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Maybe I should rephrase my previous statement. What I probably should've said is that Sega should've spent a lot more time fixing up the glitches in Sonic 2006 before releasing it. If the company released that game some time AFTER Christmas 2006, things wouldn't have been so bleak.
And besides, I would like the fire starter represent the second-stage evolution instead of repeating the third-stage evolution. 
Are you referring to this guy? Sorry, but I haven't been too familiar with the Kid Icarus characters.Fact: Magnus from Kid Icarus will be in the new game. He was purposely created by Sakurai just so he can put him in the new game.
Magnus over Palutena and Medusa? I don't think so. It is like adding Rosalina over Toad and Bowser Jr. just because she is new. If Palutena and Medusa are playable in SSB4, then it would be fine for Magnus to be playable in SSB4... we wouldn't add Toad as a playable character in Melee without adding Bowser and Peach as playable characters, right? The same principle applies here with Magnus, Palutena, and Medusa.Fact: Magnus from Kid Icarus will be in the new game. He was purposely created by Sakurai just so he can put him in the new game.
Definetly Palutena and Medusa, seriously they have a major role in the series already, besides we DON'T need another sword user, we have enough as it is, so no.Fact: Magnus from Kid Icarus will be in the new game. He was purposely created by Sakurai just so he can put him in the new game.
Being female does not offer a character an unique style of play unless she shoots blood and milk from her body.Definetly Palutena and Medusa, seriously they have a major role in the series already, besides we DON'T need another sword user, we have enough as it is, so no.
@Arcatenik: Hmm.. I guess Caeda would offer a different style of play, not only is she female, but also unique and different from the tiring cast of sword users we've been given from the series.
Yes you can. My roster is on Pg. 65. One thing it note, even thought I mentioned it before, I removed Samurai Goroh and Ray MK III from my wish.Being female does not offer a character an unique style of play unless she shoots blood and milk from her body.
But yes, Caeda would have an unique style of play because she uses a lance instead of a sword... and she could use her winged horse as part of her Final Smash.
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Well, I suppose I could review your roster/wishlist...
Lol, I didn't mean it that wayBeing female does not offer a character an unique style of play unless she shoots blood and milk from her body.
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not a chance, Mewtwo is the bigger, better one of the two, he is more popular than Lucario in most levels.
What makes Mewtwo, Lucario, and Meowth as likely as Jigglypuff to get in? Mewtwo was dropped from Melee due to terrible standing in tiers and either one of these:"OmegaXVII said:
No we don't need Magnus in SSB4. Medusa and Palutena are much more likely to be in the game, especially Medusa.WhatIsRaizen said:
Definitely more of a wishlist then a prediction as you stated. There are quite a few characters on your list that doesn't really stand much of a chance of getting in, but some good character prediction in return. Not the best I've seen and you do need to work on it, but there have been much, much worse.Okay, here is my revised semi-realistic SSB4 roster / wish list as of today (June 16, 2011)
Main characters from the classic Mario games
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Toad
Bowser
Marioverse main characters
Donkey Kong
Not really sure about us getting Diddy Kong/Dixie Kong as a team, although I do support the idea and it could happen, so I'll accept it.Diddy Kong / Dixie KongYoshiKing K. Rool
Wario
Zeldaverse main characters and Takamaru
I highly doubt we'll be having Takamaru right off the bat. He'll probably be an unlockable.Link
Zelda / Sheik
GanondorfTingleFor god sake, NO TINGLE! Seriously, it would be too awkard to include and I believe his hate in America is enough to keep him from being anymore then an Assist Trophy. The only good Zelda rep is Girahim and he doesn't stand much of a chance.
Takamaru
Main characters of Kid Icarus and Metroid I don't think we're going to be seeing three Kid Icarus rep. He'll surely try to get two in, but three is kind of overdoing it.
Pit
Palutena
Samus / Zero Suit SamusMedusa
Ridley
Classic Nintendo characters of the 1980's
I don't think we'll be seeing any newcomers that are "retro" aside from Takamaru, and even he is debatable (His status as a retro character, not his likelihood).
Ice ClimbersMr. Game & Watch
Little MacR.O.B.
Dog
Main characters of Kirby and Star Fox Where's Falco? He stands a much stronger chance of staying in then Wolf.
Kirby
Meta Knight
King Dedede
Fox
Wolf
Other Nintendo characters from the 1990's and 2000's
Will probably not happen. I highly doubt they'll consider adding him in the game. He is too unpopular and will not gain sufficient fan support to be in SSB4.
OlimarCaptain Falcon
StarfyIsa
Muddy Mole
Pokemon This is bad. I highly doubt we'll be seeing Pokemon Trainer gain new Pokemons nor did they add the latest generation in Brawl. Regardless of how much you dislike Jigglypuff, she is part of the original twelve and I highly doubt they'll consider taking Jigglypuff off just so they'll put in Meowth, who wasn't even considered for SSB64. I'm also not so sure about Mewtwo coming back to take the place of Lucario.
Snivy / Pignite / Samurott
Pikachu
MeowthMewtwoZoroark
Main characters from Nintendo's RPG franchises Ike will almost certainly not be replaced. We have yet to see a starter get the axe from a game and I doubt it'll start now. If there are only two Fire Emblem reps, it will be Marth and Ike. Also, why do you think Marth will be available from right off the bat? You should also consider the fact that Matthew could very well be 3DS exclusive since his only games have been on handheld and that Issac also stands a good chance of getting him, with him being Assist Trophy and all.
Marth
CaedaLucasNess
Matthew
Third-party characters and Mii Not sure about Mii's, but I wouldn't count on us getting a fourth third-party character, even if it's in the realm of possibility. I doubt that Slime will be in, or any third-party characters aside from Sonic, Snake, or Mega Man.
Mii
SonicSnakeMega ManSlime
We start with 28 slots and unlock 22 more slots for a total of 50 slots. There are 55 playable characters, including transformations in total. It has 32 veterans, including transformations and 23 newcomers, including transformations. I know it's not going to happen... that's why it is also my wish list.
Little Mac is in my roster, but he is not in the retro section because he has a game for the Wii and as such, doesn't qualify as retro anymore.Pieman0920 said:
- How is Mewtwo a clone of Yoshi and Ness? If anything, Lucario is a clone of Mewtwo from Melee (Although I don't consider him as such).Steam said:
Zoroark's inclusion on most people's lists isn't a response to popularity, but rather that he had a movie come out in Japan a while ago. This falls in line with the idea that Lucario getting his movie was the reason why he was in Brawl (though the circumstances of the 4th gen's inclusion in Brawl are completely different than anything that comes from the 5th gen due to proximity issues.) So following this rather poor line of logic though, Victini is the next in line, becaue once Smash 4 actually starts production, Victini will have two movies come out. That being said...Victini has two movies coming out instead of one, is the director of BW's favorite Pokemon, and has seen more widespread use than Zoroark. Overall, I'd say he's more popular.
Alright, first of all like steam mentioned, Lucario DIDN'T replace Mewtwo, there's theory that Pokemon Trainer did, also have you actually ever played with Lucario and Mewtwo??!
- There's a theory that Mewtwo was replaced by Lucario because Lucario appeared in a movie and as such, was the primary candidate to replace Mewtwo.Alright, first of all like steam mentioned, Lucario DIDN'T replace Mewtwo, there's theory that Pokemon Trainer did, also have you actually ever played with Lucario and Mewtwo??!
If you have you would have noticed differences between them, The Shadow Ball move is totally irrelavent to his replacement.
As for Jigglypuff, as seen in the Brawl files she "barely" managed to get in, which means she wasn't top priority and didn't have a "possible" replacement. Meowth on the other hand has seen a pattern with his latest appearance as a Pokeball item, and ask yourself, why would Sakurai even bother with a first gen pokemon if there were tons of 3rd and 4th gens to be represented?
@ steam: yea, I read your post about Mewtwo in 2003 etc...
While that may be true among the newer generation of Pokemon fans, if he were to be brought back he would surely capture some needed attention, but I do agree with your point, the next successor being Zoroark/Vivi would definely change all that if indeed Mewtwo or Lucario were scrapped for good.
because most of mewtwo's attacks are with his tail. he's floaty and hits with almost always his tail. sounds like yoshi. he also has psychic attacks and throws with telekinesis.... Lucario doesn't do that. Lucario uses mainly fighting/martial arty kinda stuff.
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I don't see how Mewtwo's playing style is anything like Yoshi just because they both have a tail. Mewtwo's tail is considerably larger so he can space much better, though some of Yoshi's tail attacks have much more power like his up-air compared to Mewtwo's up-air.
Ness and Mewtwo are definitely not alike at all, regardless of the fact that they use psychic abilities. How they use them are clearly different.
I know lmao. but lucario and mewtwo are much less similar than yoshi and ness.
Alright, well you see Meowth has had a trend, he first appeared in SSB64, absent in Melee, but it was suggested that he would return therefore appeared in Brawl once again as a Pokeball item due to popularity and fan request, what does this mean? Possible consideration, I'm not completly supporting the fact that he will make the roster but does have a chance indeed, there's no denying it, and well just like Charizard, he got upgraded, I don't see why Meowth wouldn't be as well, given if he has a bigger demand that is.
someone had said something about how lucario was a clone of mewtwo or something along those lines
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I main waluigi in mario party. don't hate.
You main the essance of pure evil. I actually enjoy almost every character but him and Duck hunt Dog. Though characters do get under my skin (like Zoroark) for various reasons. I still like him though. His fanboys not so much. I hate the idea of WE MUST HAVE A HUMANOID POKEMON.
Waluigi haz dat rose. he also does the ****ing thriller when he gets an eagle in Mario golf.
Everyone says that. But I hate people who just keep the first generation and the latest. Soul silver is still relevant, and Fire Red is not. Hence the new PT. Plus I think Pokemon Trainer should switch every time. Pokemon is a majorly fickle franchise. Victini is more interesting than Zoroark. He has the ability to use "Shadow Ball" instead of Aura, and just basically copy Lucario. I don't see how Illusion could work in smash anyhow. I picked Deoxys because he's probably the most popular third series. He could be swapped out for any other popular pokemon though. Everyone needs to quit whinig when a Pokemon gets cut. If you like Pichu, Mewtwo, or Lucario play Melee/Brawl.
the problem is the latest gen is more popular than 3rd gen. deoxys was... never really that popular anyways.