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I dunno. When Sakurai streamed the Robin trailer, he later said that "We are now nearing the bottom of the pile for reveal trailers." Yet we've only gotten Shulk's trailer since then. Unless they did a bad translation of Sakurai's words, his phrasing still leads me to believe he hasn't shown them all yet. Also, something tells me Sakurai himself would confirm whether or not he has shown all the trailers.
... did they seriously make Wario an unlockable character?
Why wouldn't they? I don't see the problem with him being unlockable, really.
They probably sacrificed him for Rosalina.
WAAAAAAA-y not? If you love him, you have to work for him. And in the end, you'll end up loving him as much as he loves gold. <3
I just see it as pointless, especially if you have the likes of Toon Link and Luigi available from the get-go. The only upside to this is that it can give people some hope that Lucas and the Ice Climbers aren't completely gone.
I think it's just mid speed at the moment. There's alot of belief in the leaked roster now with who's left to be properly exposed, whilst there's high speculation amongst the majority that there's still more hidden characters left, since the various sources back the claim that the leaker hadn't unlocked All-Star mode yet.
For people who think this is the final roster, it has reached its destination.
That roster is no way the starting roster.
Well... Shulk is from
That's stupid. Why would Toon Link be a starter? He makes more sense as an unlock able. There is no good reason for him not be an unlockable.
There are 36 characters on that screen, so it's only missing Lucina and the Mii Fighters.Let's see, roughly 34 of the 38 characters we know of thus far are playable from the get go. Lucina, Miis, and two other characters I can't properly think of are not on that starting roster curiously enough... oh and weegee is FINALLY a starter for once which I strongly suspected he was for a while following his reveal.
The leak isn't 100 percent legit?
Oh, nice find. That definitely means the reveals are done. Seems like a good mix of starting characters. Good thing the 3rd party characters are available right away, always thought it was weird how they advertised Snake and Sonic on the back cover of Brawl without actually being able to play them for a while.
Also, why's Shulk next to the third parties? He's closer to Nintendo than Pokemon!
My guess is that Shulk's an exotic flavor if you will, so while Nintendo does more or less own the company who made his game, not many people are terribly aware of him as XenoBlade had a "limited" run when it was released here in the states a few years back.
This. Sakurai himself said on Shulk's PotD that they had a hard time trying to bring Shulk into the game, but it paid off. I don't know if that has to do with getting permission to use him, or if he had a tough moveset to figure out, or how to fit him into the game, etc.
Are you asking me if that's what I think, or suggesting it as an explanation for the strange CSS arrangement? We've gotten confirmation that the revealed characters (except Lucina) appear in that order... The only thing that could be fake is the placement of the clones. That seems doubtful though. It is still strange and if that's the final roster then I think Sakurai did a bad job of arranging the CSS.
Shulk belongs to Nintendo. He would have no more trouble with him than he'd have with any other Nintendo owned character, unless Monolith Soft, for some unknown reason, was strangely resistant. But even that would be a strange reason to place him there.
@Relax Alax did a video where he suggested that it was done to avoid splitting the clones over two rows. This seems like a reasonable explanation to me, at least.
Place him after WFT and before Dr. Mario. Simple enough. He's from a single-rep series, he's not a clone, he's not a 3rd party, so why isn't he placed with the other Nintendo single-rep series characters?
There's not really any empty space in any of the other rows. If you put him with Wii Fit Trainer and what not, another character has to move to where he was.
There's room for another character on that row, actually.
I think we're looking at different images here. Are you talking about the leak? Because the one I see has every single square filled on all the rows except the bottom one.
Yes, I'm talking about the leak.
Neither does the leak. All star hadn't been unlocked yet.
Whether the leak has the full roster or not is precisely what is being debated
Whats more odd is why Yoshi is in between Rosalina and BJ, Why not near Wario?Whether the leak has the full roster or not is precisely what is being debated
My point was that Shulk being between the clones and the 3rd parties doesn't make sense. If the leak has the full roster, then his placement is weird. Basically my whole point was saying that the leak doesn't look like it's the full roster. Jeez.
Well yeah, maybe Wario will be revealed in September or maybe he's unlockable. But yeah, why would they show this off if it isn't the starting roster I guess? You can already view all the characters on the site so I doubt they'd make this just to show off characters.
Anyway, I'm glad the team has decided to make 3rd parties starters this time, as I suggested~ I mean, they're no secret anyway. Kiiinda surprised to see Lucina is an unlockable though... 
Screenshots are subject to change, so maybe the final release's starting roster will be different.
Nah, he just said that they have never revealed Luigi pre-release before, but since it was the Year of Luigi why not? Some people took that as his reveal being an exception.
