My Little Pony General

[ToferTheHuman]

Because she gets away with being such a *****.

 

[Espy Rose]

Sonic Rainboom ain't gonna save a crumbling cloud city.

Also, Rarity is the freeest of the mane cast. Everyone needed some mental provoking before cracking.
Rarity just needed bling.

@Leaf: It's because Dash lost the game for them. Say what you want about how everyone sucks vs. Discord, but you can't say that they would've lost if Dash hadn't left.

 

[~automatic]

Okay but look at it like Rainbow Dash. She CLEARLY doesn't think things through. You see something like that happening, you get confused. I mean, Discord shows up and says he's gonna destroy everywhere you live unless you go back to save it, then gives you the means to do so. In her confusion she got hypnotized and from there, it's done.

Discord took Dash's element/color before she got her wings back.
Dash made a conscious choice without her sense of loyalty. Dash wouldn't have taken the wings as herself.
http://youtu.be/eR_XehGlyf4?t=20m20s

Discord is broken.

 

[McNugget]

Okay but look at it like Rainbow Dash. She CLEARLY doesn't think things through. You see something like that happening, you get confused. I mean, Discord shows up and says he's gonna destroy everywhere you live unless you go back to save it, then gives you the means to do so. In her confusion she got hypnotized and from there, it's done.

pretty much explains her reasoning

@ i mean to save the city, not destroy it.

 

[Phoenix Lord']

It doesn't matter that they were tricked though, because Discord could've just forced hypnosis upon them all like with Fluttershy anyway. They had absolutley no chance of winning from the start.

 

[Geoberos]

Also at least, Rarity, could've gone back for the "diamond rock" for a later time.
Greed does not necessarily mean to also be impatient.

 

[Espy Rose]

@Phil: Wrong.
It was improbable, but possible.

 

[Leaf.]

@Leaf: It's because Dash lost the game for them. Say what you want about how everyone sucks vs. Discord, but you can't say that they would've lost if Dash hadn't left.

Well then it's clear Loyalty is the most important element. Once Loyalty was dropped, the game got screwed.

 

[BSP]

***** is still dumb.
And when he said "home will crumble" he was talking about if she made the wrong decision, getting her wings and leaving the game, then they would not get the elements and all of Equestria would crumble.


Anyways, I leave with conversation with "Stay free Celestia."

Hmm, ok, if you see "home" as all of Equestria, that makes sense. All right then.

Rainbow did make them lose, but they did all mess up :I

And even if Dash didn't leave, do you really think the elements were in the maze?

 

[ToferTheHuman]

Also, Rarity is the freeest of the mane cast. Everyone needed some mental provoking before cracking.
Rarity just needed bling.

I KNOW.
Like everyone needed some kind of life altering feeling, except Rarity.
She gave up her friends for a diamond, we *****es gotta look fabulous.

 

[Reizilla]

Dash sucks.

 

[Espy Rose]

Well then it's clear Loyalty is the most important element. Once Loyalty was dropped, the game got screwed.

Without Magic, they'd still have everlasting night.
Loyalty, eat your heart out.

 

[john!]

Anyways if it's obvious that everyone got ****ed by Discord I don't see why the past 5 pages have to be about how Rainbow Dash screwed up.

everyone EXCEPT fluttershy

but yeah... dash got HYPNOTIZED, you guys. how can she be held responsible for her actions?

 

[Espy Rose]

Because no one else broke the rules while hypnotized, obviously.

 

[Leaf.]

Because Dash is the only one that NEEDED to be hypnotized.

Without Magic, they'd still have everlasting night.
Loyalty, eat your heart out.

Couldn't have magic without the rest of them though.

 

[~automatic]

Without Magic, they'd still have everlasting night.
Loyalty, eat your heart out.

Magic wouldn't have been activated w/o the other elements.

 

[Espy Rose]

Doesn't matter. It's the strongest, and by that regard, the most important.
Canon.

 

[Leaf.]

And it doesn't exist without the other 5.
Canon.

 

[ToferTheHuman]

Didn't Discord say himself it was the strongest?

 

[~automatic]

But it doesn't exist without the other 5.

 

[BSP]

They're both right in a sense

Magic's the strongest no doubt, but wouldn't they all be equally important since you cant have magic without all of them?

 

[Espy Rose]

Leaf/auto, quit being silly.
If we say they are all equally important (since that's what you're implying), yet Magic is canonically the strongest (and most effective), then how can they all still be equally important?

 

[Leaf.]

I'm not saying Magic is not the most powerful and important, I'm just saying you wont get magic without having the other 5. They are more important until you get magic.

 

[ToferTheHuman]

I thought once is was activated it stayed active, which is why they were able to be physically contained.

 

[~automatic]

Strong doesn't necessarily mean it's more important.

Yes, it's the strongest; but not more important than the rest.

 

[Espy Rose]

So magic is the most important, Leaf. We're assuming they're all active. It'd be unjust any other way.

Which means you're wrong about loyalty being the most important. That's all that matters.

@Auto: Yes, it DOES mean it's more important.
You can't say that they would've stopped Nightmare Moon with 100% confidence if it wasn't as strong as it is, can you?

 

[:mad:]

I'd say it's a lot more important than the rest.

 

[~automatic]

Disregard plz.

 

[Reizilla]

Rainbow was too dumb to figure out the riddle on her own, so she ended up hypnotized. Her fault.

 

[Leaf.]

If it stays active, then why did it need to be summoned in the second episode to beat Nightmare Moon? Didn't Celestia already have them a long time ago?


And I'm talking about Loyalty being most important in the situation that was presented. Because once loyalty was gone, the game was over. Magic didn't have a chance to be gone, so the same COULD have happened, but what is CANON is that once loyalty was gone, the game was over.

 

[Ryo242]

I still think the game was rigged, and that if any other pony was offered to leave while being mind-boggled, they would have too.

 

[Espy Rose]

Loyalty cost the ponies the game.

Well yeah, it's the easiest one to break, if the show's actions are anything to go by.

Rainbow was too dumb to figure out the riddle on her own, so she ended up hypnotized. Her fault.

That's what I said. Lol.

 

[McNugget]

Rainbow was too dumb to figure out the riddle on her own, so she ended up hypnotized. Her fault.

in her defense, even if she did solve it she wouldve gotten fingered and sent flying anyways.

 

[:mad:]

in her defense, even if she did solve it she wouldve gotten fingered

Wait, what?

 

[Leaf.]

Well yeah, it's the easiest one to break, if the show's actions are anything to go by.

That's why he used Hypnosis on her and nopony else?

 

[Espy Rose]

And I'm talking about Loyalty being most important in the situation that was presented. Because once loyalty was gone, the game was over. Magic didn't have a chance to be gone, so the same COULD have happened, but what is CANON is that once loyalty was gone, the game was over.

lol. You were arguing universals here.
If you're gonna play the context card, make sure you make it known next time, because really, your argument works for any of them, then.

She's free, Leaf. If I were Discord and needed to get rid of them, I'd abuse the weakest element/link too.

 

[ToferTheHuman]

I am guessing she sealed them away after she used them Leaf.
Making them inactive.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Here, have some beautiful, beautiful ear ****: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8I36asmAoo&feature=feedu

 

[Reizilla]

She lost grasp on them when Luna became Nightmare Moon.

 

[Espy Rose]

She lost control of them when Twilight & Co. received the elements in Episode 2, Rei.
Celestia stated that herself.