Mirror Matches... Bleh.

[BurningCrusader777]

Whatever the character is, I outright suck at these. I suppose I'm used to having some sort of character disadvantage/advantage system within a match, but during a mirror, I would guess that it comes down to pure skill. But is there some sort of facet to a mirror match that I'm missing?

I mean, I lose to people who I would otherwise 2 or 3 stock. It's not good.

 

[SothE700k]

Just remember that whatever your weaknesses are will be their weaknesses. Exploit it and tear it apart.
Paying attention to how they play is very crucial at this point as well, so before you leap in, test the waters to see how what your opponent's style will be.

 

[Nicole]

i have alot of problems with dittos too...it seems like all of my character's advantages vanish somehow. my advice would be to play dittos as often as you can, it helps, and you can better know what to expect.

 

[Flamingo]

it does not come to pure skill. It's just spacing, and style ie. defensive/offensive, and also character-dependant thingies. Like I usually lose Sheik dittos because it's basically just ftilting the opponent into oblivion, instead of using bair walls, etc. However, I usually win MK dittos because it is usually just all about spacing.

^^^ROFL at G&W dittos... who can turtle moar?? xD ^^^

 

[1048576]

How is spacing important in a ditto? When you move the appropriate distance away, you're helping your opponent just as much.

I'd say ignore spacing. Pick up on your opponent's tenencies. As long as you have a counter for every option your opponent has, you will win.

 

[ExCeL 52]

I used to suck .. amazingly at dittos.
I found that if you watch what your opponent does wrong keep on striking at it and you will get a K.O.
I don't think dittos require that much skill but rely more on intellect.

 

[Pr0phetic]

You can be very good at other match-ups, and suck at dittos. Like someone above me said, just watch for you nown weaknesses, and don't put yourslf into the position to get punished.

 

[Atria]

I used to have this problem too strangely. IDK though because it only affected me when I played basic brawl on Wi-Fi. O_o Maybe it was the sight of seeing bad players which made me play differently? I dunno because that was a long time ago.

Maybe you have to play your character to their full potential while exploiting your character's natural weaknesses. Probably a better answer would be to fight in a position where your character normally doesn't excel against your opponent. Like Ike for example, his game normally revolves around out spacing your opponent with long range moves. Well, why don't you try and get up close and use Ike's quicker moves against your opponent once you get past their ranged moves? It MAY work, but I'm not too sure. This seems perplexing to think about even by my standards...

^^^ROFL at G&W dittos... who can turtle moar?? xD ^^^

Wait until you see ROB dittos...uggghhh...

 

[B!squick]

Wait until you see ROB dittos...uggghhh...

Bowser dittos are the same way usually. Lots of shielding going nowhere, lol.

 

[Jonas]

Bowser dittos are about who can land the most Side B grabs

 

[Vlade]

I have to admit I'm terrible at falco dittos.

Falco dittos are very lame anyway.

 

[Lawlmahbawls]

Falco, DDD, and Snake dittos arevthe worst imo

 

[ExCeL 52]

Captain Falcon, GanonDorf, Diddy Kong, Donkey Kong, and Luigis are the funnest :D

 

[Scott!]

Marth dittos have the potential to be hilarious and epic. The better you space, the more perfectly you are placed for the opponent. Retreating fairs back and forth do get silly. But a whiffed Fsmash when you're just out of range can be punished with a tipper Fsmash.

But when it comes to dittos in general, I always have issues. I have trouble guarding against the weaknesses of a character while at the same time exploiting them, which is what dittos are about. You have to think about your character in two very different ways at the same time. And this is hard for me.

 

[Sgt. Baker]

Ah Ganon ditto's.....Thunderstorming all match

 

[KRiMz0N]

it does not come to pure skill. It's just spacing, and style ie. defensive/offensive, and also character-dependant thingies. Like I usually lose Sheik dittos because it's basically just ftilting the opponent into oblivion, instead of using bair walls, etc. However, I usually win MK dittos because it is usually just all about spacing.

^^^ROFL at G&W dittos... who can turtle moar?? xD ^^^

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[ExCeL 52]

Ah Ganon ditto's.....Thunderstorming all match

How did you get your sig to appear with that little text?
I think the mods put like a new lock where you cant sig unless you write a certain number of text.. and Im sure thats not it.

 

[Aiur]

I love ZSS dittos.
Rule 1 of ZSS dittos, somebody is always stunned.

 

[BurningCrusader777]

How is spacing important in a ditto? When you move the appropriate distance away, you're helping your opponent just as much.

I'd say ignore spacing. Pick up on your opponent's tenencies. As long as you have a counter for every option your opponent has, you will win.

This could be my problem. I abuse Ike's fair to hell and back for spacing; I suppose I was just helping my opponent as well.

 

[ndayday]

Well if you're using Ike in dittos, remember they have the same weaknesses as you. Since a lot of his moves are quite slow, punish that. Those kind of matches really kind of test your knowledge on your own character's weaknesses...they're fun.

So basically, punish stuff that you usually get punished for.

 

[Adapt]

I love ZSS dittos.
Rule 1 of ZSS dittos, somebody is always stunned.

Argh! I hate ZSS dittos... I supposed to be able to outrange my opponent ****it. Her spacing game is completely destroyed, and its all about close combat

Side-B is practically useless, it's slow, and you both have the exact same range. Her up-smash shuts down any of her approaches from above. Her jab combo is also useless because it can be interrupted by her own jab... so eventually you are clanking jabs until you go too far apart.

I don't think I have any problems with any other mirror match except ZSS though

 

[kin3tic-c4jun-3]

it does not matter what the CHARACTERS weaknesses are you are BOTH going for those weknesses

In a ditto, u really need to look for the PLAYERS weakness.

Everyone has a certain style they play, u need to analys the METHOD ur opponent is using and exploit that.

understnading someones strategy and using ur character to adapt to that id far more important than exploiting the characters wekness - which u still have to do; EVERY match is like that ditto or not - it comes down to the metagame more than anything IMO

 

[ScubaF_ingSteve]

I'll admit it, the only good dittos are metaknight dittos. All other dittos are horrible and you don't play the character like you would in any other match-up. Wolf dittos suck, B-airs don't work well because of other b-airs, so it's shine time all the time.

 

[Jupz]

D3 dittos :D One grab=one stock :D

 

[TheSMASHtyke]

I suppose I'm used to having some sort of character disadvantage/advantage system within a match, but during a mirror, I would guess that it comes down to pure skill.

Not really. I've always had a different outlook on dittos.

Like almost every other match up, certain flaws and advantages are either dulled or accentuated. In dittos, it's the same procedure, but you take advantage of your own characters disadvantages. Whoever can identify the character's flaws first and realize how to deal with them will more then likely win. It doesn't exactly prove who has more skill then the other player, it just shows either who knows their character's weaknesses better, or who can better seek out flaws in a match-up.

Sometimes it really never even comes down to that. Luck and reflexes decide many matches on their own.

 

[Denzi]

D3 dittos :D One grab=one stock :D

Falco dittos = same thing.
Matrh dittos, however, are fun.

C.Falcon dittos are the best.

 

[ndayday]

Actually, No-Pikmin-Olimar dittos are the best.

C.Falcon is a close second.

 

[Crystanium]

I have had a lot of Samus dittos since the release of Brawl. At least more than twenty total. In fact, I brawled with a fellow yesterday who calls himself "Ditto," and he mains whoever you main. The way he used Samus was as if he mained Samus. It ended up 2-1, me winning. I had to win, because as a Samus main, I wasn't going to let someone who doesn't even main Samus beat me. In the end, ditto matches do not determine who is more skilled. It only helps you learn new things about the character you main or use as an alternative.

C.Falcon dittos are the best.

I couldn't agree with you more!

Actually, No-Pikmin-Olimar dittos are the best.

C.Falcon is a close second.

I saw a poll somewhere at All is Brawl about which character was most fun to use in dittos. Captain Falcon was ranked the most out of the other characters.

 

[J4pu]

diddy sounds like he would be the most fun in dittos
I mean 4 bananas? what's not to like about that?

 

[ShinTwist ScreamPaste]

Link dittoes are epic, and probably the most fun dittoes ever.

Sonci dittoes are the worst.. <_< Watch one, seriously, it's ********.

 

[Uffe]

They can be down right boring, but they also teach you stuff. At least they should. The sad thing is that they don't prove anything. If that were the case, I'd be able to beat people ViceGrip could beat. But I can't.

 

[:mad:]

Are you kidding? Dittoes are so fun, especially IC dittoes.

 

[Uffe]

Some ditto matches are fun, but some are boring as hell.

 

[Alzi]

I have to admit I'm terrible at falco dittos.

Falco dittos are very lame anyway.

Lol lassers all the way and reflectors.

I guess you just have to play a wierd playstyle so your opponent won't suspect the same thing from that certain character.

 

[Afropony]

Imagine 4 diddys on a custom stage of 4 blocks, sounds fun?

 

[:mad:]

Imagine 4 diddys on a custom stage of 4 blocks, sounds fun?

Better yet, 4 Snakes. Battle of the ftilts.

 

[SothE700k]

but some are boring as hell.

*coughDDDcough*

Call me sick, but I think Sonic dittos are extremely fun
And Craptain Falcon ones =D

 

[Plum]

IC dittos for the win.
Makes you realize how garbage they are without their grab game. Well guys like Lain will make them look amazing even without it but he is Lain..

 

[:mad:]

IC dittos for the win.
Makes you realize how garbage they are without their grab game. Well guys like Lain will make them look amazing even without it but he is Lain..

Yeah, but keep in mind. Lain would lose in lain dittoes any day.

 

[Redshad0w13]

Don't controller ports give the 1st player the advantage in dittos?