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[Aurane]

I might have to start an official campaign AGAINST Victini for Smash 4.

I dislike the idea of that generic looking fire mouse in Smash for too many reasons to count on my fingers, and I find the fact that (apparently) a lot of people actually want it to be playable completely appalling.

Awesome. Go ahead and do that, and make ALOT of sense when u debate over it. T_T

@King Read the quoted, yes I'm speaking of Victini (who has more chances than Zoroark). I'm getting too old for this wave to wave nonesense -_- Skyrim, I'm calling... Pick up the phone.

 

[Berserker.]

Is it Victini you are referring to?

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*inhale**exhale**inhale**exhale**inhale**exhale**inhale**exhale*

LOOK AT THE QUOTE!

Errr.....

 

[Aurane]

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*inhale**exhale**inhale**exhale**inhale**exhale**inhale**exhale*

LOOK AT THE QUOTE!

Errr.....

I can answer for myself, thank you.

 

[OmegaXXII]

@The Real Gamer: Sad thing is is that alot of people actually wanted it playable and due to it's recent movie that came out in Japan, one could say that Victini is very likely, one could say Victini is fhe most probable choice, of course Zoroark stands in his way, maybe even Genesect, for all we know a 6th gen could get in if The Pokemon Company deemed it so, it's all a matter of preferance really.

All I want and expect is Mewtwo.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Awesome. Go ahead and do that, and make ALOT of sense when u debate over it. T_T

As a longtime and hardcore fan of the Pokemon series I'd MORE than gladly debate someone over Zoaroark vs. Victini.

Hell I'd even lobby for Genesect over Victini but I don't like Genesect's chances.

 

[OmegaXXII]

I'd like to see a debate, logical points since I don't believe Victini is unlikely at all, in the end it's mere preferance, I'm biased towards Zoroark, that I will admit, but I won't deny his chances as well.

 

[Aurane]

As a longtime and hardcore fan of the Pokemon series I'd MORE than gladly debate someone over Zoaroark vs. Victini.

ur debate sux alrdy.

 

[Berserker.]

I might have to start an official campaign AGAINST Victini for Smash 4.

I dislike the idea of that generic looking fire mouse in Smash for too many reasons to count on my fingers, and I find the fact that (apparently) a lot of people actually want it to be playable completely appalling.

Meh.

I'm not a Victini fan anyway (I'm not even a pokemon fan).

I can answer for myself, thank you.

I was talking to Omega

ur debate sux alrdy.

Uhh... It's already.

Also, please avoid doing things like this

 

[The Real Gamer]

ur debate sux alrdy.

Enlighten me.

 

[Aurane]

Meh.

I'm not a Victini fan anyway (I'm not even a pokemon fan).

@Asage: I was talking to Omega

And he was talking 2 me

@gamer Ur debate alrdy shows ur wanting not facts which no one is interested 2 c

 

[OmegaXXII]

Let's see it.

 

[The Real Gamer]

@gamer Ur debate alrdy shows ur wanting not facts which no one is interested 2 c

Can I get a translator for this guy, please?

What on earth is he trying to say?

 

[OmegaXXII]

ur debate sux alrdy.

Hehe, this reminded me of Lord Hokage indeed, he always used this point to argue Megaman.

 

[Aurane]

Can I get a translator for this guy, please?

What on earth is he trying to say?

That's what I might say to ur logic, but neways what I meant was that Your last comment about Victini not liable was about his structure, beiung a "Fire mouse". Ok, what about Pikachu and Kirby? Same deal there. Zoroark has chances, but Victini has more now, due to his new movies coming out. Zoroark is alrdy losing his luster, which wasn't really surprising.

I might have to start an official campaign AGAINST Victini for Smash 4.

I dislike the idea of that generic looking fire mouse in Smash for too many reasons to count on my fingers, and I find the fact that (apparently) a lot of people actually want it to be playable completely appalling.

It's all about u, isn't it?

 

[OmegaXXII]

I think what asage is saying is that you aren't presenting any facts or showing any points as to why Victini shouldn't get in and why you exclusively are choosing Zoroark.

I wish SSBFan were here, he could definetly give you some real solid points since he's the biggest Victini supporter here.

 

[Berserker.]

chances.

Since when can we determine this?

Let's see it.

..........

Omega, who are you talking to?

Ur debate alrdy shows ur wanting not facts which no one is interested 2 c

Victini being guaranteed is not a fact.

Nor is *insert any character even Little Mac here*

 

[Aurane]

I think what asage is saying is that you aren't presenting any facts or showing any points as to why Victini shouldn't get in and why you exclusively are choosing Zoroark.

I wish SSBFan were here, he could definetly give you some real solid points since he's the biggest Victini supporter here.

Read this:
http://limelight788.livejournal.com/2838.html
Directly from my Facebook page, made by SSBF

@Omega I didn't guarntee anything. Zoroark and Victini are tightly squeezed together for the rep lane.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Read this:
http://limelight788.livejournal.com/2838.html
Directly from my Facebook page, made by SSBF

Interesting indeed, have you checked out SSBFan's website where he has his Victini essay?

 

[Berserker.]

That's what I might say to ur logic, but neways what I meant was that Your last comment about Victini not liable was about his structure, beiung a "Fire mouse". Ok, what about Pikachu and Kirby? Same deal there. Zoroark has chances, but Victini has more now, due to his new movies coming out. Zoroark is alrdy losing his luster, which wasn't really surprising.



It's all about u, isn't it?

I think he's talking about your spelling.

Stop using "c" for "see" and "ur" for "your".

Also, PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS DEBATE PERSONALLY. IT'S ONLY HIS OPINION

 

[Aurane]

Interesting indeed, have you checked out SSBFan's website where he has his Victini essay?

Yes I have, which is why I made a Facebook.. lol.
He want's supporters? Facebook is the answer. But it seems I was wrong too lol

@beserker This is online. Get used to bad spelling, cause it's called internet talk. I alrdy stated I'm not personal about this.

 

[Thino]

I hope this thread gets archived for when Victini doesn't make it to SSB4

 

[Oasis_S]

Ffffell asleep.

Spoiler

Okay, let’s cut this frakin' cake. ​

Roster: Oasis, October 12, 2011

Mario Franchise: Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Yoshi, Wario
- BAM. You got it right. This is a good choice in my opinion. You opted out of adding Toad, Junior, or that Paper fool. You did the right thing in my book. 5/5 in this category.
- I will make a note about Wario reps real quick though. I think with a roster like this, you could have gotten away with it. I feel a Yoshi pick, while interesting is a poor choice all around, but Mona, or Syrup could be pulled off.

Donkey Kong Franchise: Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, King K. Rool
- Why not? You did well. I see no Cranky, and I see no Funky. I don’t see a Dixie either, but her and K. Rool are reall interchangeable IMO. You could have EITHER or both. You picked one over the other. Fine with me. 5/5 in my book.

LoZ Franchise: Link, Zelda/Sheik, Ganondorf, Toon Link
- Your choice to not add a newcomer is probably a good one, although you could have done it properly, in my opinion. What this comes down to for ME, is how Ganondorf and Toon Link end up playing. Without a new character, I feel a few slight changes to these two would do good in both keeping the series feeling fresh, and furthering the two away from their clone counterparts. You didn’t specify on these characters… so I’m going to give you a 4/5 for them.

Kirby Franchise: Kirby, King Dedede, Meta Knight
- Good boy. 5/5

Fire Emblem Franchise: Marth, Chrome, Roy
- Oasis my boy, why would you choose Chrome, a character that we know nothing about over Ike, a perfectly good character, outside of IkeSama. Why sir? I like the redhead, he’s cute. AND FOR THAT, I’ll give you a 3.5/5
- Chrome: Until we see how he works, I want him to be a cautionary add… I don’t trust his BLUE HAIR.

Pokemon Franchise (Me FAVE): Pikachu, Jiggypuff, Pokemon Trainer Red, Mewtwo, Victini
- Oh you know how subjective these choices can be sir. The loss of Lucario, and the gain of Victini and Mewtwo… Good move. Straight move. Easy move. Too easy. Not shaken up enough. I almost wish we got Zoroark over Victini. His attitude, and the way he carries himself would have added more. Victini is too happy. Like everyone in the game. Zoro has SAS. Okay, you get a 3.5/5 for playing it safe, but doing it well.

Mother & Metroid: Ness, Lucas, Samus, Ridley
- Good choices. 10/10

F-Zero & StarFox: Falcon, Samurai Goroh, Fox, Falco, Wolf
- You did it right. Despite the lack of Krystal. 10/10

Smaller franchises: IC’s G&W, ROB, Olimar, Pit, Medusa, Shulk, Isaac, Mach Rider, Saki, Little Mac, Takamaru, Mii
- Kay, my problems are with the choice to add Takamaru, AND Goroh. Why would you add two Katana weilders when you had other options? You had the option to add someone who doesn’t even use a sword, but you chose to pick two Katana weilders. Something to think about. Black Shadow, and Tom Nook are sad.
- The rest clear with me. Mach and Med are good pics IMO, Saki, Little Mac, Shulk, Mii and Isaac are all sound as well. 8/10

Third Parties: Sonic, Snake, Megaman
- Good boy. Played it smart. 5/5

Overall appeal: GOOD ROSTER. I do think you fell down a little with Chrome and Takamaru though. Chrome is SO up in the air, and you just chose similar playing characters, when people would arguably be happier with Tom Nook. Victini is a decent choice, but I think Zoroark would have helped heal the Lucario fans, and would have been a “cooler” character in general.

Oasis is a good cat. now, add up the fractions, and find the percent. That's your Shorts score! ;D

Mario:
I used to put Syrup on my rosters, BUT THAT IS SILLY.

DK:
I don't like the thought of having both K. Rool and Dixie. Rool should have priority since he would actually diversify the cast of DK characters, and after him Dixie just seems a little unnecessary. Maybe I underestimate her popularity. Still though, she's going to feel pretty similar to Diddy no matter what, so I don't think it would be much of a loss to exclude her.

LoZ:
YERP, I'm going to go ahead and predict the Ganondorf and Toon Link we get will further differentiate themselves from Falcon and Link. Though that's probably wishful thinking.

Fire Emblem:
FOR WHAT I BELIEVE MAKES A GOOD ROSTER, giving Ike's moveset to Chrome, and adding a unique Roy would be the best solution. You add a new face, keep what made Ike special, and you get Roy back. I'M GOING TO STICK TO IT... I think.

Pokeymanz:
FFFF now why'd you have to go and say that. My opinion on whether we get Zoroark or Victini changes by the week.

Star Fox:
I'M SORRY.

Smaller Franchises:
The Takamaru and Goroh BIT is a good point that I will be thinking about. I honestly don't see them playing too similar, though, so I wouldn't have a problem with it. I think they can co-exist just fine. Mach Rider is shameless bias, and Shulk I am pretty doubtful on. I know you didn't say anything about her, but I'll go ahead and say I think Palutena as Pit's Final Smash is perfectly ADEQUATE for her.

I'LL HAVE TO FIND MY SHORTS SCORE LATER.

 

[The Real Gamer]

That's what I might say to ur logic, but neways what I meant was that Your last comment about Victini not liable was about his structure, beiung a "Fire mouse". Ok, what about Pikachu and Kirby? Same deal there. Zoroark has chances, but Victini has more now, due to his new movies coming out. Zoroark is alrdy losing his luster, which wasn't really surprising.

You obviously have not yet grasped the concept of proper spelling or grammar... as well as the difference between a blatantly obvious (and biased) cheap shot as opposed to actual logic.

Do you really think my sole reasoning for not wanting it in is because it's a generic fire mouse? Common son.

I think what asage is saying is that you aren't presenting any facts or showing any points as to why Victini shouldn't get in and why you exclusively are choosing Zoroark.

I wish SSBFan were here, he could definetly give you some real solid points since he's the biggest Victini supporter here.

Thank you for the translation. As I just said I haven't even listed any facts yet, lol.

I know I'd be in the minority in terms of supporting Zoaroark over Victini but I'd gladly hold my ground.

My actual argument will have to come later because I have classes soon.

 

[Aurane]

I gtg get school work done. Great..

 

[OmegaXXII]

Yes I have, which is why I made a Facebook.. lol.
He want's supporters? Facebook is the answer. But it seems I was wrong too lol

Haha, indeed, I should definetly check it out, I'm actually leaning towards Victini thanks to his movie which actually puts him in a similar position that Lucario was during 2005's Brawl development.

 

[Berserker.]

Ffffell asleep.



Mario:
I used to put Syrup on my rosters, BUT THAT IS SILLY.

DK:
I don't like the thought of having both K. Rool and Dixie. Rool should have priority since he would actually diversify the cast of DK characters, and after him Dixie just seems a little unnecessary. Maybe I underestimate her popularity. Still though, she's going to feel pretty similar to Diddy no matter what, so I don't think it would be much of a loss to exclude her.

LoZ:
YERP, I'm going to go ahead and predict the Ganondorf and Toon Link we get will further differentiate themselves from Falcon and Link. Though that's probably wishful thinking.

Fire Emblem:
FOR WHAT I BELIEVE MAKES A GOOD ROSTER, giving Ike's moveset to Chrome, and adding a unique Roy would be the best solution. You add a new face, keep what made Ike special, and you get Roy back. I'M GOING TO STICK TO IT... I think.

Pokeymanz:
FFFF now why'd you have to go and say that. My opinion on whether we get Zoroark or Victini changes by the week.

Star Fox:
I'M SORRY.

Smaller Franchises:
The Takamaru and Goroh BIT is a good point that I will be thinking about. I honestly don't see them playing too similar, though, so I wouldn't have a problem with it. I think they can co-exist just fine. Mach Rider is shameless bias, and Shulk I am pretty doubtful on. I know you didn't say anything about her, but I'll go ahead and say I think Palutena as Pit's Final Smash is perfectly ADEQUATE for her.

I'LL HAVE TO FIND MY SHORTS SCORE LATER.

I'll leave brosis to this pokemon deb--- argument

MACH SPEED! Zoooooooooooooooooooooooooom

 

[OmegaXXII]

I hope this thread gets archived for when Victini doesn't make it to SSB4

Hehe, typical furry fan.

 

[Oasis_S]

I'll leave brosis to this pokemon deb--- argument

MACH SPEED! Zoooooooooooooooooooooooooom

Victini and Zoroark are both too slow.

Deoxys confirmed.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Wow, seems Oasis and Shorts make a great tag team.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Victini and Zoroark are both too slow.

Deoxys confirmed.

Unless Zoroark transformed into Deoxys.

In all seriousness though generation 5 will get a rep so Deoxys can't really be in the same debate as those two.

Deoxys is a long shot but it would be pretty awesome to see in Smash.

 

[OmegaXXII]

He could use illusion y'know, have two for one!!

 

[Metal Overlord]

Launch approves of Deoxys fer Sm4sh..

 

[Berserker.]

Victini and Zoroark are both too slow.

Deoxys confirmed.

For some reason, I like Mach Rider especially when you're around

Wow, seems Oasis and Shorts make a great tag team.

If only Iblis was here.

Why is everyone talking about Deoxys all of a sudden? Is it because I posted him as one of the 4th pokemon characters?

 

[OmegaXXII]

I don't want Deoxys, sadly, I want Mewtwo instead, yeah, come at me!!

 

[Oasis_S]

@The Real Gamer: Touche...

It is a shame though. Deoxys is the only Pokemon I would actually WANT. Aside from Mewtwo.

Whether Zoroark or Victini is playable, I don't really care, BUT IF IT'S FOR THE SAKE OF HAVING THE RIGHT PREDICTION... I guess I can't just sit on my hands. Though I'll just be flipping and flopping all over the place. :V

 

[Metal Overlord]

I don't want Deoxys, sadly, I want Mewtwo instead, yeah, come at me!!

I approve of both Mewtwo and Deoxys which means so do you, honey.

 

[OmegaXXII]

For some reason, I like Mach Rider especially when you're around

If only Iblis was here.

Why is everyone talking about Deoxys all of a sudden? Is it because I posted him as one of the 4th pokemon characters?

I think so, he isn't likely, people are bound to get dissaponted like they did in Brawl, I'm sorry but I just don't see it likely.

Also, these are the teams!

Toise & Starphoenix
Oasis & Shorts
Iblis & Kuma & Berserker
Metal & y.toonlink

 

[The Real Gamer]

If Deoxys had any good shot at getting into Smash it was in Brawl while generation 3 was somewhat relevant, but unfortunately it never made it.

 

[Berserker.]

IBLIS. Post now. Lets talk about Snake's DACFT

 

[OmegaXXII]

I approve of both Mewtwo and Deoxys which means so do you, honey.

Whatever you say Launch.

For some reason, I think you are actually Launch.