow.
 

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His old moveset can leave as is. I'd rather just bring in Samurai Goroh as is. Ganondorf can go Toon with two Swords, and Puppet Ganon as a final smash. Everybody wins.

I would've been fine if his Melee moveset went to Black Shadow, but his Brawl moveset... oh god was it terrible!

I wouldn't mind a Zelda newcomer. But really, it's among Tingle, Toon Zelda/Toon Sheik(or Tetra, or Phantom Zelda), Impa, Ghirahim, and that's about it for reasonable contenders. This isn't counting of Toon Link gets swapped with Young Link again.
 

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I am personally not keen on a Zelda newcomer in general. I think Zelda has all the characters it needs. I just would rather Ganondorf be given a new moveset, and his old moveset be given to Black Shadow.
I think Demise would be fitting, Since he.. Well you know.. Ganondorf and what not?
 

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The only two series that REALLY need newcomers are Donkey Kong (K. Rool and Dixie Kong) and F-Zero (Black Shadow and/or Samurai Goroh). Metroid just needs Ridley, and Kid Icarus needs Palutena.
 

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The only two series that REALLY need newcomers are Donkey Kong (K. Rool and Dixie Kong) and F-Zero (Black Shadow and/or Samurai Goroh). Metroid just needs Ridley, and Kid Icarus needs Palutena.
Metroid also needs a hunter.
 

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Yes it does, It represents Metroids first ds game which was an award winning success and DS game of the year. Not to mention ultimate example of the extent of DS graphics.
You do know Metroid Prime Hunters is the most hated game in the Metroid series next to Other M, right?
 
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Just because you WANT one doesn't mean it's likely or deserving.

Kirby's first DS game was Canvas Curse. Guess Drawcia is deserving. Canvas Curse was also a critically accalimed game (being called the DS's first great game), and it showed what the DS touch screen was capable of.

In other words, if Drawcia doesn't deserve it, neither do the one-shot Hunters.
 

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You do know Metroid Prime Hunters is the most hated game in the Metroid series next to Other M, right?
Ppl defend it as a game, So what if it offers nothing of a lasting plot atm.

And the belief is still very strong,
With multiple looks at the ship ect, About prime 3's ending with sylux.
 

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Just because you WANT one doesn't mean it's likely or deserving.

Kirby's first DS game was Canvas Curse. Guess Drawcia is deserving. Canvas Curse was also a critically accalimed game (being called the DS's first great game), and it showed what the DS touch screen was capable of.

In other words, if Drawcia doesn't deserve it, neither do the one-shot Hunters.
I explained why its deserving, The want one bull**** can be aimed at any potential character. Don't even go there.
 

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Ppl defend it as a game, So what if it offers nothing of a lasting plot atm.

And the belief is still very strong,
With multiple looks at the ship ect, About prime 3's ending with sylux.
You are making no sense. It also hurts that none of the Hunters never appeared in another game and that Hunters is regarded by the people who even made the game as a side story.
 
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We DON'T KNOW if that's Sylux or not. Heck, it's a different design than his ship.

It's also rumored to be a ship for Dark Samus, implying she survived.


And no, it's still not deserving. They are minor one-shot characters.
 
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"'Its owner, origin, and affiliation are unknown, but its design bears some similarities to Sylux's Delano 7, making it possible that the owner may be Sylux. However, the ship's exterior is identical in coloration and texture to Dark Samus' armor, which also implies that she is the pilot of the unknown vessel, and that Samus' nemesis survived the destruction of Phaaze."
 

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We DON'T KNOW if that's Sylux or not. Heck, it's a different design than his ship.

It's also rumored to be a ship for Dark Samus, implying she survived.


And no, it's still not deserving. They are minor one-shot characters.
It could also be the ship belongs to an entirely new character.

Golden, pretty much has got this.

Weavel, how old are you?
 

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We DON'T KNOW if that's Sylux or not. Heck, it's a different design than his ship.

It's also rumored to be a ship for Dark Samus, implying she survived.


And no, it's still not deserving. They are minor one-shot characters.
The ship is the same design, It even changes shape just like sylux's before take off. Ppl who played hunters and looked at his ship have talked about this. People just can't dismiss the possibility, It would also make sense as a nintendo rep talked about a metroid multilplayer after its release and still brought it up even after metroid other M dropped.
 
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It is not of the same design. I have seen both ships back to back.

The coloration is more like Dark Samus than it is of Sylux or the Delano 7 anyway.
 

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"'Its owner, origin, and affiliation are unknown, but its design bears some similarities to Sylux's Delano 7, making it possible that the owner may be Sylux. However, the ship's exterior is identical in coloration and texture to Dark Samus' armor, which also implies that she is the pilot of the unknown vessel, and that Samus' nemesis survived the destruction of Phaaze."
Dark samus is dead, Ppl who know metroid understand this. We saw her die. The game even says the era of phazon is over, Which is what dark samus drives her power from. Its also how she was born. She is a phazon entity and she is dead.
 
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Red Phazon still exists, and as we've learned in the Metroid series, things that seem dead soon reveal to NOT be dead. And I'm not just talking about Ridley.
 

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It is not of the same design. I have seen both ships back to back.

The coloration is more like Dark Samus than it is of Sylux or the Delano 7 anyway.
Sylux's ship folds just like the ship at the ending of prime 3. I also saw this myself when I played hunters. It folds just as Sylux's ship does, It even has green engine fire like sylux.

Phazon is over. The game itself said the Era of phazon is over. The game is continuing the series now without it.
 

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Impa looks like a trans body builder(or just a very rude old women) and the other is a gay emo demon,the end!
That's OOT Impa. We're talking about smexy young Skyward Sword Impa.



His old moveset can leave as is. I'd rather just bring in Samurai Goroh as is. Ganondorf can go Toon with two Swords, and Puppet Ganon as a final smash. Everybody wins.

I would've been fine if his Melee moveset went to Black Shadow, but his Brawl moveset... oh god was it terrible!

I wouldn't mind a Zelda newcomer. But really, it's among Tingle, Toon Zelda/Toon Sheik(or Tetra, or Phantom Zelda), Impa, Ghirahim, and that's about it for reasonable contenders. This isn't counting of Toon Link gets swapped with Young Link again.
His moveset itself isn't terrible. Just his overall lack of safe options, and hard nerfs on his recovery / Down B + loss of some of his combos due to a different working Side B. But if only his Down B worked like it did in Melee (as an attack and a recovery option) he'd already be much, MUCH better. Anyhow, I still prefer him over Zelda. That, and I kick *** with him online (yesterday I got 12 KOs lol, no falls either). But I still wanna see him get more revamped. At the very least to the amount of uniqueness Wolf and Lucas have.

Then again, it's hard to picture him having the same B moves if he's gonna fight with a sword on his regular attacks.

The only two series that REALLY need newcomers are Donkey Kong (K. Rool and Dixie Kong) and F-Zero (Black Shadow and/or Samurai Goroh). Metroid just needs Ridley, and Kid Icarus needs Palutena.
Donkey Kong yes. But F-Zero would be fine with just one newcomer. And I'd say Metroid could use two newcomers as well namely: Ridley and Anthony Higgs. Other series that could get 2 new characters are Pokemon and Fire Emblem if Mewtwo and Roy come back. And it's very likely those 2 series will get newcomers anyway. So I say: Donkey Kong, Metroid, Pokemon and Fire Emblem most likely will have 2 characters in that wheren't in Brawl. Though Metroid is still uncertain, Anthony's chances aren't the biggest, but as far as a second Metroid rep goes: it'll definitely be him I feel.
 
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Even though many of us are against your tirades about Anthony Higgs, I need you to do me a favor, Diddy.

Convince Weavel that the Hunters are behind Anthony in terms of who is deserving and likely.
 

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That's OOT Impa. We're talking about smexy young Skyward Sword Impa.

Only you are. We're talking about the entire character. No matter what design gets into Smash, it's still Impa. Nobody cares which version but you. You're no longer defending Impa, you're defending a one-off character.

His moveset itself isn't terrible. Just his overall lack of safe options, and hard nerfs on his recovery / Down B + loss of some of his combos due to a different working Side B. But if only his Down B worked like it did in Melee (as an attack and a recovery option) he'd already be much, MUCH better. Anyhow, I still prefer him over Zelda. That, and I kick *** with him online (yesterday I got 12 KOs lol, no falls either). But I still wanna see him get more revamped. At the very least to the amount of uniqueness Wolf and Lucas have.

Then again, it's hard to picture him having the same B moves if he's gonna fight with a sword on his regular attacks.
Nah, he could have the same B moves as is. Likewise, sorry, but he's terrible in Brawl. He barely can win against any competent player because he was designed terribly. It's a fact of life. He sucks in Brawl. He doesn't suck in Melee.

Also, online play is laggy as hell half the time. That, and it has items. Which does not speak of individual character balancing at all. Characters need to be balanced under the impression that they're all on a purely neutral stage. That's the type of balancing required to make it work. Of course items and stages will upset the balance.
 

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Even though many of us are against your tirades about Anthony Higgs, I need you to do me a favor, Diddy.

Convince Weavel that the Hunters are behind Anthony in terms of who is deserving and likely.
See? Even you are trying to pull the deserving card while useing the "I want it card" on me. First metroid DS game, Great ratings, Great gameplay,Great online and it sold really well. All of the hunters are also really developed.
Even more so then the ones in prime 3.
 

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The only metroid rep that has any significant chance other than Ridley is Dark Samus.
 
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