New DK upB tech

[ShadowLink84]

The angle required would limit it to a handful of stages. As nix mentioned those are probably the only ones you could pull it off on. I've tried for some time to get Sonic's to work on flat land, if I manage t get it to work, Dk should be able t do it too since his flying kong has a lesser angle. @_@ Maybe its cause of the lesser angle he may not be able to do it though. @_@

 

[Smasher89]

Does this go through snakes granades?

 

[itsthebigfoot]

Does this go through snakes granades?

everything means everything

 

[Taeran]

There's some places on banned stages that you can do it too (I think, at least from what I've read here) such as Hyrule, New Pork City, and the crater Dialga/Palkia makes in the stage on Spear Pillar. There's also some places you may be able to do it on legal stages that haven't been mentioned. What about the side of the house on Onett? Pirate Ship has some tilt, but I think it's in the wrong direction. What about the fin of Corneria? The engine?

Just some ideas.

 

[itsthebigfoot]

That depends on how you look at it. Something that is so very limited does not appeal to me.


yes but it would easily be soled if the opponent just moves back, I don't think anyone really tries to hit D out of his flying kong to begin with considering it has little lag if he finishes on the ground.

he is invincible for a bit after the upb, he has carry over invin frames, he gets either free hits, or complete stage control back. not to mention the psychological effects it will have, they can no longer pressure you at the ledge on those stages (brinstar, yoshis and pictochat being the 3 legal ones) meaning you're officially free to get back on whenever you want.

I'm so jealous....I wish Kirby had decent ATs...

Let's see...Kirby also has wall infinites (kinda) with dtilt and possibly neutral A (though I've had people SDI through me last two times I tried that so I was sad)...

What the crap is a Sakurai combo? Why don't I know what this is? I'm scared...

Well...Kirby also has 9 punches and reverse punches. >_>
Though I'm not exactly sure what reverse punches are, unless you're talking about B-reversal, which every character has

Sakurai combo = headbutt to punch, posted on the site by sakurai, so named after sakurai

not just b reversal, he can reverse it while charging to punch behind him when it looks like he's facing the other way, it's like ganon/falcons turn around, only quicker. you can use it with b reversals for a 360 punch

Did some more testing, here's how the invincibility works.

When you are both flashing and attacking you will go threw projectiles, and beat out most attacks. However, you also stay invincible for a little while after you stop spinning, during this time you are invincible to everything. I just went threw both Marths Fsmash, and a Warlock Punch with this.

invincibility = you win, they cannot harm you, any invincible attack will go through, so to all those who clanked, you timed it wrong, unless it clanked and then continued going through

The beginning of the up b, it seems that the invincibility is just starting although it can still clank and or be out prioritized. It clanked but usually it was with multi hit attacks, in this case it was the falco and his multi hit jab.

When it got out prioritized it was with metaknights up b. Keep in mind that all of this happened when the up b first started (Invincibility first is starting up)

After the first few frames of the up b however it does seem as though nothing clanked or out prioritized the up b. The up b went though all multi hits, projectiles and attacks.

the upb invin frames are slightly after the start, so when it lost, it lost because it wasn't invincible yet

 

[highandmightyjoe]

invincibility = you win, they cannot harm you, any invincible attack will go through, so to all those who clanked, you timed it wrong, unless it clanked and then continued going through

Believe me this thing is weird. You know you timed it right when you start flashing. I have been hit with certain attacks that did knock me out of this, except during certain parts of the move. I tested with Marth's Fsmash and he was able to hit me with it, even when I timed it correctly, except during the last part of the move.

 

[itsthebigfoot]

after much internal debate i feel this should have its own name

I'm gonna call it the rofl copter

 

[daisho]

I like FuSpin (mixture of confusion and spinning kong) "Yeah I just FuSpinned your *** *****"

 

[itsthebigfoot]

meh, fuspin is a bit too.....

 

[Nokonoko]

Ahaha, the “F*** You” spin.

I vote ROFLcopter. Justify it by making at acronym for “Resistant, Obfuscating, Flying o’er Ledge Copter”.

 

[itsthebigfoot]

resistant obstacle fighting ledge copter

roflcopter

 

[GimR]

I vote for InvinciCopter.

Oh wait, I just made that up

 

[PD4FR]

LOL, Brinstar is now an even better counterpick for DK.

 

[Master Raven]

This is strange. I can do this consistently on the left-end of Yoshi's, but I can't do it at all on the right. What's up with that?

 

[TheHulk]

Yesterday, I decided to work on this technique. For some reason, I cannot do this technique consistently or more than once on the left-end of Yoshi's. So I worked on the right all day and got it 50 times in a row. I'm going to stick to the right to do this technique when I'm in a tournament match.

 

[Master Raven]

Yeah lol Hulk and I did some testing together over wifi and we do well enough on the opposite ends >_>

 

[TheHulk]

I managed to apply this technique in my game when laddering last night on AIB. Let me tell you, I'm a monster on this stage! I did this technique consistently and was being very predictable when my opponent, a snake mainer was at high percent. He was near the ledge. For the first two times, I "let" him attack my UP B from the ledge with no invic. Then the third time, I was too "predictable" with my ledge game on the right. I applied this technique and surprised my opponent. His up tilt was nothing lmao and then I used front smash to get the win. Good finding!

 

[Nokonoko]

The same thing happened to me — you practise it on one end and it becomes muscle memory, but reversing the input requires a lot more conscious thought.

Remember:
• Stick DOWN (lightly);
• Stick INTO stage (strong) & JUMP at the same time; and
• UPB at the right moment.

 

[highandmightyjoe]

I recommend not focusing on the timing, but just watch the character instead. When DK's feet are about even with the stage is when you start your upB. That's how I learned it and I do it pretty consistently on both sides.

 

[Four Leaf]

During an intense match, maybe even a 2v2 you don't have time to just watch only DK. I recommend making this muscle memory. I learned it on the left side and I didn't have to practice at all for the right. Just know how far you have to drop down, when to jump, and when to up B. MUSCLE MEMORY ONRY IMO

 

[DKKountry]

So pretty much its like sliding across the stage with your can of whoopass open?

Excellent!

 

[Kalm]

We should call this AT the Mach Tornado.

For obvious reasons.

 

[Ragnar0k]

Where does this work on Brinstar?

 

[TheNix]

Where does this work on Brinstar?

On any slant while jumping up through the stage, I would assume. I haven't really perfected it there.

I enjoy doing it on the right side of the ship on Rainbow Cruise, though.

 

[Ragnar0k]

Yeah I found the RC ship one on accident after I found you could do it on yoshi's and pictochat.

 

[thrillagorilla]

A few quick questions...

If DK is flashing, that means that you did it correctly, right? I was testing this out today, and I got hit out of it while flashing by a few moves about mid-way through the up-b. It clanked with most everything, but constantly got out prioritized by Ike's F-smash, Ganon's Rev. Warlock Punch, DK's 9-punch and a few others I don't remember off the top of my head. Is there a way to do the move where the invincibility doesn't carry over even if DK is flashing, or does it simply not contain invincibility during those frames, just high priority?

 

[B!squick]

Cool discovery. Any chance it works for Bowser? His Up-B is very similar.

Was this ever confirmed or denied? I forgot to check back on this topic and I don't feel like reading through all those posts, lol.

 

[TheNix]

A few quick questions...

If DK is flashing, that means that you did it correctly, right? I was testing this out today, and I got hit out of it while flashing by a few moves about mid-way through the up-b. It clanked with most everything, but constantly got out prioritized by Ike's F-smash, Ganon's Rev. Warlock Punch, DK's 9-punch and a few others I don't remember off the top of my head. Is there a way to do the move where the invincibility doesn't carry over even if DK is flashing, or does it simply not contain invincibility during those frames, just high priority?

I keep wanted to do more testing with this but I keep forgetting.

Some moves just seem to work and I don't know why. ZSS's forward+b also hits me out of my up+b every time. It's very strange.

 

[THEND]

Good find, I will try this.

 

[powuh_of_PIE]

A few quick questions...

If DK is flashing, that means that you did it correctly, right? I was testing this out today, and I got hit out of it while flashing by a few moves about mid-way through the up-b. It clanked with most everything, but constantly got out prioritized by Ike's F-smash, Ganon's Rev. Warlock Punch, DK's 9-punch and a few others I don't remember off the top of my head. Is there a way to do the move where the invincibility doesn't carry over even if DK is flashing, or does it simply not contain invincibility during those frames, just high priority?

I think the only true invincibility gained is during the grounded up+B's ending lag. The rest of the grounded up+B doesn't appear to have changed, it seems to still be following normal ground move priority rules.

 

[Ragnar0k]

I think the only true invincibility gained is during the grounded up+B's ending lag. The rest of the grounded up+B doesn't appear to have changed, it seems to still be following normal ground move priority rules.

Not for me. Mine is invincible.

 

[thrillagorilla]

Was this ever confirmed or denied? I forgot to check back on this topic and I don't feel like reading through all those posts, lol.

I tried it out with Bowser, and I couldn't get it to work. The initial pop up that Bowser does with up-b mid-air seems to keep it from working the same way. It may work on hills like Yoshi's (melee), the fin on Corneria and things like that, but I don't think it would work on stage edges like Yoshi's (brawl) and Picto.

@ RagnarOk

It's getting invincibility all the way through? I wonder what I'm doing wrong...

 

[B!squick]

I tried it out with Bowser, and I couldn't get it to work. The initial pop up that Bowser does with up-b mid-air seems to keep it from working the same way. It may work on hills like Yoshi's (melee), the fin on Corneria and things like that, but I don't think it would work on stage edges like Yoshi's (brawl) and Picto.

Lame. T_T Is Bowser destined to have only 2 techs? Ah well. UpB OoS is pretty **** enough I guess. ^.^

 

[itsthebigfoot]

I think the only true invincibility gained is during the grounded up+B's ending lag. The rest of the grounded up+B doesn't appear to have changed, it seems to still be following normal ground move priority rules.

get better at it

 

[daisho]

Have we officially confirmed that it is invincible throughout?

I'm pretty sure i clanked with a few attacks.

 

[thrillagorilla]

I haven't been able to get it to be invincible throughout yet. Has anyone else done more testing?

 

[ook]

I think it's always invincible (you can't get hurt) but since the hitbox is out, it can still clank with stuff. Except at the end when the hitbox ends.



So it IS invincible... but the invincibility goes away if the attack clanks with something.

 

[Ragnar0k]

Occasionally I'll mess up and not get the invincibility but still be flashing because I have a punch fully charged. It's a different kind of flash though but I think that's what people are getting confused with.

 

[Ragnar0k]

lol I just saw myself do this in a video from early December. I did it on accident way before it was discovered.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k4Ga2m2Zk0

that's the video if anyone is interested.

 

[TheHulk]

LOLOL no one cares lmaoo