Wait wait wait.
Charizard was better than Squirtle?
Sorry fatmanonice, but, NUP.
Like so nup, unfortunately staling + fatigue exists but,
Squirtle had a kill throw, charizard did not.
Squirtle's hurtbox size was in the smallest class, one of the best single qualities in the game.
All of squirtle's aerials are significantly better than Charizards. Like Squirtle's uair, bair and fair are some of the best in the game. Charizard's aerials are ALL bad. ALL OF THEM ARE BAD.
Squirtle has a frame 1 jab. Which was never appropriately used in the meta (like how ZSS uses her frame 1 jab).
Charizard's moveset is slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. So slow. I'm the guy who originally sat down and did PT's frame data. He even has a bugged out jump squat animation that disallows him from buffering aerials out of it
All zard really has on squirtle is weight, glide (the worst out of the three in every aspect) and not being grab released into stuff. They both have great grab ranges, they both have great dashes, Squirtle has a better walk speed and aerial mobliity. As a Marth main who trained with a PT main for the first 2-3 years of Brawl, Squirtle had the best chance of being able to beat Marth although he dies at any point above 15% from a grab because at least squirtle has options, unlike Charizard who was a big and slow without any significant quality other than grab range without any strong pressuring positions other than edge guarding. All zard ever had was Rock Smash as a gimmick.
Let me not get into the scenario where any character with a tech chase could come close to 0-deathing zard
(Zard has the worst back tech roll in the game, in fact its so bad that it literally will not go behind you if you're standing ontop of him).
