New Characters for Project M Discussion Thread (Voting Closed)

[ZeruSlayer]

Christ, don't make me feel old like that.

I would LOVE a taunt where the Move hand waggles its finger at the screen or does the peace sign. It would be pretty trolly haha

Edit: There is also another gesture the hand could do that's quite funny, but would up this game's ranking to M in a millisecond

Lol, sorry about that . I never really considered taunts but I'm all for this

 

[F. Blue]

Yes, four Fire Emblem characters is too many.

More important Nintendo series that have fewer reps: Donkey Kong, Metroid.

This applies to Smash 4 and Project M.

 

[TimeSmash]

Yes, four Fire Emblem characters is too many.

More important Nintendo series that have fewer reps: Donkey Kong, Metroid.

This applies to Smash 4 and Project M.

Also Golden Sun which has zero reps.

 

[ZeruSlayer]

Yes, four Fire Emblem characters is too many.

More important Nintendo series that have fewer reps: Donkey Kong, Metroid.

This applies to Smash 4 and Project M.

If you can explain to me how Donkey Kong, a game that is overshadowed by it's counterpart Mario (mainly the Super Mario series) is far more deserving than a unique franchise like Fire Emblem then maybe I can take you seriously.

 

[Cool Blue]

If you can explain to me how Donkey Kong, a game that is overshadowed by it's counterpart Mario (mainly the Super Mario series) is far more deserving than a unique franchise like Fire Emblem then maybe I can take you seriously.

Oh dear.
This will not end well.

 

[ZeruSlayer]

Oh dear.
This will not end well.

One thing I hate is posts that have no backbone to it. If he can't explain himself, every post he sends is hot air. This is his last chance as far as I'm concerned before I ignore all his posts and label him as a troll

 

[Shin F.]

If you can explain to me how Donkey Kong, a game that is overshadowed by it's counterpart Mario (mainly the Super Mario series) is far more deserving than a unique franchise like Fire Emblem then maybe I can take you seriously.

Seriously? Seriously? I hope you're joking. I don't even know if I can take you seriously after this. I don't agree with everything F. Blue says, but this is ridiculous.
Edit:

Spoiler

One thing I hate is posts that have no backbone to it.

I guess since you hate posts without reasons even if the reason is obvious, I'll explain it.

Every series is overshadowed by Mario. Literally every game series in existence. It's the single best-selling franchise in the world. Pokemon is outshined. Zelda. Sonic. Final Fantasy. FIRE EMBLEM. None of them can touch it. Saying Donkey Kong isn't worth more reps because of this is like saying the game should just be Super Mario Fighting.

And if we're gonna talk about overshadowing, DK far outshines Fire Emblem. Fire Emblem has had exactly one game which has broken a million. All told from what I've been able to find, the entire series has sold just less than 7 million in total. That's nothing next to Donkey Kong's 64 million.

 

[F. Blue]

If you can explain to me how Donkey Kong, a game that is overshadowed by it's counterpart Mario (mainly the Super Mario series) is far more deserving than a unique franchise like Fire Emblem then maybe I can take you seriously.

Get back to me when Ice Cube writes a song with the lyrics "It's on, like Robin-Chrom".

 

[Cool Blue]

One thing I hate is posts that have no backbone to it. If he can't explain himself, every post he sends is hot air. This is his last chance as far as I'm concerned before I ignore all his posts and label him as a troll

Jeez, I've barely ever interacted with you. Where did this come from?

As for my post, I was talking about how you blatantly said that Donkey Kong does not need any more reps and that Super Mario is better than it. While I personally have never played any Donkey Kong Country games, I've heard from MANY people that DKC is one of the best platforming series of all time, and while it is similar to Mario, the level of quality is much higher in Donkey Kong.

 

[ZeruSlayer]

Seriously? Seriously? I hope you're joking. I don't even know if I can take you seriously after this.

Damn it Shin. You ruined everything . I purposefully said that so he can give the obvious answer of the series being more iconic but he's sitting twiddling his thumbs. Anyways, he failed the test so he's not worth me replying to anything he says

Jeez, I've barely ever interacted with you. Where did this come from?

As for my post, I was talking about how you blatantly said that Donkey Kong does not need any more reps and that Super Mario is better than it. While I personally have never played any Donkey Kong Country games, I've heard from MANY people that DKC is one of the best platforming series of all time, and while it is similar to Mario, the level of quality is much higher in Donkey Kong.

That post was regarding F. Blue. It wasn't anything to do with you. Sorry if it came off as insulting you. Also see above post.

 

[Shin F.]

Damn it Shin. You ruined everything . I purposefully said that so he can give the obvious answer of the series being more iconic but he's sitting twiddling his thumbs. Anyways, he failed the test so he's not worth me replying to anything he says

Well, that's a relief. I thought that all the Smash 4 debate / hype had fried your brain. But really, why did you want him to give an answer to such an obvious question? Not really understanding the thought processes here.

 

[Cool Blue]

That post was regarding F. Blue. It wasn't anything to do with you. Sorry if it came off as insulting you. Also see above post.

Oh, okay. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

[ZeruSlayer]

Well, that's a relief. I thought that all the Smash 4 debate / hype had fried your brain. But really, why did you want him to give an answer to such an obvious question?

That's just about it. It was an obvious question which should bring about an obvious answer. All I get from him is talk with not a hint of reason to back it up like his word is absolute which irritates me. The fact that he can't defend the franchise he likes shows how spineless he is or how ignorant he is about his own decisions. His posts have no backbone and neither does he.

 

[F. Blue]

That's just about it. It was an obvious question which should bring about an obvious answer. All I get from him is talk with not a hint of reason to back it up like his word is absolute which irritates me. The fact that he can't defend the franchise he likes shows how spineless he is or how ignorant he is about his own decisions. His posts have no backbone and neither does he.

Dude I answered the question, scroll up.

Edit: Also this isn't a live chatroom, don't get offended if I don't respond to questions immediately.

 

[alex6309]

+1/2 Funky Kong

He's hip
he's cool
...Yeah

Stuff

 

[ZeruSlayer]

Dude I answered the question, scroll up.

Edit: Also this isn't a live chatroom, don't get offended if I don't respond to questions immediately.

Your first post was stupid for lack of a better word. If you didn't post anything from the beginning then sure you would have an argument but since you posted that waste of text you had no intention of answering my question. I'm offended not by your speed, I'm offended by your lack of reasoning in your posts that requires reasoning. When you say something seriously be prepared to back it up, that's all I have to say to you.

+1/2 Funky Kong

He's hip
he's cool
...Yeah

Stuff

I'm not sure if Funky Kong is a trophy :/. Nvm he is

 

[CaptainKirby]

I'm surprised actually that King Boo has hardly gotten any recognition as far as newcomer potential goes. I could see him having a really versatile moveset, interesting playstyle, and definitive combat system with illusions, transformations, dark magic, and so on. He's basically Luigi's Bowser, and he has some decent notoriety, as far as popularity goes, to boot, with him showing up in a plethora of main games (including being the final boss of two), spin-offs, and sports titles... Plus, it'd be nice to throw in another more deep-rooted villain into the mix, in my opinion.

Not sure how others would feel about this (especially with having another Mario character, essentially), though. I just think that he could be a very stand-out character, and an unexpected one at that, but eh, whatcha gonna do.

 

[F. Blue]

Your first post was stupid for lack of a better word. If you didn't post anything from the beginning then sure you would have an argument but since you posted that waste of text you had no intention of answering my question. I'm offended not by your speed, I'm offended by your lack of reasoning in your posts that requires reasoning. When you say something seriously be prepared to back it up, that's all I have to say to you.

I did back it up, but it looks like I'll have to explain the joke.

Get back to me when Ice Cube writes a song with the lyrics "It's on, like Robin-Chrom".*

*Donkey Kong is iconic enough that Ice Cube name-dropped him in one of his songs. Fire Emblem can't hope to achieve that level of notoriety.

 

[ZeruSlayer]

*Donkey Kong is iconic enough that Ice Cube name-dropped him in one of his songs. Fire Emblem can't hope to achieve that level of notoriety.

Thanks for the explanation. Now what you said actually makes sense now. Sorry for the misunderstanding, carry on with whatever it was you were doing.

I'm surprised actually that King Boo has hardly gotten any recognition as far as newcomer potential goes. I could see him having a really versatile moveset, interesting playstyle, and definitive combat system with illusions, transformations, dark magic, and so on. He's basically Luigi's Bowser, and he has some decent notoriety, as far as popularity goes, to boot, with him showing up in a plethora of main games (including being the final boss of two), spin-offs, and sports titles... Plus, it'd be nice to throw in another more deep-rooted villain into the mix, in my opinion.

Not sure how others would feel about this (especially with having another Mario character, essentially), though. I just think that he could be a very stand-out character, and an unexpected one at that, but eh, whatcha gonna do.

This is a shot in the dark kind of character but I think it can't be incorcporated in Smash and for one reason it has no legs or feet (or anything resembling the two). The model of the character would seem really out of place compared to the rest of the cast...Just imagine King Boo doing a double jump, awkward right? Even though I wish for more villain representation, I don't think King Boo is the right fit in a Smash game.

 

[F. Blue]

Come to think of it, Kirby is also a more significant series than Fire Emblem. I expect Sakurai will probably introduce Bandana Dee, but it's something to think about with clone engine characters.

It goes back to Vigilante's point earlier. Priority should go to series that have no characters (Golden Sun, Advance Wars, Custom Robo, ect.), then to series that have too few, (DK, Metroid, F-Zero, ect.), and least to series that have plenty (Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, ect.).

Then think about factors such as popularity, workload, how cool Pichu is, and Smash 4 eligibility to make exceptions.

 

[i1y]

Why is that every time I think of the idea of Isaac being playable in a Smash game I wishfully think "Isaac summons Master Hand"?

 

[Anti Guy]

I'm surprised actually that King Boo has hardly gotten any recognition as far as newcomer potential goes. I could see him having a really versatile moveset, interesting playstyle, and definitive combat system with illusions, transformations, dark magic, and so on. He's basically Luigi's Bowser, and he has some decent notoriety, as far as popularity goes, to boot, with him showing up in a plethora of main games (including being the final boss of two), spin-offs, and sports titles... Plus, it'd be nice to throw in another more deep-rooted villain into the mix, in my opinion.

Not sure how others would feel about this (especially with having another Mario character, essentially), though. I just think that he could be a very stand-out character, and an unexpected one at that, but eh, whatcha gonna do.

You mean the guy who got the boot for Pink Gold Peach for Mario Kart 8?

 

[Cool Blue]

You mean the guy who got the boot for Pink Gold Peach for Mario Kart 8?

Pink Gold Peach for PM!

 

[Sour Supreme]

MK8's roster was bonkers.

Let's add every Koopaling, cut out series staples, and make metallic clones of two characters.

 

[Cool Blue]

MK8's roster was bonkers.

Let's add every Koopaling, cut out series staples, and make metallic clones of two characters.

And add another baby

 

[Saito]

I really hate when I don't get alerted to new posts on this thread.

oh well, 10 pages that I missed.

Yes, four Fire Emblem characters is too many.

More important Nintendo series that have fewer reps: Donkey Kong, Metroid.

This applies to Smash 4 and Project M.

2many4u

Just enough for this guy.

 

[ChronoBound]

Lucina has basically been confirmed to be a slightly different Marth clone (she doesn't have a particular sweet spot for her sword). I think if it weren't for the fact the character is an attractive female there would be lots of people raising hell about it, especially considering how the main thing people would bludgeon against Roy is that he was a Marth clone (ironically, he played completely different from Marth, and Project M differentiated him even further).

We are less than two months away from the Japanese release of Smash Bros. 4 3DS, so we will know the full roster very soon.

In regards to under-repped series, the only two that really come to mind are Metroid (Ridley) and DK (Dixie Kong or K. Rool). For franchises, its really just Golden Sun and Advance Wars that stick out the most sorely at this point (Xenoblade and Rhythm Heaven are both going to gain playable characters soon).

 

[ZeruSlayer]

Lucina has basically been confirmed to be a slightly different Marth clone (she doesn't have a particular sweet spot for her sword). I think if it weren't for the fact the character is an attractive female there would be lots of people raising hell about it, especially considering how the main thing people would bludgeon against Roy is that he was a Marth clone (ironically, he played completely different from Marth, and Project M differentiated him even further).

Tbh, I'm disappointed that Lucina is a Marth clone but the trailer made that obvious without the need of confirmation. I mean, it was obvious she was her own separate character, it would be like saying Toon Link has similar moves to Link therefore he is an alt of him which makes no sense. After the Toon Link reveal I hoped there would be no more clones since Sakurai initially said there wouldn't be any in Sm4sh but I guess old habits die hard. Oh well, inb4 people complain about the final roster because of Lucina

 

[ChronoBound]

Tbh, I'm disappointed that Lucina is a Marth clone but the trailer made that obvious without the need of confirmation. I

I knew Lucina was a Marth clone all along, what was disappointing was just how similar she is to Marth (or at least appears to me). FYI, the reason why Sakurai even selected Roy versus other possible FE characters for a clone of Marth was because he thought he was easily the most distinguishable option, especially with the fire properties to the Sword of Seals.

 

[ZeruSlayer]

FYI, the reason why Sakurai even selected Roy versus other possible FE characters for a clone of Marth was because he thought he was easily the most distinguishable option, especially with the fire properties to the Sword of Seals.

I didn't know that was Sakurai's intention for Roy but I would say he was successful in doing so. Even though Roy was a clone, he still retained his own level of flair that made players decide between him and Marth as a character or main. Lucina will seem a little hard to distinguish because, by the way Sakurai talked about her, she seems like an easy mode version of Marth.

 

[Saito]

I didn't know that was Sakurai's intention for Roy but I would say he was successful in doing so. Even though Roy was a clone, he still retained his own level of flair that made players decide between him and Marth as a character or main. Lucina will seem a little hard to distinguish because, by the way Sakurai talked about her, she seems like an easy mode version of Marth.

Once we get her in the hand and feel for ourselves the major differences, then we will be able to tell if she is able to be distinguished from.

Hell, Lucina might actually be better than marth because as the system currently is in smash 4, spacing tippers is not easy.

 

[Super_Primid]

I hate how I leave smash Boards for two days and then when I come back u find it saying that there are new 185 comments

 

[Super_Primid]

Spoiler

Primid for PM.

 

[Saito]

Spoiler

Primid for PM.

I don't know what I was expecting.

 

[DrinkingFood]

WHAT IF PLUSLE+MINUN COULD HAVE A SOLO OPTION BY HOLDING R LIKE ICS DO, AND A PICHU ALT COSTUME?

THEN PICHU MAINS(?) COULD BE HAPPY AND IT WOULDN'T BE A WASTE OF A SLOT

 

[Super_Primid]

I don't know what I was expecting.

Me either i just post the truth....... But tbh Lucina seems like she may be what Sakurai wanted Roy to be. A lower damage out putting clone but with mite agility.

WHAT IF PLUSLE+MINUN COULD HAVE A SOLO OPTION BY HOLDING R LIKE ICS DO, AND A PICHU ALT COSTUME?

THEN PICHU MAINS(?) COULD BE HAPPY AND IT WOULDN'T BE A WASTE OF A SLOT

That idea actually sounds rally great then all the fans would be pleased.

 

[PlateProp]

Once we get her in the hand and feel for ourselves the major differences, then we will be able to tell if she is able to be distinguished from.

Hell, Lucina might actually be better than marth because as the system currently is in smash 4, spacing tippers is not easy.

I feel like Lucina will play like a speedier Marth with even damage where ever she hits.

So like Roy if he was fast but no middle sword sweet spot.

 

[TimeSmash]

WHAT IF PLUSLE+MINUN COULD HAVE A SOLO OPTION BY HOLDING R LIKE ICS DO, AND A PICHU ALT COSTUME?

THEN PICHU MAINS(?) COULD BE HAPPY AND IT WOULDN'T BE A WASTE OF A SLOT

CAPS LOCK

 

[Super_Primid]

I feel like Lucina will play like a speedier Marth with even damage where ever she hits.

So like Roy if he was fast but no middle sword sweet spot.

Wouldn't quite say that because in the video her up b did NO knock back as to how Marth's does some knock back even at zero

 

[PlateProp]

Wouldn't quite say that because in the video her up b did NO knock back as to how Marth's does some knock back even at zero

It did lots of knockback, pretty sure Bowser was Koed or at least sent off screen, he just didnt start flying until Lucina was at the apex of her Dolphin Lsash

Edit: It's actuqlly just because Lucina travels half the distance that bowser flies that make sit look like it has no knockback