New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Metal Overlord]

Whatever you say Launch.

For some reason, I think you are actually Launch.

That would mean that you're... Tien?

Me and Goku are a pretty good match-up. HyperFalcon, asage and Madame puff if he still posted around here would be dope choices, too.

 

[Oasis_S]

If Deoxys had any good shot at getting into Smash it was in Brawl while generation 3 was somewhat relevant, but unfortunately it never made it.

YOU DONT HAVE TO TELL ME. I WAS AROUND FOR THE HURT.

Spoiler

Doodled those after the Deoxys pokeball'd update. I LOOK FORWARD TO ILLUSTRATING MY POINTS WITH MS PAINT DOODLES IN THE FUTURE.

Hi broserker.

 

[OmegaXXII]

That would mean that you're... Tien?

Me and Goku are a pretty good match-up. HyperFalcon, asage and Madame puff if he still posted around here would be dope choices, too.

Hehe, perhaps I should get a Tien/Trunks avatar?

Yeah, you guys are a weird awesome bunch with DBZ, there used yo' be this one user here, he was the ultimate Goku fan and Iblis being Vegeta was always schooling him.

 

[Thino]

I'm obviously Piccolo

 

[OmegaXXII]

But I thought you were a chi-chi!

Okay, I really can't wait for an official trailer, obviously I'd do because I'm clearly am discussing DBZ.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Actually, yes. Why aren't Samus and ZSS separated already, again?

Oh yeah, so they can have wasted Final Smashes.

The two are one in the same, so it would be a waste to make them separate entities.

 

[OmegaXXII]

^Agreed, they just need to modify ZZS's Final Smash is all.

 

[SmashChu]

Warrant is a subjective term. Could they? Perhaps. It really depends upon how biased Sakurai and Project Sora are coming off of development of Kid Icarus: Uprising. The rumbly in my tumbly tells me that if Sakurai was hesitant to oversaturate the Melee roster, which really wouldn't have, with Kirby characters than I somehow believe he is not going to do that with Kid Icarus either. Sure, we will likely have one of the two, but that probably will be it.

I'm still saying it's two new characters from the series. After this game, Kid Icarus will explode with new content. There also is a lot less characters to chose from this time. So I doubt he'll hold back on Kid Icarus.

 

[Oasis_S]

You're lucky Uprising comes out before E3, SheriffChu. You'll have some extra time to REFINE YOUR JUDGMENTS if need be.

...Also, suppose we don't get much of anything Smash related for E3. How would this effect this little PREDICTION ...game.

 

[---]

Ugg, I just got out of my Japanese Mid Term. Crazy stuff.

I'm obviously Piccolo

Are you a ?

I'm still saying it's two new characters from the series. After this game, Kid Icarus will explode with new content. There also is a lot less characters to chose from this time. So I doubt he'll hold back on Kid Icarus.

Being a KI fanboy, I find that awesome.

You're lucky Uprising comes out before E3, SheriffChu. You'll have some extra time to REFINE YOUR JUDGMENTS if need be.

...Also, suppose we don't get much of anything Smash related for E3. How would this effect this little PREDICTION ...game.

Meh, we'd probably continue what we're doing as normal, just with the character pool changing up a bit.

 

[Oasis_S]

Actually, it was a stupid question come to think of it. Whether or not we get anything at E3 won't change the fact that Sm4sh will be getting started with development.

Also: 最強なのよ!

 

[Aurane]

Honestly, I'd rather see Lucario get in. Say he did, and so did Victini. I'd play Victini as a second-in-command, but mai boi is always on my side ^^
Little sick today, if neone noticed me bark a little b4. Sorry bout that
I think as always, some newcomers and vetran returns are always welcomed. Except mach rider. Captain Falcon 4 life.

~Adventure Mode combo team ideas:
-Lucario and (three choices) Marth, Link, or Amaterasu (last one for kicks)
-Meta Knight and Pit
-Pikachu and Pichu

 

[Berserker.]

Captain Falcon is alone...

He needs mach rider as his friend (Not Snake)

Oh and Brosis, I have a surprise for you but it's not the surprise that me and Star was talking about.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=5999352&postcount=1951

Fighting while riding a bike? Win

 

[Oasis_S]

HUH. Neat.

Though it seems incredibly impractical.


Andand... I want more exploding and reforming.

 

[Berserker.]

Was it because of the whole motorcycle mechanic?

 

[Oasis_S]

I think it was because of the whole motorcycle mechanic, yes.

 

[Deleted member]

In regard to a Kid Icarus newcomer, I think we'll almost certainly get a character from it and there's a decent chance of us getting two.

I know I'd be in the minority in terms of supporting Zoaroark over Victini but I'd gladly hold my ground.

Technically, you aren't in the minority. The only sites where I have seen people generally favor Victini over Zoroark is this site and maybe GameFAQs. Other sites still prefer Zoroark.

If you win this debate in its entirety, I will never again defend Victini and accept Zoroark as an inevitability (though he will still have my utter disdain). Oh and make sure to PM me when you have posted your attack on Victini so I don't forget.

Also, I request that I argue against The Real Gamer by myself on this thread and no intervention from anyone who supports Victini. Detractors of Victini, however, may aid The Real Gamer's case if they wish.

 

[Oasis_S]

That's quite the conViction you've got there.


Is Victini actually one of your favorite Pokemon? I thought you just wanted him because you didn't want Zoroark BECAUSE you didn't want him to take Mewtwo's spot.

Something like that.


I'm calling it: Victini's N-air will look like fireworks. AWWWH YEEEAH INDEPENDENCE FROM GRAVITY. USA! USA! USA!

 

[Deleted member]

That's quite the conViction you've got there.


Is Victini actually one of your favorite Pokemon? I thought you just wanted him because you didn't want Zoroark BECAUSE you didn't want him to take Mewtwo's spot.

Something like that.

Victini is one of my favorite 5th gen Pokemons. I like that its personality reflects an exciting, energetic, and happy Pokemon that strives for victory in every match. Plus its the first Mew-like Pokemon I could actually picture fighting in a Smash game. The moment I saw Victini mentioned in SSB4, I immediately took an interest in it, which has only grown within the past few months.

Honestly, if I only wanted Victini so that Zoroark doesn't get in, it wouldn't be one of my very most wanted characters for Smash. But I will say this, a big part of me supporting Victini is that so we'll end up with five slots. With Zoroark, I see the most likely case scenario being they just swap Lucario with Zoroark and I don't want that to happen.

 

[Oasis_S]

So, while Shorts isn't around, I want to entertain the thought of Victini replacing Jigglypuff. It's got the eyes and the aerial prowess. MORE IMPORTANTLY, I think it'd be neat if, like Jiggly, it didn't have a proper third jump. I was thinking it would be neat if it had a move that instead summoned fiVe fireballs that circle around itself (think TRIPLE SHELLS in Mario Kart). They could be used offensively by getting near an opponent, possibly aiding COMBOS, as well as being used defensively to absorb projectiles. I guess after a certain amount of time they'd disappear and require a bit of a COOL DOWN period.

Also, Pound's recovery abilities would be replaced by the FIREWORKS N-AIR which would give it a small vertical boost for three uses.

I guess.

Actually maybe it could be some kind of strange Lucario and Jigglypuff AMALGAM. Characteristics of Jigglypuff with attacks closer to Lucario's. Not that it needs to be thought of in those terms. It'll pretty much be it's own thing, lol.

 

[Deleted member]

@Oasis_S: Bad idea. Even thought I prefer Mewtwo and Lucario, I'd like for Jigglypuff to stay due to being part of the original twelve, being one of the most popular Pokemon, and having an unique move set. There is no one I would say should be cut.

As for your idea, it would work. Each attack should be about 2% in damage and the fireball disappear after ten seconds. The cool down would last about thirty seconds and if it tried to activate it, it would end up being out of breath.

 

[The Real Gamer]

In regard to a Kid Icarus newcomer, I think we'll almost certainly get a character from it and there's a decent chance of us getting two.Technically, you aren't in the minority. The only sites where I have seen people generally favor Victini over Zoroark is this site and maybe GameFAQs. Other sites still prefer Zoroark.

If you win this debate in its entirety, I will never again defend Victini and accept Zoroark as an inevitability (though he will still have my utter disdain). Oh and make sure to PM me when you have posted your attack on Victini so I don't forget.

Also, I request that I argue against The Real Gamer by myself on this thread and no intervention from anyone who supports Victini. Detractors of Victini, however, may aid The Real Gamer's case if they wish.

Challenge accepted! Although there really can't be a clear cut winner in a debate like this since most of it is just speculation, especially if talking about chances of a character getting in.

Are we specifically debating why character X has a better chance of getting in than character Y or why character X would be an all around better candidate for Smash 4 than character Y? Or both?

 

[Oasis_S]

It would be a bad idea, but I feel there's going to be a cut no matter what. People don't want to give up Lucario, they want Mewtwo back, and they want to add a new Pokemon, BUT THAT ALL SEEMS TO BE PUSHING IT TO ME. I even question having five slots, so losing Lucario and Jigglypuff while gaining Mewtwo and Victini would be... a solution. There's not really a GOOD solution for something like that. Going to be some unhappy fans out there and that really just can't be helped.

OH WELL, I'm not really betting on that anyway.

 

[Deleted member]

Challenge accepted! Although there really can't be a clear cut winner in a debate like this since most of it is just speculation, especially if talking about chances of a character getting in.

Are we specifically debating why character X has a better chance of getting in than character Y or why character X would be an all around better candidate for Smash 4 than character Y? Or both?

For this debate, both.

I will respond this evening.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Honestly it would be a lot more convenient for me if you started the opening argument and I just responded to it. I've never had this much work to do in a single day (a test I have to take in 3 hours, a 3 page paper due tomorrow that I have yet to start, 2 worksheets, and ANOTHER test tomorrow... UUUUUUGH) and honestly I shouldn't be on Smashboards right now in the first place so it would be easier for me to respond in short spurts to your opening argument than to take too long writing my entire opening argument because I have a lot to say.

Overall though this should be fun.

 

[OmegaXXII]

If you win this debate in its entirety, I will never again defend Victini and accept Zoroark as an inevitability (though he will still have my utter disdain). Oh and make sure to PM me when you have posted your attack on Victini so I don't forget.

Also, I request that I argue against The Real Gamer by myself on this thread and no intervention from anyone who supports Victini. Detractors of Victini, however, may aid The Real Gamer's case if they wish.

Agreed, let's see this, although I doubt I have to intervene since I do support Victini, no offense to Zoroark.

 

[shinhed-echi]

I might be one of the only Pokemon Trainer fans around here, but I would love him to have a taunt dialogue gimmick like Snake's codec or Fox/Falco/Wolf's team dialogue.

A pokedex would appear telling you about your opponent's stats, bio, and (if possible) weakness.

Example:

(Pokedex voice): Luigi. 115 cms high, 60Kgs.

Weakness: Diagonal recovery.

Luigi is Mario's younger brother. As such, he shares some of his moves, but overtime he's developed some of his own. By charging the Green Missile, Luigi can travel great distances horizontally. Randomly, he'll simply blast off at full power without charging.

(Would be awesome if Pokedex reveals a hidden attribute that you didn't know about)

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

That would mean that you're... Tien?

Me and Goku are a pretty good match-up. HyperFalcon, asage and Madame puff if he still posted around here would be dope choices, too.

Kamehame Punch? Anyway, what DBZ character would I be?

Also, no removing the original twelve. That just won't work. Let's make our choices based off of a realm of possibility.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Well, the original 12 seem like they are likely to stay, but I'm not going to say they are guaranteed shoe-ins, perhaps it's because of Jiggs nearly getting the axe during Brawl's development which proves Sakurai had no intention of keeping the original 12 intact.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

But the fact she did stay says something. For 3 games, the original 12 and Master Hand are the only ones to never leave. I doubt it'll change. Albeit, their importance may lessen, but they're specific veterans. Also, Giant Donkey Kong and Metal Mario aren't guaranteed to show up like in 64 and Melee, so they no longer count.

I do admit that Jigglypuff was the most likely of original 12 to leave but I think she'll stick around.

 

[OmegaXXII]

She was merely hanging on by thread which happened to have saved her situation, but yeah, I agree that Jiggs at this point in time is likely to stay due to her established role in Smash already, regardless of popularity outside of it, to simply it, I'd say her chances are 95% percent, that are 5% could mean based on her near exclusion from Brawl, overall is likely to return.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Where are you guys getting this idea that jiggs almost didn't make it into brawl?

 

[OmegaXXII]

It's been proven under the Forbidden 7 theory thing, Simone posted some good info on this, I'll have to look for it though.

Overall I wouldn't worry so much, it's just a possibility but probably not one to happen.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

She was merely hanging on by thread which happened to have saved her situation, but yeah, I agree that Jiggs at this point in time is likely to stay due to her established role in Smash already, regardless of popularity outside of it, to simply it, I'd say her chances are 95% percent, that are 5% could mean based on her near exclusion from Brawl, overall is likely to return.

That's true. Why else would she have no role in the SSE? I mean, why wouldn't another semi-clone(Lucas, Ganondorf, for example) be in her place? I do admit that making a role for Jigglypuff would've been fairly hard. I mean, what would she do?

 

[OmegaXXII]

Yeah, it was strange to find out that she had no SSE role whatsover, even harder to believe that Sonic, who we all know got added late still managed to get an ackward role in SSE, even though it really wasn't a role since Sakurai was pressed for time to actually give Sonic a decent role, as for Jiggs, it could very well mean she was either, the last character to be included or Sakurai just didn't care in a role for Jiggs, what I believe is that he was pressed on time since it was already due to be released in late 2007 anyway, but even then she still didn't get added which I find strange indeed.

Off-Topic question: Can you see my location, wii number??

 

[Steam]

That's true. Why else would she have no role in the SSE? I mean, why wouldn't another semi-clone(Lucas, Ganondorf, for example) be in her place? I do admit that making a role for Jigglypuff would've been fairly hard. I mean, what would she do?

Lucario and snake would ride jiggz like the nimbus cloud.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Yeah, it was strange to find out that she had no SSE role whatsover, even harder to believe that Sonic, who we all know got added late still managed to get an ackward role in SSE, even though it really wasn't a role since Sakurai was pressed for time to actually give Sonic a decent role, as for Jiggs, it could very well mean she was either, the last character to be included or Sakurai just didn't care in a role for Jiggs, what I believe is that he was pressed on time since it was already due to be released in late 2007 anyway, but even then she still didn't get added which I find strange indeed.

Off-Topic question: Can you see my location, wii number??

Sadly, I think all three of the Bonus Characters could've been given roles. Well, Wolf isn't too hard, being a villain. The rest? They could be as good as Pit and Yoshi's. As for Sonic, while he didn't have a major role, he actually did something key. A fair last minute choice, really.

I can see all the stuff under your username you asked.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Hopefully Sakurai will take an initiative to ACTUALLY make a decent Adventure Mode, something in between Melee and Brawl, meaning have Melee's Adventure enviroments which consisted of Nintendo iconic areas and SSE's length, the plot however and the set-up weren't so good, also don't you think the 3DS will probably focus more on single player than it's Wii-U counterpart? I know the Wii-U will have it and can easily handle it but it occured to me since the 3DS will probably appeal to single player due to it not being a tradional multiplayer unless you are playing through Wi-Fi.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Hopefully Sakurai will take an initiative to ACTUALLY make a decent Adventure Mode, something in between Melee and Brawl, meaning have Melee's Adventure enviroments which consisted of Nintendo iconic areas and SSE's length, the plot however and the set-up weren't so good, also don't you think the 3DS will probably focus more on single player than it's Wii-U counterpart? I know the Wii-U will have it and can easily handle it but it occured to me since the 3DS will probably appeal to single player due to it not being a tradional multiplayer unless you are playing through Wi-Fi.

I hope both games are heavy on the multiplayer regardless. And yeah, I agree. That's why I preferred Melee's. I think they had the right idea with the SSE, but it wasn't implemented in a Nintendo-related way. I mean, they could've just made a Kirby game from it and outside of a few enemies/characters(like Ganondorf), it would've been nearly the same...

Which is fairly sad. The 3DS version is supposed to have customizable content, so a customizable character is possible. Perhaps a Mii?

 

[SmashChu]

You're lucky Uprising comes out before E3, SheriffChu. You'll have some extra time to REFINE YOUR JUDGMENTS if need be.

...Also, suppose we don't get much of anything Smash related for E3. How would this effect this little PREDICTION ...game.

It wouldn't effect my roster. It's pretty much set. The only thing I didn't have was a 13th character and if I don't it's not a big deal. I have the information I need for characters now. The only thing E3 would change is new series which I'm not confident will happen.