NCSU Smash Stacks - Round 9 @DUKE 10/30

[OmniOstrich]

For the first tornado, yes, he can get you away from the grenade with proper spacing.

For the tornado "combos" though, you can just pull a grenade and blow both characters up to stop it. I guess I was so used to being able to make it to the ground after 1 tornado, that it didn't really occur to me that a trade-off is actually a good idea a lot of the time.

A mix of MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) grenade-play and mashing the jump buttons has put an end to my tornado **** problem now though.

the thing is if the MK has too slow of a reaction your bull**** grenade pull landing lag makes it so you can PS the blast and therefore it isn't a trade, and you can possibly combo an aerial off the grenade explosion depending on %

 

[Gardevior]

There's landing lag on Snake's grenade pull?

 

[stingers]

no, it's actually the complete opposite of that. when you pull a grenade in midair (and hold onto it) you dont even incur normal landing lag. 0 frames, do anything instantaneously. it's how you can blow up your own mines safely (jump, pull a nade, hold r and fall on it)

 

[TheLastCacely]

im the best snake in this state, i will tell u if there is lag or not, u f'n nubs

 

[Gardevior]

Is there lag on it, best-snake-in-this-state?

 

[Stockfield]

No there isn't.

 

[Gardevior]

Thanks Stock. Now stop sandbagging and reveal your Snake to the world state.

 

[Shady Penguin]

What makes the second tornado any different from the first?

I've only personally had a problem with MK's nadoing the top of my shield on the ground to pull me away from my nade. Haven't really had this happen to me in the air much at all yet (something to keep in mind for the future though).

And to ask the real best Snake in the state- Yes, Snake's mid-air grenade pull can take away all his landing lag. Test this out by landing on Snake's d-smash mine and power-shielding it immediately for lulz.

 

[Ragnar0k]

I did it to you at least once.

 

[Shady Penguin]

I did it to you at least once.

I think you did, which is why I said "not much at all" instead of ever.

I got you covered bro, haha.

 

[TheLastCacely]

nah **** that... i got the best wario in this state though

 

[lord karn]

If you watch m2k vs ally videos m2k mixes up two options primarily. The neutral position is camping dairs up and in front of snake. After he does a few dairs m2k will either tornado the top of the shield for shield pressure/poke or airdodge behind snake and grab him. I think it's very important for mk's to know this about the matchup.

Also, if the snake sdis up and pulls a nade, the MK can just go to the side before the nade falls back into the nado, I think. This gets snake out, but I don't think it always forces a trade. Depending on how much duration is left in the nado, MK can still just retreat back to neutral as snake sdis out and pulls a nade. Then you go back to neutral postion of camping dairs until you either go for an air dodge to grab or nado shield poke.

 

[TheLastCacely]

thats what i did to shady the first time i fought him, but the past Saturday i was so dumb lol. of all people, i know shady is the one person never to fight close, cause i cant out box him... but i didnt play my game and got 3-0d for it but yeah karn, i know about the airdodge mix up, i saw the GF of MLG when m2k ***** no lube

 

[stingers]

keith you should teach me the mk/snake mu. i'm really bad in it. i just use ROB

 

[_Kadaj_]

Shady dont worry about shielding nado just up tilt it

also I bet Im the best snake in Nc

 

[TheLastCacely]

karn just said the mk/snake mu.. seriously. i dont know ur playing syle, but i never approach in that MU on the ground. its jut stupid. when ever they dont have a grenade u nado.

 

[stingers]

pretty sure your snake cant even beat dr pp =/

 

[_Kadaj_]

shady got 3-0'd by dr pp

I took games off with my snake and prob shouldve won game 3 but marths 4th hit box on the nair thought otherwise

 

[stingers]

sushimans snake can beat peepee

 

[TheLastCacely]

my snake can beat pp

and i aint talking about brawl

 

[Dr Peepee]

I'll MM everyone on this page(15 ppp).

 

[stingers]

aight pp how much

 

[_Kadaj_]

lmao maybe i shouldn't troll anymore

and sure pp

 

[ZIO]

I'll join.

Make it 3 v 1 Team attack off. No items. 4 stocks. FINAL DESTINATION ONLY! IM IN!!!!!!!

 

[Dr Peepee]

<3 Kadaj

$10 Stongers, name your terms(because I don't know what's standard LOL).

 

[stingers]

umm standard rules

 

[TheLastCacely]

what is (15ppp)?

 

[Dr Peepee]

15 posts per page.

Oh nice edit....just saw it.

 

[Ocean]

PP 1 DOLLAR MONEY MATCH MARIO VS Y. LINK LETS DO IT

 

[TheLastCacely]

15 posts per page.

Oh nice edit....just saw it.

way to come late to the party.

anyone see what i did?

 

[_Kadaj_]

yeah keith lol

 

[Dr Peepee]

Yeah I saw you cop out.

 

[Sushi-Man]

sushimans snake can beat peepee

lol I wish

 

[stingers]

yeah i know lol

 

[ZIO]

PP has those odds . . .

Stacked against him.

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

 

[TheLastCacely]

cop out of what? are u doing ur internet sarcasm again?

 

[Shady Penguin]

Karn pretty much covered everything we've been saying in a superior and more comprehensive manner. /nado discussion

@Kadaj: I barely know anything about the Marth match-up though and you main the guy, lol. Speaking of that, we need to get some friendlies in so I can learn what to do against him.

 

[Dr Peepee]

@Keith: The money match.....

 

[stingers]

kadaj mains marth?

 

[ZIO]

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