Miracle Of Light - Palutena in SSB4 (Featuring Cereza from Bayonetta-series)

[Erotic&Heretic]

I prefer Medusa over Hades. I still think that the chapter 9 bossbattle is quite epice and diverse, with an unnerving headscrew moment. While Hades, a fun character nonetheless, practically does nothing except shooting projectiles out of warts and zits.

Yeah, only one part of his boss battle is really adaptable, while Medusa have a lot to offer in her whole battle. Plus, being in Kid Icarus NES and Uprising (The GB game is never referenced in uprising), Medusa is more relevant and iconic to the serie than Hades.
But the Medusa thread have all the informations about why Medusa should be in the game!

 

[dezeray112]

Does anyone think Palutena (if she is in) should be a playable character from the start or as an unlockable character?

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

I'd expect Palutena to be a starter character.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Does anyone think Palutena (if she is in) should be a playable character from the start or as an unlockable character?

Unlockable seems to be more likely.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Hmm, I noticed I'm still not on the supporters list...

Anyways, I have a hypothetical question for you guys. After Palutena is confirmed and Sakurai announces DLC is a possibility, would you guys root for another KI character? If so, who would you want as a second KI newcomer?

I personally will be vouching for Hades. Love that guy and I am a sucker for bad guys.

It woulda been Phosphora if she wasn't just a trophy. I understand the liking for Medusa and Hades, but they're better suited for being bosses, just like the "purple dragon" routine. Tbh, I don't think a 3rd KI character would even be necessary after Palutena.


And idc what position Palutena's in as far as starter or unlockable goes, though starter preferred, just as long as she's playable. Then we can get with the details.

 

[Nimbostratus]

Does anyone think Palutena (if she is in) should be a playable character from the start or as an unlockable character?

I think she would be revealed before the game comes out to take full advantage of the trailers, but I could certainly still see her being an unlockable. It could really go either way- I don't think anyone really has a good idea of how Sakurai is planning to do it this time around with some him revealing previously unlockables so early.

 

[The Light Music Club]

I wouldn't be surprised if she's a starter. I mean we got all three Kirby characters at the start last time. I think she might be unlockable though, and if Ridley and King K are in them too, because people want to play as them alot, so they might use them to get you to play a ton of the modes in the game.

I just hope they have unlockable characters in general. I remember in Melee how excited I was when I realized Mewtwo was in the game. I plan on leaving the boards about a month before it comes out, because I think its fun not knowing who is in the game until you unlock them all.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Unlockables were one of my favorite things bout the games. You already have a nice amount of stuff at the beginning, but it gets bigger as you do different things, from classic mode completing to doing some event matches, character-exclusive stuff (I expect something to be Pit exclusive if Palutena's a secret character), and all of that, even special things that may require save files of different games or something like that to unlock (melee players will know about the Disken trophy, hope I spelled it right).
The secret characters were probably one of the best kinds of unlockables.

 

[dezeray112]

Unlockables were one of my favorite things bout the games. You already have a nice amount of stuff at the beginning, but it gets bigger as you do different things, from classic mode completing to doing some event matches, character-exclusive stuff (I expect something to be Pit exclusive if Palutena's a secret character), and all of that, even special things that may require save files of different games or something like that to unlock (melee players will know about the Disken trophy, hope I spelled it right).
The secret characters were probably one of the best kinds of unlockables.

I agree with this. I always love unlocking things especially with hidden characters. Its what brings the fun element into games.

 

[Glaciacott]

I love unlockables, but I want Palutena to be a starting character so I can just immediately use her and become better at her than others from the get go. You know, assuming it's not like before and Japan gets a month or so of headstart.

 

[ES. Dinah]

Well I think Palutena should be an unlockable character. It would be cool if you have to discover her in classic mode with Pit or something

Just speculating.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I don't know about her unlockability but She'd definitely be revealed pre-release.

 

[R_Trigger]

I personally don't care either way, as long she's playable, that's good enough for me. Wouldn't matter if she's unlockable or not, I will get to play as her regardless right?

 

[The Light Music Club]

Well I think Palutena should be an unlockable character. It would be cool if you have to discover her in classic mode with Pit or something

Just speculating.

I hate Pit, but I would play through so much of the game to get her. It'd be worth it.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Well I think Palutena should be an unlockable character. It would be cool if you have to discover her in classic mode with Pit or something

Just speculating.

If she was unlockable, I want her to be unlocked by beating Medusa as a boss to free Palutena from the statue in Palutena's temple.

 

[SethTheMage]

If you had to unlock her by using Pit, I'd be fine with this. He was my Brawl main, so it would be a piece of cake for me. Though, I don't care if Palutena is unlockable or not.

 

[R_Trigger]

I hate Pit

Spoiler

Nah, you can have your opinions.

 

[Louie G.]

I just have this nagging feeling that Palutena will be starter.
I don't have much to explain. Most of the good guys just seem starter-ish I suppose.
Unlockable is more villain and occasionally supporting character in my opinion.

 

[loganhogan]

If she was unlockable, I want her to be unlocked by beating Medusa as a boss to free Palutena from the statue in Palutena's temple.

you have very bright ideas

 

[FlareHabanero]

I hate Pit

Thus begins Admiral Pit's unparalleled rage that caused the extinction of humanity.

(Just kidding of course.)

 

[ES. Dinah]

>Implying she is actually stuck in the statue.

That is still a really good idea. I personally think Hades will be a boss.

 

[Deleted member]

>Implying she is actually stuck in the statue.

That is still a really good idea. I personally think Hades will be a boss.

Wouldn't be the first time she would be turned to stone, after all.

Speaking of bosses, you guys think Palutena's Temple will actually have some sort of stage boss? Wily's Castle got The Yellow Devil and Pyrosphere (presumably) has Ridley, so it probably wouldn't be to far off of an idea that Palutena's Temple would have one.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Wouldn't be the first time she would be turned to stone, after all.

Speaking of bosses, you guys think Palutena's Temple will actually have some sort of stage boss? Wily's Castle got The Yellow Devil and Pyrosphere (presumably) has Ridley, so it probably wouldn't be to far off of an idea that Palutena's Temple would have one.

Palutena's Temple is freakishly big and, from the looks of things, there's already a ton going on in it. I think a boss fight would be impractical there. I do think, however, that both games will have two Kid Icarus stages just because Sakurai's bias towards it is just a little too obvious *points at over 9000 new Kid Icarus items*

 

[Deleted member]

Palutena's Temple is freakishly big and, from the looks of things, there's already a ton going on in it. I think a boss fight would be impractical there. I do think, however, that both games will have two Kid Icarus stages just because Sakurai's bias towards it is just a little too obvious *points at over 9000 new Kid Icarus items*

Zelda still has more items than KI. I believe so anyway. And honestly I think a stage boss would fit better for a stage like that than any other stage, simply because it's NEVER going to be played seriously from the get-go, making it perfect for some crazy Hades/Medusa shenanigans.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Thus begins Admiral Pit's unparalleled raged that caused the extinction of humanity.

(Just kidding of course.)

I have to restrain myself, so we refer to the sad Pit pic that was posted earlier. Of course, that won't stop me from requesting pics on dA of Pit beating up characters I hate as revenge (like MK).

And I don't think there's be any bosses on Palutena's Temple. The only logical ones in a sense would be Hewdraw for attacking Skyworld, or Palutena, who'd be a playable character most likely anyways. Plus there's always Cragalanche for Reset Bomb Forest, but even then we don't know that yet.

And I approve of the KI items that we have. <3

 

[Fatmanonice]

Coincidentally enough, Game Explain released this video today and Palutena's Temple is, in fact, stupidly huge.

New Pork City was a pain enough to play on, this is literally a whole different level of frustration just waiting to happen.

 

[Miffa]

Coincidentally enough, Game Explain released this video today and Palutena's Temple is, in fact, stupidly huge.

New Pork City was a pain enough to play on, this is literally a whole different level of frustration just waiting to happen.

Every smash game is gonna have a bigger and bigger stage i believe

 

[Morbi]

Every smash game is gonna have a bigger and bigger stage i believe

I have to disagree; the insanity has to end at some point, I don't envision any stage getting much bigger than Palutena's Temple. I have been wrong before though... is this stage going to be on the 3DS? That is going to be a pain...

 

[Homelessvagrant]

I do think, however, that both games will have two Kid Icarus stages just because Sakurai's bias towards it is just a little too obvious *points at over 9000 new Kid Icarus items*

Well to be fair, Smash is starting to dig deep into the bottom of the well for items. I was trying to think of some possible items for a future smash title and the only things I could conjure up were some legendary items from fire emblem, Some niche AC tools and some joke items from Earthbound. Maybe I'm just not that all creative but I feel that Sakurai is just going all out on items this game. Some series just have better item choices I'd suppose.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Palutena's Temple is Wii U exclusive. We got Reset Bomb Forest for the 3DS. Oh well.

 

[Homelessvagrant]

I think the Reset Bomb factory looks like a much more enjoyable stage. It kind of reminds me of Castle Siege.

 

[Miffa]

I have to disagree; the insanity has to end at some point, I don't envision any stage getting much bigger than Palutena's Temple. I have been wrong before though... is this stage going to be on the 3DS? That is going to be a pain...

Just Wii u but it differently will get to a limit but i thought nothing would be bigger then hyrule temple and new pork city.

 

[andimidna]

I think Sakurai is going to want to have a more basic stage on the Wii U that represents Kid Icarus, so I think that will be coming back as a retro Wii U-only

 

[Admiral Pit]

That vid of Palutena's Temple was priceless, and I saw Pit pop up from the corner.

 

[ES. Dinah]

Yeah I saw the video. I am so excited to play on this stage as Palutena.

 

[Shalashaska]

Yeah I saw the video. I am so excited to play on this stage as Palutena.

 

[ES. Dinah]

^ Ahahahaha that would piss me off so much. I do not want my beautiful Palutena statue ruined by Alfonzo.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Sorry, but that joke has been done to death. Plus Palutena is a MUCH better statue than that, that... guy. Rather it be a statue of Pit.

 

[Burigu]

Zelda still has more items than KI. I believe so anyway. And honestly I think a stage boss would fit better for a stage like that than any other stage, simply because it's NEVER going to be played seriously from the get-go, making it perfect for some crazy Hades/Medusa shenanigans.

I don't see any Medusa and Hades shenaninegorangas happening in this stage look at it it is so beautiful and peaceful to have that kind of underworld theme, if this was the Chaos Kin arc version of the temple that will be more credible the stage already has lots of hazards

 

[Erotic&Heretic]

Coincidentally enough, Game Explain released this video today and Palutena's Temple is, in fact, stupidly huge.

New Pork City was a pain enough to play on, this is literally a whole different level of frustration just waiting to happen.

New Pork City was a pain because the stage was not really well balanced, plateform wise.

Spoiler: New Pork City

Almost every plateforms are at the bottom half of the stage. It's really empty on the upper half, making the blast lines really far from the actual stage.

Spoiler: Palutena's Temple

Palutena's Temple, on the other hand, seems to have plateforms everywhere. There's just the right upper half that have some space. It also look better, like if it was 3 or for stages in one (left upper half, right part, and the "dungeon" left bottom part), compared to New Pork City chaotic layout. Personally, I felt I could only fight properly near the breakable bridge.

Also, I realise they both have breakable bridge. And again, Palutena's Temple placement of the said bridge seems way better.