Legend: Anyone who has
Wheat or more
"red" colours, I'd be fine with lynching if it happened Today.
Yellow I'd need some convincing on and
greens wouldn't be lynched unless they make a nice slip-up
1. Vinyl.
- I would seriously put this guy in dead-on red if it wasn't for his blatantly disgusting apathy towards the game. This is something I can only attribute to the most useless vanilla townie. The only things he ever does is come up with ridiculous reasonings for voting someone and when asked about it, disappears just as fast.
If mafia has any honour, they'll NK Vinyl because he is just making it TOO easy to win for them.
2. The Paprika Killer Acrostic
- Duh, hindsight town read, what a surprise, but I also outed my liking for Acrostic yesterday. I was content with his play and what I really loved was how he looked for interactions between players. Something I should pursue to continue, but not sure if I'd be any good at that.
3. John2k4
- I dislike his play so far. Ignoring the stuff before the game started, since I honestly think it's just light-heartedly him trying to blend in.
TB is dodging the questions, he is scum.
That is an accusation with a
smiley written all over it, but still a small jab contained in a nice package of sarcasm. What made you post this and not follow it up with anything, or join in their discussion?
His #48, there has been quite some talk already, yet he still does RVS voting, instead of joining in the discussion, or waiting to see if something happens, if he didn't want to cockblock either player.
In John's #56, he'd happily leave pre-game behind. Might there be something in your pre-game posts you don't want looked at?
I'm nervous to follow you after Housepets
, but yes, I agree with that above statement.
I'm going to go try to read your back & forth with him in-depth, so I can hopefully comprehend more of it. :/
OBVIOUSLY, this never happened, since he never again commented on their interactions.
I'll go comprehend that wall of text, but the first thing that comes to mind is this.
Are you writing TB and Raz off as most likely being town, then?
Oh boy, this never happened either. Never mentioned again.
His posts
#277 and T-block's reponse
#278. He was asked to state his reasoning. Not until 80 posts after, after being urger THREE times to post his reasons did he respond. This either shows enormous skimming, or reluctance to answer the questions, both of which I do not attribute to town.
...I think they were saying you are not understanding the game.
I'll elaborate in a few minutes when I return.
You never elaborated.
On his
#391, I already commented on it, but I'd like to re-emphasize this once again. Never gives reasoning unless explicitly asked to.
Well, when he does come up with a case against Chibo, it's the most shakey, most reaching case/reasoning I've ever seen him come up with (in fact, this is the only time I remember in the past 2 games).
My point is, it's Day 1, and with only 300-ish posts (probably a good 1/3rd being pregame shenanigans between TB and Raz), why would he be so opposed to reading?
Disregarding about 100 posts as pregame shenanigans which provided the base of a lynch, eventually. John, that's just bad.
Pluvia what's your opinion on Chibe?
Congratulations, your first question you came up with on your own, asked to a player NOT in the spotlight. If only you did this 4 days earlier.
Vinyl. - Wait, Vinyl's in this game? [Would be fine with lynch]
Acro - I like the cases he is providing. [Do not want to lynch]
RocketPSIence - Oh look rPSI is in here too... [Would be fine with lynch]
Chibo - See #393
Pluvia - Noob town, he didn't give up with everyone calling him scum, and instead provided arguments to the contrary. [Leaning NoobTown]
Gustave - I'm going to read him in a bit.
JO_OEY - Made a good case on Kanty, don't have much of a read yet apart from that.
T-Block - I'm leaning town, due to your Vig gambit on Auspher/Pluvia, but after Housepets, I'm very reluctant to label you as so.
Kantrip - Need to read on Kanty too.
Raziek - I really didn't like the back and forth in the beginning, but apart from that, you provide some interesting points...
These reads are CRAP for the last day of Day 1. But to be honest, I didn't expect a very amazing post. John, did you ever read on "Kanty" yet?
TB's points against Raz are great...You've sold me.
And with that, my first hammer;
unvote; Vote Raziek
Goddamned bull**** post. SO many times have you stated to not want to be a sheep and follow T-block. I can imagine you wouldn't want to join in with T-block's lynch. You had never talked about T-block vs Raziek, never stated who's points you liked and didn't like, and then SUDDENLY the T-block sheep.
Your timing was also perfect. I said I would cast my vote in 90-120 mins to allow some time inbetween, but you came and quickly hammered before you. I hope you know how much it looks like you were sent by a partner to get that hammer in.
I've been wanting to make a case on him, but I've been in and out all day. :/
Your post sure makes him look scum to me.
I do not want to be another sheep; I'll try to form a case on him soon.
Piss off, you weren't. I want to see a case on me within 24 hours, pretend like the last page where me and Chibo defended from T-block's case never happened.
In short, John has come in and constantly provided sideline commentary, and even that didn't go well, see where it got him. He never asks questions and takes initiative. His hammer was placed almost too convenient. Also has been sheeping, despite saying he hasn't. He got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and said he wasn't hungry.
Enough on John, though. <3 for extending premium
4. Teran vVv ChiboSempai
- Teran was an ******* for replacing out. It doesn't even give me a read on his alignment. Usually I'd say people who replace out are generally not scum (since it's fun to be scum and much less demanding), but Teran is the kind of person who wouldn't give a **** and replace out anyway so he can play video games.
When Chibo came in he didn't want to read, something which I do not approve of, but I guess I can't blame him, I'm pretty lazy as well. It doesn't say much about his alignment either. Him coming in and calling T-block scummy for his gambit on Pluvia is pretty reaching, and I expected him to understand the gambit, as much as half of the player list did. However, him choosing for himself and calling T-block scum for it shows some initiative and not taking the easy way. I think this speaks for him.
Chibo's problem is that he's much too focused on T-block, which isn't necessarily something bad, but I can't get anything of Chibo's interactions with other players, since they're not there. Chibo, you haven't even spoken about Joey (this is from my memory, correct me if I'm wrong) and a few others.
Thank you for defending me, but see my mad
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13723603&postcount=756
5. Auspher Pluvia
- I liked you more before, when you were defending yourself. When suddenly you're not in the spotlight anymore, you disappear. I know you're new to the game, but do more. If you're not sure on what you could do; You ask questions. Ask as many questions as you want to, wether you think they are dumb or not (okay refrain from the dumb questions, actually). As is often said, your voice is your only weapon as a townie!
6. Gustave
- Love you, but be more active.
7. JO_OEY
- Wow, I have literally no idea. From memory, I can't think of anything bad you've done, other than wanting to lynch me. Can you wait until next few posts when I re-read you, John was a lot of work as it is.
8. RocketPSIence
- Your eccentric play and sickness does not excuse you from not contributing. You only respond to questions when asked to. Also, you ask Kantrip who he would shoot. When asked for reasoning;
Two posts later, calling out T-block on:
Why are you withholding info?
Major contradiction and hypocrite. Strong dislike towards rPSI, change your game.
9. T-Block
- Has done things to make me believe he's part of town, has done things to make me believe he's not on our side. I'd rather cover this another time since I've been on this post for an hour.
The most important thing is that I fully agree with this
Yes Chibo, I was. However, I'm going back on that now. Raziek flipped indy, which isn't mafia. This means if T-block is scum he would have thought his back-and-forth with Raziek was TvS. Meaning I'm treating Raziek's flip as town for the sake of reading T-block's intent from their interactions. I'm not liking what I'm seeing.
Props on getting the Serial Killer out of the way, but I am viewing it as you chasing a townie lynch. A Serial Killer behaves in the same way as a townie, wanting to find scum as well, except he needs to survive and can kill.
10. Kantrip
- You sometimes bring up good points and you're not afraid to change your mind and think for yourself (see above quote for example). I think that's quite good on your part. Only thing I'm thinking of right now is you being a scum team with John, asking him to vote off Raziek before I could vote you and put you on L-1 as well. But that is reaching hard and I am not taking this into account with my reads on you, just wanted to get it out there :o.
Anyway, I'm dying to read your case on T-block, which you'd present.
11. Raziek
I would have voted Raziek yesterday, but not because of his bad play. It was at 7 hours before lynch and 1 hour before I would go to bed. We'd need 2 votes on Kantrip, which wouldn't happen anyway. If I voted Raziek I'd lynch him for the sake of having a lynch and connections, not because of his play... I'd rather have seen someone else being lynched over Raziek, or the option Kantrip.
The fact that he was a Serial Killer was quite lucky. He could just as easily have been townie under the same play. He also made my role obsolete now which makes me mad. The fact that he called on me and Chibo to get rid of T-block, I have no idea what to think of it. It sounds more like an OMGUS accusation for him getting lynched D1 as a Serial Killer. I still think there was some truth to his accusations but I'll look into that later.
Are those reads enough for you?
Vote: John2k4
