MKGD: A new Bat watches over the town

[ぱみゅ]

Because you can still manage to win stuff with it.
Bair2gud

 

[KassandraNova]

I love using bair to combo into stuffs. So fun. :3

 

[ぱみゅ]

I wanted a witty answer to that, and only could think of "But, can it Bair?"

 

[KassandraNova]

Haha. xD

This is probably a stretch but, do any of you play wifi?

Would you like to play wifi some time?
All this recent smash hype makes me wanna play around again.

 

[sGale]

I play wifi from time to time, and I havn't lagged that much with americans, so we can give it a shot sometime I'm not home right now but I'm getting home tommorow, so anytime after that

 

[ぱみゅ]

Eh, I don't really play much Wifi (I've played like 3 times in my whole life), but if it is against one (or some) of the people here I wouldn't mind :3

 

[Heartstring]

I only use B-air occasionally when it's appropriate, I guess you could say it's a 'Bair necessity'
*yeeeaaaaahh.mp3*

But no, I don't do wifi. My internet is already terrible as it is. let alone on brawl

 

[Reckless4Christ]

I do wifi, but my connection is weird...I got a good connection with a friend in Ohio though so we could give it a shot XD

 

[I.S FoxMkloud]

I am glad that you and your friend got a good connection with you Oh, I kinda do wifi but not so regularly, I think since you are located in Cincy and I am located in Cincy as of now, I am sure we can probably expect a good connection. That is if you want to wifi...

 

[sGale]

I posted a video in the critique thread, so if you could check it out it would be appreciated

 

[Reckless4Christ]

@ I. S-I was talking about you anyway

 

[Master Raven]

I tried wifi again a little while back and I ****ing hate it now. I get little to no improvement from playing and I just get too frustrated from the lag. I sincerely hope Smash 4 has good wifi this time.

 

[etecoon]

I've always hated wifi but played it because I don't have anyone to practice with in person

Hoping SSB4 is better but the Wii U so far isn't encouraging, the console still doesn't have an ethernet jack unless you buy a USB accessory and the eshop still gives me the impression that Nintendo are still novices at this "internet" thing

 

[ぱみゅ]

I don't remember, is lag a system problem or a connectivity problem?

 

[Heartstring]

It's a bit of both, Of course you're going to lag more if the participants have a crappy connection, However the netcode for brawl was also GARBAGE. there was always at least a small bit of lag no matter what.

 

[Heru]

I was in German tournament last weekend and it did go really well. It was my first out of country tournament and I placed 2nd out of 50 participants. Videos will be uploaded to http://www.youtube.com/user/SSBBgermany/videos and here are full results: http://forum.germansmash.de/showthr...EHRFACHSTECKER&p=700323&viewfull=1#post700323

 

[sGale]

Congrats on getting second and BEATING LEON! :D

 

[TM_icecream]

I am better than Anti

 

[GOofyGV]

I play wifi, Just spam me messages and challenges etc and I play if I am free.​

 

[Heru]

I made this youtube playlist so everyone can find latest top MK sets more easily. I'm always going to keep it updated.

part 2

 

[ぱみゅ]

yay I love watching Meta Knight matches!

 

[Rizen]

Hi So as some people know I'm learning MK now. Is this a good place to post questions and game play stuff? I see some familiar avatars from other forums, lol .

I have a few questions.
My offstage MK game is ***; how can I improve and are there any spacing tactics I should know about?
How should the ZSS MU be played? ZSS has a lot of good anti-MK tools and I find her very hard to approach, to be specific.
Thanks

This was the social so I bumped it. I hope that's okay.
Edit, just saw Q&A thread. My bad. This can be my intro post instead.

 

[Master Raven]

Hi So as some people know I'm learning MK now. Is this a good place to post questions and game play stuff? I see some familiar avatars from other forums, lol .

I have a few questions.
My offstage MK game is ***; how can I improve and are there any spacing tactics I should know about?
How should the ZSS MU be played? ZSS has a lot of good anti-MK tools and I find her very hard to approach, to be specific.
Thanks

This was the social so I bumped it. I hope that's okay.
Edit, just saw Q&A thread. My bad. This can be my intro post instead.

For your first question, it'll depend on the matchup. In MK dittos you can basically go ham offstage as long as you're underneath mk and within range to attack (for instance you can glide to an MK offstage, cancel it and go below the MK and then either Nair, or Uair/UpB if he tornadoes depending on spacing. That's just one of many examples in that specific matchup). In other matchups like ZSS or Diddy it can get trickier because they have some ways of tricking an MK out from gimping them. There are some characters that simply don't die the moment they get offstage, but rather they get edgeguarded easily, so focus on edgeguarding first before going straight for crazy gimps.

Now your second question. I play Nick Riddle a lot so I've been learning a lot about this matchup (and recently Shaky is picking up ZSS so I get even more practice).

Glide attacks and tornado are my favorite ways to approach a ZSS. Glide attack is great because it outranges nearly everything she has, and it clanks with and sometimes even beats her side B if you time it properly, which isn't too hard. Tornado is great because it beats just nearly everything she does (obv don't do grounded tornado because it can be beat by her side B and grab). Granted she has answers to tornado spam; e.g. she can run fast enough from it to punish you, or she can carefully space a downB into the top-middle of it, or she can actually beat it with Dsmash if you don't space it correctly, but that is where you'll learn to use tornado in a smarter fashion. Just think of it like hadouken spam: there's an intelligent reasoning behind every hadouken; top players wouldn't just mindlessly spam it. Treat tornado the same way. Mainly use it when you think she's going to try to defend from your approaching.

The thing about ZSS that catches many players off guard is that her hitboxes are weird and deceptively long and/or wide, so people who don't know the matchup very well run into a lot of her **** easily.

A few examples: be aware of her Utilt as it has a wider hitbox on the first few frames than it may seem at first glance. Get the hang of the "dead zone" of her SideB, which is somewhat in the middle of the whip but a bit closer to her character model. Once you know this range, you can shield and you won't get pushed back when she throws it out, so you can grab her out of it at that point. Be careful of her Dsmashes when she's on platforms as the hitbox is huge enough that it's easy to get hit by it if you try rushing to her from below from the side.

Gimping ZSS is probably going to be the trickiest thing about this MU as she can mix up her recovery options with either a tether or a down B, the latter which grants her invincibility up to the apex (pun not intended) of her jump. I'm still learning this aspect of the matchup so I would recommend ESAM's thread on gimping ZSS. He explains it way better than I possibly could: http://smashboards.com/threads/dont-let-salem-win-again.333825/

 

[Rizen]

^Thanks a lot that was really helpful.

 

[NH Cody]

I feel really bad for Heru. he lost to pwii twice apparently. what a lame way to end it.

@ Heru you're still my favorite European brawler!

by the way, if any of you guys want to do some dittos online, or just in general want to friendly, I'd be glad to.

 

[Rizen]

^I'll wifi sometime My MK needs a lot more experience. Although if you're EC our connection might not be good :/ but it's worth a try

 

[NH Cody]

I think we played before lol - http://prntscr.com/2kphvz

the connection was okay

 

[Rizen]

I think we played before lol - http://prntscr.com/2kphvz

the connection was okay

Oh cool It's good we had a good connection. I can play now if you want?
Edit, oh well, maybe later.

 

[NH Cody]

how about next weekend?

 

[Rizen]

^Maybe. TBH, I never know when I'll be able to play ahead of time.

 

[~automatic]

Congratulations to the Apex finalists.

 

[Reckless4Christ]

So I leave for half a year and you guys are still on the same page...and I thought Fox Board stayed dead...

 

[ぱみゅ]

MKs are too busy winning money to socialize.

IwishIactuallygainedmoneywithmkrightnow....

 

[Rizen]

A lot of social threads are practically dead
Here's hoping things pick up with SSB4.

 

[Player-4]

Hello my MK brothers, long time no see.

I'm starting a YouTube channel for Pokemon, check it out!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMf9Lj0bp-M