NC Power Rankings discussion (Brawl)

[stingers]

whats wrong with pictochat

 

[KillerSOS]

whats wrong with pictochat

Other than the random spawning missiles and the super gimp wind?

Nothing.

 

[stingers]

...lol?

dream land 64 needs to be banned in melee! stupid super gimp wind :K

 

[KillerSOS]

...lol?

dream land 64 needs to be banned in melee! stupid super gimp wind :K

ROB can fly... who are you one to judge?

Lol.

 

[Dark Hart]

Ouch no thanks. I love it when bombs drop on my head. Almost as bad as pictochat....

I mean, who cares. Don't get hit by them.

 

[stingers]

ROB can fly... who are you one to judge?

Lol.

LOL

uh if you get gimped by that wind maybe it's because you didn't play enough melee

 

[KillerSOS]

I mean, who cares. Don't get hit by them.

Its not like a alarm goes off warning you bombs are falling...

The less stages with random deaths the better. Luck should not be a factor (tripping =/ )

 

[KillerSOS]

LOL

uh if you get gimped by that wind maybe it's because you didn't play enough melee

Or because I have a teather recovery?? and my pikmin get crazy confused by the wind.

I have six pikmin and only 3 attempt to teather the ledge because the other 3 are floating away in the 100 MPH wind?

No thanks.

 

[stingers]

olimar's whistle makes the pikmin come back to you, fyi

 

[KillerSOS]

olimar's whistle makes the pikmin come back to you, fyi

No really????

NEVA NEW DAT!!

But not really.

They still get lost. Wind is dumb.

 

[Zero_Gamer]

Honestly though, the NUMBER 1 reason why stages are banned is issues with camping and stalling.
Spear Pillar? You can just run away the whole match.
Hyrule Temple? Same thing (and the Cave of Life)
32M? Same thing (and it's ********)
Stalling can be easily done on all banned stages

Greens Greens? I see no issues with stalling or ******** stage kills. It is a terrific choice against characters like ROB and Lucario too.
I highly recommend making it a legal counterpick.

 

[OmniOstrich]

Greens Greens? I see no issues with stalling or ******** stage kills. It is a terrific choice against characters like ROB and Lucario too.
I highly recommend making it a legal counterpick.

If you are in the air when a bomb box drops you cant see it coming and it can kill you at 70%, stages with excessive and unavoidable environmental damage are always banned.

 

[stingers]

Lol Zero...just try to take me to Green Greens

 

[lord karn]

On the topic of stage bans, Bill and I can't agree on a ruleset for the next bill. I think we should go with standard MD/VA rules. Bill thinks mansion and corneria should be unbanned.

 

[Dr Peepee]

Mansion should stay banned.

Corneria has arguable criteria for a ban imo too. If I need to elaborate I will, but I'm just giving you some feedback on your thoughts right now.

 

[stingers]

****ing Ban Corneria.

Bill is playing into his own interests. That is NOT a fair stage.

Mansion needs a ban too imo.

 

[KillerSOS]

****ing Ban Corneria.

Bill is playing into his own interests. That is NOT a fair stage.

Mansion needs a ban too imo.

Mansion is a fair stage. Keep it.

You can break the house if you hate it that much.

 

[Flamingo]

On the topic of stage bans, Bill and I can't agree on a ruleset for the next bill. I think we should go with standard MD/VA rules. Bill thinks mansion and corneria should be unbanned.

Prolly cause Oli ***** on them... (don't know abt corneria, but it seems like the purple grab/usmash will be a little OP.

Keep Hanenbow for teams.

 

[stingers]

"If you have to fight the stage more then the opponent, ban it."

 

[KillerSOS]

"If you have to fight the stage more then the opponent, ban it."

Last time I checked the walls of Mantion did not attack you 0_o

 

[stingers]

if that was an attempt at a joke, joke failed

if that was serious, stfu.

 

[Dr Peepee]

You're being too literal with that interpretation Killer.

 

[Flamingo]

Can I post a bunny here promoting peace and Saskatchewans?

 

[KillerSOS]

You're being too literal with that interpretation Killer.

But I like that stage. Olimar is not even as good at that stage as ROB is. Donno why Stingers doesn't like it....

 

[stingers]

...I love the stage. I'd CP it against half the cast if it was legal, but it's not a fair stage.

Corneria and Mansion should be banned. If you want my opinion on the other "iffy" stages:

Pictochat - Legal
Japes - Legal
Green Greens - Banned

 

[Dr Peepee]

You're not thinking about the concept broadly enough. Maybe Stingers doesn't want to benefit himself with this ban, but the entire tournament-going community?

Also, whether you like it or not isn't important.

 

[KillerSOS]

You're not thinking about the concept broadly enough. Maybe Stingers doesn't want to benefit himself with this ban, but the entire tournament-going community?

Also, whether you like it or not isn't important.

I just know its on the SBR list as a counterpick so it will be legal at most tourneys.

Battlefield is just as good anyways....

 

[Dr Peepee]

SBR is recommended. It can be adjusted as TOs see fit.

 

[KillerSOS]

SBR is recommended. It can be adjusted as TOs see fit.

I agree completly.

Just saying that in general most TOs follow the SBR. Or change like 1 stage.

 

[Flamingo]

SBR is recommended. It can be adjusted as TOs see fit.

I'll adjust you.

 

[KillerSOS]

I'll adjust you.

Because that makes complete sense....

 

[Dr Peepee]

Well, NC isn't traditional. I don't see the point arguing with that one unless everyone just gets bored arging and we say screw it we'll do SBR. Either way it seems there'll be unhappy people.

 

[stingers]

The only people that want Mansion and Corneria are the 2 Olimar Players

wow who would of seen that one coming

 

[Flamingo]

The only people that want Mansion and Corneria are the 2 Olimar Players

wow who would of seen that one coming

The bunny. The bunny knows all.

 

[KillerSOS]

The only people that want Mansion and Corneria are the 2 Olimar Players

wow who would of seen that one coming

Its a fair stage.

Get over it. Rainbow cruise is just as gay in MKs favor.

 

[stingers]

You've yet to explain how it's fair at all...here I'll even make a list of all of the things unfair about the stages for you:

Corneria
1. DDD Infinite Chaingrab against the wall (if Fox's waveshining was enough to ban stages like Princess Peach's Castle, this should be all we need.)
2. Wall in the middle heavily promotes camping, especially for characters with projectiles that can get over the edge (ie. Olimar)
3. Outrageously low ceiling and sides...seriously, some characters can kill at 30% here.

Mansion
1. The whole stage is one big circle, very reminiscent of Hyrule Temple.
2. The whole stage is basically one big Teching Paradise.
3. Unless of course you waste your time hitting the stage instead of your opponent, and the thing will only regenerate later anyway.
4. Characters (such as Olimar) can chain very strong, fast attacks easily against the "roof" of the mansion (what the Pillars are supporting) and even teching will not end this 100% of the time.
5. Pillars that even some projectiles cannot get through, coupled with an easy escape route (up onto the 2nd level of the Mansion), makes this a very very campy stage.

 

[Dr Peepee]

Killer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujLvRh_4JHQ&feature=channel_page

 

[Flamingo]

Killer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujLvRh_4JHQ&feature=channel_page

You better watch it mister..

Edit: lol @ toasty's suiciding at 8 secs. Loser stallers.

 

[KillerSOS]

Killer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujLvRh_4JHQ&feature=channel_page

Thats plank... what do you expect?

I will record some singles here some time this week.

 

[Dr Peepee]

He's showing how bad the level can be. If that's possible to do, then it shouldn't be allowed.