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Nasty 80% combo that works on multi characters
- Thread starter GuiltyPleasure
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lricardojamesl
Smash Rookie
It's already been said and proven that you can't do that. The opponent is forced to only stand up after the single needle.
stealthsushi
Smash Apprentice
I have to say this combo is quite ingenious; who would've thought that a single needle could set up for one of Sheik's best KO moves. I still can't wait until I get to a Brawl to try this out myself 
Hoping more developments come soon!
Hoping more developments come soon!does the single needle trick work on all characters on the ground? cuz if that is the case then this opens up a whole lot of strategies to me.... since i just found out about this single needle business
GuiltyPleasure
Smash Cadet
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from what ive played with using iceclimbers ive noticed that footstool forces you to stand, I wouldnt post this if it was as easy as rolling out of it after 15%
put more effort into brawl
put more effort into brawl
lricardojamesl
Smash Rookie
It works on any character that has suffered from a footstool jump. If they are on the ground due to an attack and you use the needle or some other attack, then I believe they are still able to roll or attack.
SinkingHigher
Smash Lord
omg omg omg *screams like a schoolgirl*... Has anyone been able to do this straight out of an f-tilt lock?
Would it be at all possible to get in a chainlock somewhere? Possibly instead of the Usmash?
Would it be at all possible to get in a chainlock somewhere? Possibly instead of the Usmash?
Squidster
Smash Ace
Chainlock to do more than 30%?
And Ftilt lock below 25% is hard vs most people but i think may work. Unless the Ftilt has to be fresh? not sure
And Ftilt lock below 25% is hard vs most people but i think may work. Unless the Ftilt has to be fresh? not sure
demodemo
Smash Ace
hey squidster, if your youtube video is not working, try uninstalling google web accelerator (if you have it)
i know when i did all my youtube videos said "vidoe removeD" and ****, so yeah
i know when i did all my youtube videos said "vidoe removeD" and ****, so yeah
Squidster
Smash Ace
No i got it to work. I'm just dumb and didn't see the youtube link o_o
I've worked on the combo some now and its really hard to do out of training mode. Especially since you have like a 10% window of opportunity and you need fully charged needles and its often easier just to keep tilt locking during that window.
I think this is going to be most useful vs light characters like jigglypuff who can't be tilt locked
I've worked on the combo some now and its really hard to do out of training mode. Especially since you have like a 10% window of opportunity and you need fully charged needles and its often easier just to keep tilt locking during that window.
I think this is going to be most useful vs light characters like jigglypuff who can't be tilt locked
Villi
Smash Lord
Very nice. Gonna get this down.
Squidster
Smash Ace
No, throws don't work cause the enemy will just air dodge. BUT, if you're playing someone really bad then go for it 
You can get wario on grab release
You can get wario on grab release
En.Ee.Oh
Smash Champion
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I made up a psuedo chain-grab on Wario that works depending on how deteriorated your tilts are, also if you don't hit with the right area of certain moves he can air dodge or respond which is why it's 'pseudo' but you can block his attacks and wait for air dodges if they do occur
The combo goes like so
Grab release > Footstool > Neutral air > Up tilt > Grab
Grab release > Footstool > Neutral air > Up tilt > Grab
Should be around 40%ish now
Grab release> Footstool > Neutral air > F-tilt > Grab
(He starts being able to respond sometimes around 60%)
The neutral air to f-tilt to grab works on and off up until around 100ish
I found it worked better when I did f-tilt as close to his body as possible
at 80, when you sex kick wario off of a footstool he slides while stunned and you can grab him again (ROFL) it's so gay
FD **** plx
The combo goes like so
Grab release > Footstool > Neutral air > Up tilt > Grab
Grab release > Footstool > Neutral air > Up tilt > Grab
Should be around 40%ish now
Grab release> Footstool > Neutral air > F-tilt > Grab
(He starts being able to respond sometimes around 60%)
The neutral air to f-tilt to grab works on and off up until around 100ish
I found it worked better when I did f-tilt as close to his body as possible
at 80, when you sex kick wario off of a footstool he slides while stunned and you can grab him again (ROFL) it's so gay
FD **** plx
slickmasterizzy
Smash Apprentice
hey if i come up with a series of moves and get a video of an opponent that didnt escape from it can i call it a GROUNDBREAKING COMBO too? =D
En.Ee.Oh
Smash Champion
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No, but you can make useless posts that don't help anything in character specific forums and we can call you a f ag
ADHD
Smash Hero
I don't understand why needles force the get up animation in this case.
lricardojamesl
Smash Rookie
It's the same reason the Ice Climber's Ice Block Lock makes them do the same thing
Squidster
Smash Ace
Haha falco's is sweet. That is really easy to pull off O_O
I think since the hitstun on footstool is the only big one more and more character will learn how to implement it into their games.
I think since the hitstun on footstool is the only big one more and more character will learn how to implement it into their games.
Cat Fight
Smash Lord
AMAZING! :"O
This is so exciting. Everyone should investigate this footstool comboing with more chars.
I've tried Snake, but no luck yet. T_T
I will find one!
Tristan_win
Not dead.
You can't put Mario in a tilt lock after the 2nd hit as he will use his ^B and either force you to stop or knock you away before the next tilt connects.
Tristan_win, when I listed those characters, I meant to list characters that have lock combos instead of people who can be put into lock combos since Cat Fight wanted to see more combos such as Sheik's and Falco's, except being done by other characters.
Like, Mario locks with his jab, Metaknight with his down tilt, Squirtle with his jab, second jab, and dtilt, etc.
Like, Mario locks with his jab, Metaknight with his down tilt, Squirtle with his jab, second jab, and dtilt, etc.
Turbo Ether
Smash Master
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Wolf locks with Nair too.
SinkingHigher
Smash Lord
This full needle > single needle thing. Does it work whenever an opponent is down, or is it only after footstools?
Wildfire393
Smash Journeyman
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This should work whenever your opponent lands fallen down in front of you. But the forced stand-up would only trigger from a footstool.
I thought that needles stuff was common knowledge
but yeah footstool is ****. sheik is getting better everyday.
but yeah footstool is ****. sheik is getting better everyday.
Oracle
Smash Master
It appears to be escapable. Tech the footstool or the bair.
SinkingHigher
Smash Lord
So, why is it that this can only be done with the b-air? What's so special about it?
At least the F-tilt to Footstool is escapable as you get out of stun before Sheik can even do another F-tilt, let alone FSJ you.
4Serial
Smash Lord
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=182556
Found one for Link that is basically the same as Kirbys =]
Vids coming later.
SinkingHigher
Smash Lord
I just thought I'd say, you can Auto Grab Release ANY character. Grab them when they're recovering, or just so their feet are hovering off the side of the stage, and they will do the same thing as Wario, Jiggly, etc...
That's not exactly useful given the variable jump break distances of all the characters...