brinboy789
Smash Champion
I feel that the boards are almost dead, so i will make this new thread on how to deal with specific moves with MK.
Week 1: Snakes F-Tilt
Week 2: ?
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Metaknight Official "How do I deal with this move" Thread
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Sushi-Man
Smash Ace
A perfectly spaced fair will out range the first hit of snake's f-tilt. However, the second hit of snake's f-tilt will hit mk even if it is perfectly spaced. Also, when you are hit by the first part of snake's f-tilt, immediately DI the other way and continuously use up-air to reduce knockback since you guaranteed to get hit by the second part of f-tilt.
The problem is that "perfectly spaced ftilts (or dtilts)" just don't work against Snake to beat his moves. He can use mines and grenades to control the stage and force MK into positions where he cannot space so well or use any move at max range. If MK stays away he can't do anything except finding himself blown up by Nades. If he wants to attack Snake he has to goo for a grab perhaps, since Snake can just take another Nade and shield drop it...either way, against Snake you shouldn't rely on spacing and range unless you have a decent projectile, something MK hasn't.
I think the best way for MK to beat the ftilt is trying to Powershield the first hit. I haven't tested it yet but I'm sure that you get a guaranteed Shuttle Loop after powershielding the first hit of ftilt thanks to the invincibility frames of the Loop (the invincibility frames will override the 2nd hit). I don't think that Powershield to Dashgrab works but maybe the grab armor will at least prevent knockback (although the 21% of the ftilt are the biggest problem....that's more than a 5th of MKs stock mofos!!).
I think the best way for MK to beat the ftilt is trying to Powershield the first hit. I haven't tested it yet but I'm sure that you get a guaranteed Shuttle Loop after powershielding the first hit of ftilt thanks to the invincibility frames of the Loop (the invincibility frames will override the 2nd hit). I don't think that Powershield to Dashgrab works but maybe the grab armor will at least prevent knockback (although the 21% of the ftilt are the biggest problem....that's more than a 5th of MKs stock mofos!!).
capemkills
Smash Journeyman
What I like to do against a good snake is approach at the appropriate time. Don't approach when the snake is ready for it. A good snake makes sure that there are 2 grenades out in order to keep metaknight away. When he pulls out his second grenade run in and dash grab him. I myself prefer the downthrow on snake due to snakes knockback...its perfect for getting him in the air. A decent downthrow on snake can end up with a couple ariels or even a nado.
Back to the f tilt of snake. Mentioned above I don't think that you can shield grab after the first hit, I found it best to try and shield the whole attack rather then to try to grab him out of his tilt. Another thing you need to worry about is after the first hit of the f-tilt, snake can stop the f-tilt and get a good up-tilt off, be ready for this especially if you get tripped up from the first f-tilt hit. And if you chose to try and shield grab the snake and this happens...bye bye MK.
Back to the f tilt of snake. Mentioned above I don't think that you can shield grab after the first hit, I found it best to try and shield the whole attack rather then to try to grab him out of his tilt. Another thing you need to worry about is after the first hit of the f-tilt, snake can stop the f-tilt and get a good up-tilt off, be ready for this especially if you get tripped up from the first f-tilt hit. And if you chose to try and shield grab the snake and this happens...bye bye MK.
Crizthakidd
Smash Champion
we only need 4 moves that beat MK
gernades
ddds grabs
olimar
bannana combos
other then that we basically have the beastestest char.
gernades
ddds grabs
olimar
bannana combos
other then that we basically have the beastestest char.
PottyJokes
Smash Apprentice
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shield the 2nd hit. dash grab him afterwards, pummel him to grab release him off the stage, then run off nair nair nair into a shuttle loop. situational, but works well.
_Phloat_
Smash Champion
brinboy789
Smash Champion
looks good so far. keep it going! 
i wouldnt know about it cause i dont play good snakes much. its more G&W and ROB
i wouldnt know about it cause i dont play good snakes much. its more G&W and ROB
Rocann
Smash Lord
Olimar is my favorite move too XD
brinboy789
Smash Champion
updated first post, what should next week be?
That's what I said.......
No, I meant for the next move to be discussed.
Justblaze647
Smash Lord
imo, Putting the word "official" in a thread's topic doesn't make it a good idea...
imo...
imo...
Uh...why the hell would MK need help dealing with his own move? All MK has to do to beat that is float around and dair.
brinboy789
Smash Champion
pits arrows, what do you think?
Infinitysmash
Smash Champion
Power shield and tornado.
brinboy789
Smash Champion
...****. lol. which move should i do next?
GodotAA
Smash Ace
Ganon's up tilt what do you guys think.
Affinity
Smash Hero
I think we should discuss Warlock Punch first.
GodotAA
Smash Ace
i was serious what are you talking about
Affinity
Smash Hero
Jokes usually aren't lol
capemkills
Smash Journeyman
robs d-smash?
Affinity
Smash Hero
Shield > Punish
Rh1thmz
Smash Journeyman
I love this thread.
Anyways, on a more serious note, I'd say that this would be better off being a question and answer thread of a specific sort. We really don't need a week's worth of discussion on one move (except possibly the unstoppable move that Gates showed us...?). This topic is more of a quick question, quick answer thread. That would make it more fitting to go into the one that we already have, though...
By the way, Gates, you're one of my favorite people on the boards.
Anyways, on a more serious note, I'd say that this would be better off being a question and answer thread of a specific sort. We really don't need a week's worth of discussion on one move (except possibly the unstoppable move that Gates showed us...?). This topic is more of a quick question, quick answer thread. That would make it more fitting to go into the one that we already have, though...
By the way, Gates, you're one of my favorite people on the boards.
Affinity
Smash Hero
Wavesexing > MK
PaintedGhost
Smash Journeyman
How do MK's handle tornado and Shuttle loop? Shuttle loop and tornado?
How dos I deals with marf's countar? it completely outranges myyyy Mk's everythang, and has invincibility brooms.
Babar-Thorbald
Smash Apprentice
Well, it's not such a big deal, marth's countar is more a problem for him than for the opponnent, because if it fails, the punishing will be freakingly easy...
In conclusion, this attack has less advantages than it's defaults, because the percent you give and the knockback of the attack are less importants that what you'll take if you're punished...
Since it's only a mindgame stuff, if you want to deal with it, you only have to see if your opponnent abuse of it or not.
In conclusion, this attack has less advantages than it's defaults, because the percent you give and the knockback of the attack are less importants that what you'll take if you're punished...
Since it's only a mindgame stuff, if you want to deal with it, you only have to see if your opponnent abuse of it or not.
brinboy789
Smash Champion
snakes utilt next...?
magikguy
Smash Lord
yes show that broken up tilt next :D
Lets do flaco's broken lasers
Sushi-Man
Smash Ace
Falco's lasers definately.