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MKGD: A new Bat watches over the town
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That's why I stopped watching the anime.
I'm actually reading Shonen Jump's latest updates fot their top mangas Naruto, Bleach and One Piece (which is taking a 4-week break.... WTF Oda-sensei?!)
KassandraNova
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Naruto did get boring.
Neon Genesis Evangelion is the best anime....ever...
O_o
Neon Genesis Evangelion is the best anime....ever...
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That's why I only read mangas.
Anime is overrated.
And because of my ****ty Video Driver.
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KassandraNova
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Any anime that caused hundreds of japanese people to kill themselves HAS to be weird and awesome. 
FLCL is another great classic. Have you seen serial experiments: Lain? If you like eva and flcl then you'd love Lain! (not the smasher x_x)
FLCL is another great classic. Have you seen serial experiments: Lain? If you like eva and flcl then you'd love Lain! (not the smasher x_x)
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Lol no I haven't, but I'll check it out. How long is it?
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But Lain seems like such a cool guy ._.Any anime that caused hundreds of japanese people to kill themselves HAS to be weird and awesome.
FLCL is another great classic. Have you seen serial experiments: Lain? If you like eva and flcl then you'd love Lain! (not the smasher x_x)
If I ever see him again I'm gonna tell him you hate him
Naruto is only boring when Sasuke's around. Which is way too god**** often.
I disagree. Everyone knows that Fist of the North Star is the greatest anime of all time. Anyone who disagrees is already dead.
Yes but any anime that makes me want to kill hundreds of Japanese people is just bad.Any anime that caused hundreds of japanese people to kill themselves HAS to be weird and awesome.
And hundreds? Really? I mean the ending was ****ing terrible and the last 5 or so episodes are just mind****s, but it wasn't worth killing yourself over. Or was that the people who worked on this pile of ****? In that case, good riddance to bad rubbish.
Careful, he namesearches.
Knowing lain, he'd be too stoned to care.If I ever see him again I'm gonna tell him you hate him
But seriously, the best anime of all time is Cowboy Bebop. Fist of the North Star is awesome, but mostly for its camp value. Cowboy Bebop is just really **** good.
Budget Player Cadet_
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Ladies and gentlemen. You all suck for not naming the best anime/manga ever as Bo-bobo Bobo-bobo.
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Cowboy Bebop is the ****
KassandraNova
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Lain is about 13 episodes long, its really short, but amazing and difficult to understand when you first watch it. I never said I hated Lain. :O I'm just saying he isn't an anime.
Eva's ending wasn't the greatest, but meh. I still love the series, and for it to have an impact on that many people's lives, it HAS to be amazing. Problem was that Eva built up for something epic, and the first ending in the series didn't deliver. xD (the movies did)
Cowboy bebop is another classic that I would compare to Eva, Lain, Outlaw star, and such. Did anybody watch Sailor moon in Japanese? It's so much more serious! I love it! :D
Eva's ending wasn't the greatest, but meh. I still love the series, and for it to have an impact on that many people's lives, it HAS to be amazing.
Problem was that Eva built up for something epic, and the first ending in the series didn't deliver. xD (the movies did)Cowboy bebop is another classic that I would compare to Eva, Lain, Outlaw star, and such. Did anybody watch Sailor moon in Japanese? It's so much more serious! I love it! :D
Meh, there's lots of comedy anime out there and a lot of it is the same. Bobobo is mostly just nonsense - some of it's funny and some of it isn't.
Albert.
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mk just won another tournament
go mk
yay
go mk
yay
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U mad?
Rofl MLG was free for M2K since Ally and ADHD got DQd
Rofl MLG was free for M2K since Ally and ADHD got DQd
BlueSuperSonic1
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Yeah I heard that Ally didn't make it on time.
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Death Note is pure ****. The mind games that are played are too good. For sure top anime.
KassandraNova
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Death Note is waaaay better than Code Geass.
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First season of Death Note was amazing, second season wasn't as much
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How many MKs were in top 8 and 16 in MLG?
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Top 16 = 6 MKs
Top 8 = 5 MKs
1st (1)Mew2King - Meta Knight - $2,500
2nd (6)LeeMartin - Meta Knight/Lucario/Toon Link/Game & Watch - $1,500
3rd (21)Felixtrix - Diddy Kong - $1,000
4th (15)Seibrik - Meta Knight - $700
5th (5)NickRiddle - Zero Suit Samus - $500
6th (3)TyRaNt-WC - Meta Knight - $350
7th (8)DEHF - Falco - $250
8th (16)HavokZ - Meta Knight/Marth - $200
9th (4)ESAM - Pikachu
10th (26)Kelzorz - Meta Knight
11th (14)FatalMatt - Snake
12th (25)NinjaLink - Various
13th (19)RichBrown - Olimar
14th (7)Atomsk92 - Ice Climbers/Various
15th (28)ch33s3 - Ice Climbers
16th (17)_choice_ - Falco/Wolf
Not bad, IMO.
Top 8 = 5 MKs
1st (1)Mew2King - Meta Knight - $2,500
2nd (6)LeeMartin - Meta Knight/Lucario/Toon Link/Game & Watch - $1,500
3rd (21)Felixtrix - Diddy Kong - $1,000
4th (15)Seibrik - Meta Knight - $700
5th (5)NickRiddle - Zero Suit Samus - $500
6th (3)TyRaNt-WC - Meta Knight - $350
7th (8)DEHF - Falco - $250
8th (16)HavokZ - Meta Knight/Marth - $200
9th (4)ESAM - Pikachu
10th (26)Kelzorz - Meta Knight
11th (14)FatalMatt - Snake
12th (25)NinjaLink - Various
13th (19)RichBrown - Olimar
14th (7)Atomsk92 - Ice Climbers/Various
15th (28)ch33s3 - Ice Climbers
16th (17)_choice_ - Falco/Wolf
Not bad, IMO.
Death Note and Code Gayass are both nothing more than mindgames. This seems good in theory but when it's all you have going for you it ultimately amounts to very little. In a TV series or a really long movie, if you do one of the same thing for too long the audience will become tired or bored of it and eventually stop caring about what they're watching. There needs to be breaks in the series from the usual monotony, even if you need to step away from the main story to do it.
There are three basic genres for most films, TV series, or anime - action, drama, and comedy - and the best way to take a break from one of the genres for a little while is to do an episode that falls into another genre. Comedy anime need the breaks the least of these, although the occasional dramatic episode can provide character development and potentially set up for future jokes. It's also very difficult for comedy anime to pull off an action episode unless they're nonsense anime (Excel Saga, Bobobo) or it's inherent to the comedic style like in physical comedy (Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro-chan). Slice-of-life comedies have a much more difficult time incorporating action into their repertoire, so this usually manifests itself in a trip to the beach or a field day to do some physical comedy (Azumanga Daioh has both of these).
Action can pull off both dramatic episodes and comedic episodes fairly easily. Dramatic episodes can deal with the characters' personal feelings and develop them into more than just a faceless fighter. Comedy episodes can take a break from the intense action and draw comedy from putting them in situations that they're not used to (Men in pink, how bizarre).
Drama anime are the ones that need to take breaks most since the audience can grow weary of the characters and storyline if they're not extremely well written. Look at Cowboy Bebop. There are many episodes with elaborate chase scenes and gunfights (action) but there are also episodes that deal with comedic themes (like when they had a mutant ooze living in their refrigerator or when they all got high on mushrooms). When done properly, taking a break from the main genre of the anime can be very refreshing to the viewer and enhance the experience overall.
When Death Note does attempt something besides mindgames, it fails miserably. Death Note has almost no action aside from a rare gunshot or something. Action in Death Note is, ultimately, someone writing names in a book, which only seems cool because of the series' ridiculously high production values. And really, good production values can make anything seem entertaining (look at 75% of every game on current gen consoles that has a metacritic rating above 80 and every movie released since 2000 that grossed more than $100,000,000). If Death Note had the animation quality of, say, Dragonball, the "action" scenes would be boring as ****.
As far as comedy goes, the comedic relief character, Misa Misa (or whatever her name is - the blonde one who turns out to have a Death Note WHAT A TWIST) is one of the most annoying, obnoxious, vapid, insufferable abominations to ever torture an anime fan. This girl is to Death Note what Jar Jar Binks is to Star Wars. She ultimately serves no purpose in the storyline than to attempt to provide minor amounts of humor and stalk Light (nice character names btw, naming themselves after English words and letters of the alphabet is SOOO COOOL). She fails catastrophically.
So what we're ultimately left with in Death Note is a drama with action sequences that are incredibly lame when you think about it logically and an annoying blonde parasite that even fans of the series hate. Death Note lives almost exclusively on its plot twists and production values - It's like the anime equivalent of MGS4, only instead of an awesome manly main character we get an emo kid who eventually turns into a sociopath.
Code Geass doesn't even try to be anything but drama. From what I've seen of the series there is almost no comedy whatsoever, which almost always leaves you with something that takes itself too seriously. The only thing that can be considered remotely comedic is the scene with Karin in the bunny suit, and that's more blatant fanservice than comedy.
It has more action than Death Note, but only because it uses the most generic, bland, obvious method of inserting action into your anime ever - mecha. For the longest time I could not for the life of me figure out why Code Geass had mecha when they weren't the focus of the story, their energy supply wasn't a major concern, and there was almost no explanation for the history of them whatsoever (including the obvious question of how a robot that big and well armored isn't too heavy to move). In other mecha anime, it's clearly explained that mecha are, in fact, a big deal.
Gurren Lagann, Evangelion, and many Gundam series explore this aspect of having giant robots. In Evangelion the mecha, EVAs, are technology stolen from "God" or something (which is a lame cop-out but it's better than nothing), they run on a power cord, and there's even an episode devoted to another country building an Eva unit with a portable nuclear power source. Additionally, the pilots are also carefully selected and in Rei's case even created, something that carries onto other mecha anime like Gundam SEED where pilots are genetically engineered. In Gurren Lagann, the mecha, Ganmen, are technology from the Beastman species that rules the planet and they're powered by the pilot's will to fight (which is the only thing strong enough to move them).
G-Gundam is set in the far future, where they presumably have the technology to maintain (or even power) the gundams, and it's explained that there are few more than 1 Gundam per each major superpower (Japan, China, America, Russia, etc.), each pilot has a unique fighting style (American boxer, Russian grappler, Chinese woman, Indian guy who can stretch his arms really far, Brazilian feral child, Hakan, etc.), as well as a very large support team, and they hold a tournament once in a while for...lulz basically (the last tournament was hosted by M. Bison to see which Gundam would be best suited to his new body, but then Akuma showed up in the Dark Gundam and performed the Raging Demon on him and he was killed until G-Gundam IV when Neo-Shadaloo brought him back to life). G-Gundam does a good job of not only characterizing the protagonist and being entertaining but also explaining almost everything that goes on in its universe (though one thing it doesn't explain fully is how that hand of his glows with an awesome POWERRR! or why its burning grip tells him who to defeat but whatever).
In all of these mecha anime, the concept of having giant robots is explained in varying amounts of depth. In Code Geass, however, it's not.
The mecha in Code Geass are there to make the action scenes more exciting, or rather, to create action scenes. They're not explained as to how they can perform at maximum efficiency without being away from a power source, why that have completely replaced tanks, APCs, and aircraft in the armed forces, or how long they've been around. The only purpose the mecha serve is to break up the drama with more action, but they neglect to explain it at all because what's more entertaining to watch - normal looking tanks and soldiers like we have in present day or awesome futuristic impractical giant robots? It's like the part with the jungle mutants in Uncharted - the creators of the game didn't explain it at all, they just wanted variety in enemy types.
The creators of Code Geass are basically saying "we don't have to explain why there are giant robots to the viewers, we can just put them in because they look cool". It's up there with fanservice and moe as one of the cheapest cop-outs you can do to get people to pay attention to your show or movie.
That is why Death Note and Code Geass are overrated. They have good ideas and are solid dramas but they take themselves too seriously and can't come up with any way to break the monotony of each episode than to use some of the oldest tropes in the history of anime and hope that the ludicrously high production values distract from the flaws.
tl;dr - Death Note and Code Gayass are for people who are easily amused by plot twists and shiny objects and there are a million better things you could be watching.
There are three basic genres for most films, TV series, or anime - action, drama, and comedy - and the best way to take a break from one of the genres for a little while is to do an episode that falls into another genre. Comedy anime need the breaks the least of these, although the occasional dramatic episode can provide character development and potentially set up for future jokes. It's also very difficult for comedy anime to pull off an action episode unless they're nonsense anime (Excel Saga, Bobobo) or it's inherent to the comedic style like in physical comedy (Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro-chan). Slice-of-life comedies have a much more difficult time incorporating action into their repertoire, so this usually manifests itself in a trip to the beach or a field day to do some physical comedy (Azumanga Daioh has both of these).
Action can pull off both dramatic episodes and comedic episodes fairly easily. Dramatic episodes can deal with the characters' personal feelings and develop them into more than just a faceless fighter. Comedy episodes can take a break from the intense action and draw comedy from putting them in situations that they're not used to (Men in pink, how bizarre).
Drama anime are the ones that need to take breaks most since the audience can grow weary of the characters and storyline if they're not extremely well written. Look at Cowboy Bebop. There are many episodes with elaborate chase scenes and gunfights (action) but there are also episodes that deal with comedic themes (like when they had a mutant ooze living in their refrigerator or when they all got high on mushrooms). When done properly, taking a break from the main genre of the anime can be very refreshing to the viewer and enhance the experience overall.
When Death Note does attempt something besides mindgames, it fails miserably. Death Note has almost no action aside from a rare gunshot or something. Action in Death Note is, ultimately, someone writing names in a book, which only seems cool because of the series' ridiculously high production values. And really, good production values can make anything seem entertaining (look at 75% of every game on current gen consoles that has a metacritic rating above 80 and every movie released since 2000 that grossed more than $100,000,000). If Death Note had the animation quality of, say, Dragonball, the "action" scenes would be boring as ****.
As far as comedy goes, the comedic relief character, Misa Misa (or whatever her name is - the blonde one who turns out to have a Death Note WHAT A TWIST) is one of the most annoying, obnoxious, vapid, insufferable abominations to ever torture an anime fan. This girl is to Death Note what Jar Jar Binks is to Star Wars. She ultimately serves no purpose in the storyline than to attempt to provide minor amounts of humor and stalk Light (nice character names btw, naming themselves after English words and letters of the alphabet is SOOO COOOL). She fails catastrophically.
So what we're ultimately left with in Death Note is a drama with action sequences that are incredibly lame when you think about it logically and an annoying blonde parasite that even fans of the series hate. Death Note lives almost exclusively on its plot twists and production values - It's like the anime equivalent of MGS4, only instead of an awesome manly main character we get an emo kid who eventually turns into a sociopath.
Code Geass doesn't even try to be anything but drama. From what I've seen of the series there is almost no comedy whatsoever, which almost always leaves you with something that takes itself too seriously. The only thing that can be considered remotely comedic is the scene with Karin in the bunny suit, and that's more blatant fanservice than comedy.
It has more action than Death Note, but only because it uses the most generic, bland, obvious method of inserting action into your anime ever - mecha. For the longest time I could not for the life of me figure out why Code Geass had mecha when they weren't the focus of the story, their energy supply wasn't a major concern, and there was almost no explanation for the history of them whatsoever (including the obvious question of how a robot that big and well armored isn't too heavy to move). In other mecha anime, it's clearly explained that mecha are, in fact, a big deal.
Gurren Lagann, Evangelion, and many Gundam series explore this aspect of having giant robots. In Evangelion the mecha, EVAs, are technology stolen from "God" or something (which is a lame cop-out but it's better than nothing), they run on a power cord, and there's even an episode devoted to another country building an Eva unit with a portable nuclear power source. Additionally, the pilots are also carefully selected and in Rei's case even created, something that carries onto other mecha anime like Gundam SEED where pilots are genetically engineered. In Gurren Lagann, the mecha, Ganmen, are technology from the Beastman species that rules the planet and they're powered by the pilot's will to fight (which is the only thing strong enough to move them).
G-Gundam is set in the far future, where they presumably have the technology to maintain (or even power) the gundams, and it's explained that there are few more than 1 Gundam per each major superpower (Japan, China, America, Russia, etc.), each pilot has a unique fighting style (American boxer, Russian grappler, Chinese woman, Indian guy who can stretch his arms really far, Brazilian feral child, Hakan, etc.), as well as a very large support team, and they hold a tournament once in a while for...lulz basically (the last tournament was hosted by M. Bison to see which Gundam would be best suited to his new body, but then Akuma showed up in the Dark Gundam and performed the Raging Demon on him and he was killed until G-Gundam IV when Neo-Shadaloo brought him back to life). G-Gundam does a good job of not only characterizing the protagonist and being entertaining but also explaining almost everything that goes on in its universe (though one thing it doesn't explain fully is how that hand of his glows with an awesome POWERRR! or why its burning grip tells him who to defeat but whatever).
In all of these mecha anime, the concept of having giant robots is explained in varying amounts of depth. In Code Geass, however, it's not.
The mecha in Code Geass are there to make the action scenes more exciting, or rather, to create action scenes. They're not explained as to how they can perform at maximum efficiency without being away from a power source, why that have completely replaced tanks, APCs, and aircraft in the armed forces, or how long they've been around. The only purpose the mecha serve is to break up the drama with more action, but they neglect to explain it at all because what's more entertaining to watch - normal looking tanks and soldiers like we have in present day or awesome futuristic impractical giant robots? It's like the part with the jungle mutants in Uncharted - the creators of the game didn't explain it at all, they just wanted variety in enemy types.
The creators of Code Geass are basically saying "we don't have to explain why there are giant robots to the viewers, we can just put them in because they look cool". It's up there with fanservice and moe as one of the cheapest cop-outs you can do to get people to pay attention to your show or movie.
That is why Death Note and Code Geass are overrated. They have good ideas and are solid dramas but they take themselves too seriously and can't come up with any way to break the monotony of each episode than to use some of the oldest tropes in the history of anime and hope that the ludicrously high production values distract from the flaws.
tl;dr - Death Note and Code Gayass are for people who are easily amused by plot twists and shiny objects and there are a million better things you could be watching.
Player-4
See you in 25 years
Oh helllllllll no, I'm not about to read all that ****
Virtual Kruncher
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KassandraNova
Smash Master
Okay...wow...@_@
All I have to say is Eva still the bess. <_<
All I have to say is Eva still the bess. <_<
You're also not about to infract me for double posting apparently.
Player-4
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*infraction given*
Gotta keep my *****es in check >_>
Gotta keep my *****es in check >_>
Dark 3nergy
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gates da thing is tho um code geeeeuas is prob getting another season