New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Metal Overlord]

Palutena's Story:

Spoiler

 

[Diddy Kong]

With that look, he'll get there...

 

[LC-DDM]

HOLD the **** up

35 DLC characters? I ain't even notice that the first time around

Oh hell naw, you gonn have to cut that down by like 30 characters

I guess someone managed to go even beyond what I did. xD

 

[SmashChu]

You missed SmashChu and KumaOso's wedding. Twas beatiful. Metal Overlord cried. Oasis PMS'd. Chrono was the best man. xIblisx caught the bouquet. Btw, happy birthday!

That's BS

Spoiler

Oasis is always the best man

Palutena's Story:

Kawaii Desu

 

[Big-Cat]

Palutena's Story:

Every day, it seems like Palutena is one of Sakurai's favorite characters. Yay.

In other news, it's nothing special today for Bison.

 

[LC-DDM]

Capcom does what Nintendon't.

Yeah, like housing "DLC" in the disc and crapping all over a franchise.

For those DBZ fans in this topic, Norio Wakamoto was also the voice of Cell in Japan.

Cell, M. Bison, that cowboy guy from Guilty Gear, Nobunaga, that cat-thing from Azumanga Daioh...

****, that guy is the David Hayter of Japan.

Every day, it seems like Palutena is one of Sakurai's favorite characters. Yay.

In other news, it's nothing special today for Bison.

Holy crap, that's awesome. O_O

 

[Big-Cat]

Yeah, like housing "DLC" in the disc and crapping all over a franchise.

It's still better than having everyone download big files for high prices. As for whether or not they should've been in there from the beginning, that's up to Capcom, not us. We're basically given the licence to play the initial 38 characters (not counting the Sony exclusives) which is plenty enough as it is. Whether we like it or not, the license to play those other 12 is separate and entirely up to them, and there's nothing illegal about it. Unethical maybe, but entirely legal.

 

[Baskerville]

They also leaked the entire DLC characters and costumes as well.

 

[LC-DDM]

It's still better than having everyone download big files for high prices. As for whether or not they should've been in there from the beginning, that's up to Capcom, not us. We're basically given the licence to play the initial 38 characters (not counting the Sony exclusives) which is plenty enough as it is. Whether we like it or not, the license to play those other 12 is separate and entirely up to them, and there's nothing illegal about it. Unethical maybe, but entirely legal.

Yeah, I guess you're right. Still feels like a bit of a copout though...

Regardless, I'll still get the game, but maybe used -- don't have a lot of money, myself, and I'm itching to get MGS Collection first.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I wouldn't mind this, seeing as it wouldn't take too much time to make. Personally I think it would take a while to get all the "Sketch" moves though.

Still Sakurai has pulled out a random Pokémon (Jigglypuff, Pichu, and the Pokémon Trainer) and a logical Pokémon newcomer (Pikachu, Mewtwo, and Lucario) in each smash game, so a "WTF?" Pokémon isn't out of the question. Nothing can be considered as "no chance," especially when it comes to Pokémon.

Well, Smeargle would be limited to using only special moves, and they would have to be moves that actually deal damage. There is the standard specials, but Kirby also covers them when he copies foes.

Palutena's Story:

Something must've caused Palutena to blush. Anyway, it is impressive what anime-styled drawings can accomplish.

 

[Big-Cat]

Yeah, I guess you're right. Still feels like a bit of a copout though...

Regardless, I'll still get the game, but maybe used -- don't have a lot of money, myself, and I'm itching to get MGS Collection first.

I was reading the comments on this and one comment in particular stuck out.

I don't mind having extra characters be on the disk that I have to pay for in order to access. What I do mind is their being labeled as "downloadable" when you aren't actually downloading anything, you're simply unlocking them. Saying that they are DLC is misleading.

Game companies should start differentiating between what is actually "downloadable" content and what is simply "premium" content.

I really like this idea. It's kind of like if I decided to buy Nightwish's latest album which has like two or three versions available. I basically payed extra to get the instrumental tracks that don't come with the basic release. With SFxTK, I'm paying extra to get a "premium" release. Compare this to the Nightwish album. I can't buy the basic CD and try to get the instrumental CD on its own later on. I have to buy the two disc version as well which includes a disc I already bought. With SFxTK, I just have to wait until they let us have Elena and co.

And besides, I think "premium content" is a rather appealing term. Makes people feel like they're richer.

 

[LC-DDM]

More importantly, there's laundry hanging behind her -- is that a basement or something?

 

[---]

Pit's Story:

Doesn't look as good as the Goddesses OVAs, hopefully there will be some epic fights.

Palutena's Story:

Looking at the page few pages, I'm pretty sure that Palutena support just went up.

Medusa's Story:

Looks okay so far. It will be interesting to see how her OVA plays out, too bad Pit blocks a good chunk of her face. Not the best pic IMO.

 

[Big-Cat]

I'm starting to wonder if I have a thing for not only pink haired girls (and Poison), but green haired girls as well.

 

[---]

I'm starting to wonder if I have a thing for not only pink haired girls (and Poison), but green haired girls as well.

Administers the FE test: Palla, Catira, Est.

Spoiler

^^Pegasus Sisters for AT.

 

[Big-Cat]

I think we can add blue haired girls to the list.

So, what do you guys think of looking at DLC as premium content instead?

 

[Jonas]

I think we can add blue haired girls to the list.

Too bad it's inevitably going to look fake (which it would be) if anyone tried that in real life

I really like this idea. It's kind of like if I decided to buy Nightwish's latest album which has like two or three versions available. I basically payed extra to get the instrumental tracks that don't come with the basic release. With SFxTK, I'm paying extra to get a "premium" release. Compare this to the Nightwish album. I can't buy the basic CD and try to get the instrumental CD on its own later on. I have to buy the two disc version as well which includes a disc I already bought. With SFxTK, I just have to wait until they let us have Elena and co.

And besides, I think "premium content" is a rather appealing term. Makes people feel like they're richer.

But in REALITY (and this is important) it's just a way for Capcom to set a higher pricepoint (ie making people pay more). Console games have fixed prices, but Capcom would probably do this anyway to make the game look cheaper on the store shelves.

I think Capcom should be allowed to price their games at whatever amount they like, but I'd like for games to get cheaper rather than more expensive. I'm definitively off the SFxT hype train because of Capcom's weird moneygrabbing tactics (to be fair I was never THAT interested).

You're right though that it's the height of game publisher bull**** to call it "downloadable content" when evidently the content is in your hands the moment you get the disc.

 

[---]

I think we can add blue haired girls to the list.

Well that does explain your support for Sheeda.

Final Diagnosis: We're all perverts.

So, what do you guys think of looking at DLC as premium content instead?

I'm not quite sure yet, I'd rather wait and see how Nintendo is going to handle FE13 before anything else.

 

[Big-Cat]

But in REALITY (and this is important) it's just a way for Capcom to set a higher pricepoint (ie making people pay more). Console games have fixed prices, but Capcom would probably do this anyway to make the game look cheaper on the store shelves.

Problem with that is that you're looking at a very slippery slope if they do that. It's like getting the allure that you pay 5$ for the next Zelda, but you have to pay 45$ to play the rest of the story. Of course, this argument is very much YMMV. To me, the 38 characters are enough to give me hundreds of hours of play time, but someone will say otherwise.

Then, you have to take into account that the prices already set cover development costs and expecting to have around 95% of development costs covered by DLC/Premium content is a very risky move. It'd be another thing, though, if we were talking about a game that was strictly available via download.

@---
I'll describe the three Pegasus Sisters as such: Beautiful, Cute, and Cute and Spunky respectively.

I don't think it's perverted to say a girl, fictional or not, is attractive. It's another thing if you're getting into the kinky stuff.

 

[---]

Sorry, I'm just poking fun.

Anyway I have class now, later.

 

[Jonas]

There is no such slippery slope. Even Capcom knows nobody is stupid enough to pay for a game that has no content, so they try to adjust prices and the amount of readily available content accordingly.

They're obviously doing something wrong anyway though. Maybe if they made games people want to play, they wouldn't have financial problems, and then they wouldn't have to pull these stupid "DLC" schemes.

 

[Linkshot]

Something must've caused Palutena to blush. Anyway, it is impressive what anime-styled drawings can accomplish.

Maybe you caught her at a bad t--

Final Diagnosis: We're all perverts.

Oh, I see you've got this covered.

Well then I'll be sincere and suggest they're trying to make it more obvious she is the good goddess.

 

[yani]

Game Informer subscribers get a KI AR card in the April issue.

 

[Oasis_S]

It looks like Palutena is in the kitchen. Hence having to fight a vegetable monster. She's so useless.

 

[Big-Cat]

I'm looking at the Palutena in Pit's Final Smash and boy does she look either boring or bored, I'm not sure which.

BTW, for my liking of Pink, Blue, and Green haired girls, that obviously doesn't apply to real life. And besides, black hair is top tier in my book (lol biased).

 

[---]

It looks like Palutena is in the kitchen. Hence having to fight a vegetable monster. She's so useless.

Doesn't sound any more useless than Princess Peach and her frying pan. Peach Decomfirmed.

@Yani: Well I'm definitely re-subscribing to Game Informer now. I'm sick of only getting Newsweek anyway.

 

[LC-DDM]

I was reading the comments on this and one comment in particular stuck out.


I really like this idea. It's kind of like if I decided to buy Nightwish's latest album which has like two or three versions available. I basically payed extra to get the instrumental tracks that don't come with the basic release. With SFxTK, I'm paying extra to get a "premium" release. Compare this to the Nightwish album. I can't buy the basic CD and try to get the instrumental CD on its own later on. I have to buy the two disc version as well which includes a disc I already bought. With SFxTK, I just have to wait until they let us have Elena and co.

And besides, I think "premium content" is a rather appealing term. Makes people feel like they're richer.

Yeah, I think Premium content sounds much more accurate the way Capcom is doing things.

And even then it still doesn't feel right.

 

[Diddy Kong]

It looks like Palutena is in the kitchen. Hence having to fight a vegetable monster. She's so useless.

Useless you say?

You get Sillier by the minute dear Sir.

 

[yani]

@Yani: Well I'm definitely re-subscribing to Game Informer now. I'm sick of only getting Newsweek anyway.

I only get Game Informer myself because of the GameStop Pro membership or whatever, so I'm glad to see this little bonus

 

[ChronoBound]

It looks like Palutena is in the kitchen. Hence having to fight a vegetable monster. She's so useless.

Nice observation considering that a cooking contest does take place during Palutena's story. However, a vegetable army crashes the contest.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I know what kind of enemies you'd fight in that mission.

 

[---]

You get Sillier by the minute dear Sir.

That's a little hypocriticial...

I only get Game Informer myself because of the GameStop Pro membership or whatever, so I'm glad to see this little bonus

Same here, I wouldn't be surprised to see Nintendo Power have their own AR Card giveaway though. They have in the past with promo Pokemon cards and the Eon Ticket event.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I'm joking around man.

Which I never do, mind you. I'm strictly serious.

 

[Starphoenix]

Playing through Chrono Trigger reminds me how much I would love Crono to be in Super Smash Bros. If people are going to support a one shot Square Enix character from a SNES RPG it should be him. Alas...

 

[---]

Nice observation considering that a cooking contest does take place during Palutena's story. However, a vegetable army crashes the contest.

Medusa certainly is Silly for attacking with an edible army.

I won't lie, the ending sounds pretty predictable.

@Diddy: Acting Serious is what makes you so Silly.

 

[Diddy Kong]

U mad cause I just want the better Sheikah.

 

[Johnknight1]

Alright *****es
Despite this being not related to Smash bros. wii U, this is still a pretty awesome topic and may or may not open some possibilities. I dunno. Whatever

Meah, I don't care about Street Fighter X Tekken. Still, a lot of those taunts were generic, Ken and Ryu are like our Kuma/Chu gig, and that fart attack was rather random...

That's BS

Spoiler

Oasis is always the best man

Spoiler

Maybe I got Chrono and Oasis mixed up! I also forgot about Diddy Kong dressing up in a child's Impa outfit.

Well, Smeargle would be limited to using only special moves, and they would have to be moves that actually deal damage. There is the standard specials, but Kirby also covers them when he copies foes.

Oh, okay. That still is pretty crazy, though. Also, Kirby's "absorbed" specials are a little different from most of the :bbutton: moves he steals.

Playing through Chrono Trigger reminds me how much I would love Crono to be in Super Smash Bros. If people are going to support a one shot Square Enix character from a SNES RPG it should be him. Alas...

If we're talking Square Enix NES/SNES era characters, Crono or Geno would be the best.

Spoiler

Maybe Terra (Final Fantasy VI), Black Mage, or Slime would be good, too.

 

[Starphoenix]

If we're talking Square Enix NES/SNES era characters, Crono or Geno would be the best.

Spoiler

Maybe Terra (Final Fantasy VI), Black Mage, or Slime would be good, too.

More so Crono, and after him maybe Cecil. Sorry, I do not see Geno as a good character at all. Even Cloud is not as over rated as he is. Does not mean I would not like him if he showed up in Smash, but he is not a good character.

Perhaps the better choice of words would be that he is not a well developed character.

 

[ChronoBound]

Playing through Chrono Trigger reminds me how much I would love Crono to be in Super Smash Bros. If people are going to support a one shot Square Enix character from a SNES RPG it should be him. Alas...

Crono is the only other third-party character I would really, really want aside from Mega Man. However, Crono's chances are so low, he will most likely never be a playable character in Smash Bros.

 

[Johnknight1]

More so Crono, and after him maybe Cecil. Sorry, I do not see Geno as a good character at all. Even Cloud is not as over rated as he is. Does not mean I would not like him if he showed up in Smash, but he is not a good character.

Perhaps the better choice of words would be that he is not a well developed character.

Nah, I think Geno could use a lot of unique long-ranged attacks. Personally, I have always wanted to see a character with a lot of long-range moves, and so far, we don't have anything like that (the closest thing is Link/Young Link/Toon Link with 3 projectiles). Geno fits that description as well as anyone.

Geno also could have some unique short range-weapons. Plus, Geno is a Boba Fett-esk quiet and all-around awesome bro. Geno is a simple character who has a simple objective. That is why people like him. It's not like any Nintendo character is ultra complicated.

Crono, while awesome, I don't think would add that. Also, while Cecil would be nice (I love FFIV), but I think Terra's (more diverse) moves are a better fit for Smash.

Crono is the only other third-party character I would really, really want aside from Mega Man. However, Crono's chances are so low, he will most likely never be a playable character in Smash Bros.

Crono would be a great playable character, assist trophy character, etc.