Melee Tournament Mafia! Game Over, Town Wins!

[Purple]

vote: Forzenflame

 

[Purple]

oh my goooooood

vote: frozenflame

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Btw I've yet to read your response to AM's case against ya. So bla bla here we go:

No, you aren't.

Yeah they don't just spontaneously die. Thanks genius. But obviously the ONLY TWO WAYS a mason recruiter can die are if a vig kills them or they misrecruit right? Like there's absolutely NO WAY that an indy killer or mafia could kill a mason recruiter ever. Like mason recruiters are bullet proof to those abilities, right?

Do I sound ****ing ******** yet? Because that's what YOU sound like.

K. Since you obviously can't seem to comprehend any form of intellect whatsoever, I'll tend to the absolute lowest common denominator in my further responses:

Read AM's response with reasoning as to why Tery wouldn't be targeted by an indy or maf. Cuz it makes sense to everybody except to you. Cuz you're scum. Ya see where I'm goin?

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Tery failed to recruit me pre-game? Because you said you got that info in his role PM.

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Actually ya know what, since you can't express yourself for ****, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

So what you're saying is you asked Tery what the results of his N1 action were. You're saying that Tery got a response from X1 before the night was over and before he died (because if he told you after he got the notice saying he died, that'd be cheating. Assuming you guys were actually masoned which I still highly doubt) saying that his recruitment failed. And then he told you this in private.

So you guys think that it's perfectly normal for someone to get confirmation of what happened with their night action before all night actions are resolved and day phase begins, which would allow people who died in the night to talk to people if they had the opportunity to, which would allow people who shouldn't have ever received the info they had because they'd be dead, to spread that information, BUT it ISN'T OK for me to receive notification at the start of the day from X1 that I was targeted for recruitment and that it failed.

Impressive double standard you have there.

What I'm saying is that Tery COULD NOT have received any notice of his death until the Day start when he read it, because he was notified of his Night action failing even before the Day phase starting. And OF COURSE all Night actions were resolved, because... HIS RECRUITMENT FAILED. Unless X1 had an error in modding, I'm sure this argument is no more.

And hell, to even FURTHER the argument: In YT Memes, a game that I hosted, I remember always giving Night action info to all after going through NAR, and before the Day started. Yes I hosted it.

Strawman. Moar.

But even beyond the fact that what you're claiming to know doesn't make any sense, you're still exaggerating what you allegedly know.

You're claiming to know that Tery targeted me AND that him targeting me was the reason for his death.

Yes, because I just so happened to guess that both: Crew Leader = Mason Recruiter, AND that Tery targeted you. Man even I know I'm not that smart. And OF F***ING COURSE I'm gonna say that him targeting you was the reason for his death. I'm that f***ing confident.

Did you get a message from X1 saying that? Did he PM you saying "Yo gord, Tery targeted FF but FF was scum so he died"?

No, he ****ing didn't. And unless you DID get that message, you don't ****ing KNOW ****. You're lying, whether you're town OR scum.

You're just making so much s*** out of something you KNOW is justified. If you're gonna try to argue, at least argue something that MIGHT budge.

If you're mason'd with a recruiter, and recruiter TELLS YOU who he targeted, and the recruiter died, well then what the f*** are you gonna think happened? Indy/Maf NK? Nuhoho, not when it's Tery. Vig NK? NOT EVEN, cuz why the eff is that vig gonna shoot N1? I know I wouldn't.

Yeah that is the standard answer. I'm not looking for the standard answer. Are you that dense? Obviously I was watching to see if anyone argued with conviction either for possibility that Tery was killed or for the possibility that he did a misrecruit (as I said to AM, "****ed up")

I assume you asked adumb to follow a scum read? Why in the F*** would scumAdumb say something like misrecruit? Why in the f*** would ANY scum say something like misrecruit?

Thanks for putting words in my mouth. I was told that I was targeted for recruitment. I didn't get Tery's name, but based on his D1 play AND his flip it's pretty obvious it was him who did it.

I'm Kage the Warrior, Town Patriot. I received notice that Tery tried to recruit me last night but that it failed for obvious reasons (for those of you who don't know, a Patriot is a role that is unable to be recruited). Someone else killed him, because it sure as hell wasn't me.

I'm Kage the Warrior, Town Patriot. I received notice that Tery tried to recruit me last night but that it failed for obvious reasons (for those of you who don't know, a Patriot is a role that is unable to be recruited).

I'm Kage the Warrior, Town Patriot. I received notice that Tery tried to recruit me last night

I received notice that Tery tried to recruit me last night

You're oh so very welcome.

And funny how you seem to KNOW it was Tery who recruited you, and that I can't possibly KNOW that you were the reason that Tery died.

If you're gonna bulls*** at least be consistent.

Wait, how is going from "attacking FF on Day 1" to "attacking FF on Day 2" a change of heart?

Do you even know what that means?

And sorry, it isn't my burden of proof to explain for you why you would decide to make such a ****ty claim and try to get me lynched, whether your are town or scum.

Tell me where I attacked you D1. Go. I dare you.

/facepalm

I've explained this in my two scenarios above, but the point is you DIDN'T HAVE TO KNOW TERY ACTUALLY TARGETED ME LAST NIGHT TO MAKE THIS CLAIM OF YOURS.

If you are actually his starting mason partner, then yeah, you would know. I've explained this.

But if you were scum you could STILL MAKE THE CLAIM. Mason recruiters don't typically start with partners. I've never seen that before and I'm sure no one else in this game has either. As scum and knowing this, and knowing that Tery was a mason recruiter based on his flip, you would KNOW that he could not have possible recruited anybody into his masonry successfully because he either A.) Misrecruited or B.) Was NK'd, which comes BEFORE RECRUITMENT in NAR.

With this knowledge you can safely claim to be his partner, since it would be completely unverifiable since no one else could possibly have entered into a masonry with Tery. It's really not that hard to understand.

Point's been beaten to the ground. K. Let's move on.

Why didn't you respond to me at 12:01 last night?

If you went to my profile and actually checked my previous log in times to see the last time that I logged in was at 12:01 last night (like I did with you), then I'll ask my brother if he was using the computer that late, cuz I was sure as hell knocked out.

No it doesn't, but if you are town you obviously didn't think clearly about all the info you really had and thus were confident for the wrong reasons, or you are scum and were confident about this gambit OR someone else is pulling the strings and told you to do it who WAS confident.

I've been here for almost a year now.

(warningWIFOM)Tell me. Do you really think I'd be able to present that much confidence as scum... even WITH someone else pulling the strings?

Your move, FF.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Queen taken by a pawn? What a horrible chess player.

 

[Purple]

Clearly a bishop.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Skim moar?

It's a bishop. Only second in oddball-ness to the pawn.

 

[Purple]

I will say that's still a bad trade.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I will say that you're insane, and that I'd love to play you in chess.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Scum Gord:

Gord may or may not have killed Tery at night. Gord sees Tery flip Crew Leader. Gord figures out that this probably means he is a Mason Leader. Mason Leader's usually start alone, and since there has only been one night, there is no way anyone could have been recruited into the masonry with Tery in order to confirm or deny whether or not Tery got a successful recruit or failed to recruit, the previous night (since Killing comes before Recruiting via NAR). Knowing that pretending to be Tery's starting mason partner cannot be CC'd or verified in any way, Gord claims it, and then just bull****s that I was Tery's target and the reason he died, even though he actually has no idea Tery targeted me (unless he also has some tracking or watching ability). He happens to be right that Tery targeted me (not hard to predict, since Tery had me as a strong town read D1). Because he's scum and really doesn't have ANY information, he doesn't know what info he would actually likely have in his faked position and overstretches what he would ACTUALLY theoretically know, thus saying stupid **** like OMG FROZEN IS WHY TERY DIED DERP DERP.

This has a horribly large amounts of assumptions in it. To be frank, I think it's absurd to think that it's likely that a scum gord, or really any scum, managed to deduce that the crew leader = mason leader AND that the mason leader targeted you Frozen, all so to come up with some master plan to lynch FF. That is an extremely risky move for scum to make, as if they were wrong, it would cost them their life later on.

To use a term of AM's, your case against Gord seems like FUD FF.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Clearly a bishop.

Sheesh, quiet you. We can all make mistakes.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

I will say that's still a bad trade.

Is it a trade? It doesn't really look like it from looking at the board.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Well I DO lose a knight.

But hey ahh well I'm up 6 points.

This has a horribly large amounts of assumptions in it. To be frank, I think it's absurd to think that it's likely that a scum gord, or really any scum, managed to deduce that the crew leader = mason leader AND that the mason leader targeted you Frozen, all so to come up with some master plan to lynch FF. That is an extremely risky move for scum to make, as if they were wrong, it would cost them their life later on.

Yea basically this. But that whole section has too much WIFOM to even comprehend.

 

[Dooms]

Sex Robot Sex Robot

(He's made of Sexxxxxxxx)

 

[th3kuzinator]

He'll hump the barzzzz

 

[th3kuzinator]

Votecount 11 - [6/10] - Deadline is the 31st

Gordito [1] - Frozenflame
Adumbrodeus [1] - Red Ryu
BeatStick [0]
Vult Redux [1] - AM
frozenflame751 [4] - Gordito, Roxy, Joey, AM
Sworddancer [0]
Roxy [2] - Adumbrodeus, Vult
Aggressive Mediation [0]
Joey [0]
Red Ryu [0]

Not Voting [2] - Beat, Sword

Strikes:

AM [1]

 

[Purple]

Hour much do queens cost? 9? Rooks 7 and bishops/knights 5?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Rooks 5, bishops and knights 3.

some like to think that bishops are 3.5 though.

 

[Vult Redux]

Unvote, Vote: FF

/contribution

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

This piece right here got me

If anyone could tell me if patriots do in fact, get notified upon recruit attempts, then I'd probably STILL be leaning towards FF's lynch due to statistically speaking, FF's POV is absolutely absurd.

You're ********.

Being notified of being targeted isn't necessarily a related to a role's powers. Notifications like that can be left up to the mod's discretion.

For ****s sake, according to Gordito, TERY WAS NOTIFIED DESPITE THE FACT THAT HE WAS KILLED THAT HIS RECRUITMENT FAILED. Mod's do this **** differently in every game, whether or not the way they do it is necessarily the cleanest or most fair way (which IMO, telling people who died during the night ANYTHING is completely unfair, since ya know, they DIED).

My POV is not absurd. It's completely plausible ESPECIALLY considering the standards that Gords alleged claim sets.

K. Since you obviously can't seem to comprehend any form of intellect whatsoever, I'll tend to the absolute lowest common denominator in my further responses:

Read AM's response with reasoning as to why Tery wouldn't be targeted by an indy or maf. Cuz it makes sense to everybody except to you. Cuz you're scum. Ya see where I'm goin?

AM has a theory as to why an indy/vig likely wouldn't target Tery. I have a theory as to WHY they would. Last time I checked, I furthered my reasoning for why my theory was the more likely case and answered to AM's contentions. Last time I checked, I had points still standing and AM didnt. Last time I checked, you haven't said **** to prove my theory otherwise.

But I guess in you head, just agreeing with AM is enough to prove him right and me wrong. I guess appealing to the majority makes people right and isn't a logical fallacy anymore. I guess when Gordito thinks and speaks logic goes right out the window. That certainly explains why I have so many votes on me.

Like seriously I can't get over you arguing that just because people don't agree with me I'm wrong and must be scum. Like that's seriously elementary school level arguing.

"LOL DUDE NO ONE AGREES WITH YOU SO YOU MUST BE WRONG!"

I can't believe people believed you over me.

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I was making fun of you numbskull.

What I'm saying is that Tery COULD NOT have received any notice of his death until the Day start when he read it, because he was notified of his Night action failing even before the Day phase starting. And OF COURSE all Night actions were resolved, because... HIS RECRUITMENT FAILED. Unless X1 had an error in modding, I'm sure this argument is no more.

I literally lol'd at this.

OBVIOUSLY X1 did not completely resolve all night actions at once. He told Tery his recruitment failed and Tery was then allegedly able to tell you this. Then the day started and Tery died.

If X1 resolved all night actions at once, TERY WOULD NOT HAVE RECEIVED THIS NOTICE. He just would have come up dead at the start of day, because the FINAL STATUS OF TERY AFTER ALL ACTIONS WERE RESOLVED WOULD BE THAT TERY WAS DEAD. Dead people don't receive notification of jack ****. They also can't talk to anyone. Like you clearly have no ****ing clue what you're talking about.

And hell, to even FURTHER the argument: In YT Memes, a game that I hosted, I remember always giving Night action info to all after going through NAR, and before the Day started. Yes I hosted it.

Strawman. Moar.

Congratulations, you did something some way and so apparantly that must be the way all mods do it.

Also if you gave info to dead people in your game you didn't resolve all night actions completely and at the same time and didn't properly follow NAR. That's just bad modding. Whatever though, I can't tell people how to mod and if people wanna mod like **** and use that as a basis for argument I don't have much to say in response.

And what exactly did I strawman again? It's kind of hard to strawman someone when all you're doing is listing fundamental facts about what could or could not be known based on game mechanics. Keep throwing out terms you don't understand though, it entertains me.

Yes, because I just so happened to guess that both: Crew Leader = Mason Recruiter, AND that Tery targeted you. Man even I know I'm not that smart. And OF F***ING COURSE I'm gonna say that him targeting you was the reason for his death. I'm that f***ing confident.

The point is that you had the information available TO make that guess and TO MAKE THAT CLAIM. You've just admitted yourself that if you were to do that you'd do it poorly, which you did in this game.

And again you missed the point. The point wasn't whether or not you would say you thought Tery died because he targeted me, it was that YOU DON'T KNOW FOR SURE AND HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING, YET YOU CLAIM TO ABSOLUTELY KNOW. In fact, you just admitted right now that you don't ABSOLUTELY KNOW, you're just confident that he died as a result of targeting me.

How are people believe you over me again? You haven't dealt with a single one of my arguments. *sigh* It's like Food Court mafia all over again.

You're just making so much s*** out of something you KNOW is justified. If you're gonna try to argue, at least argue something that MIGHT budge.

If you're mason'd with a recruiter, and recruiter TELLS YOU who he targeted, and the recruiter died, well then what the f*** are you gonna think happened? Indy/Maf NK? Nuhoho, not when it's Tery. Vig NK? NOT EVEN, cuz why the eff is that vig gonna shoot N1? I know I wouldn't.

lol I'm making **** out of something I know is justified? More like I'm calling you the **** out for lying about what you actually know and now you're trying to move the goalposts and act like that doesn't matter.

And just because people won't budge on something even though they are lying/wrong doesn't mean I shouldn't argue it when I know I'm right.

What would I think. At first, I'd probably think it was the result of a misrecruit. I never said that wasn't a plausible assumption given the information you had at first. But now you have MY CLAIM, which DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS YOUR INITIAL THEORY. Just because your theory is plausible doesn't make it 100% true, and it ALSO doesn't mean that you can just disregard other plausible explanations.

I never said it was outrageous for anyone to think that Tery died because of a misrecruit. I DID say it was outrageous for anyone to argue that Tery being night killed by someone and targeting me the Patriot was an impossibility or severely unlikely. Because it isn't. It's a very possible scenario and explanation.

I love how your argument for why an indy wouldn't NK Tery N1 is "nuh uh cuz it's Tery" and your argument for a vig not killing him is "why the eff would a vig shoot N1"?

Wow. Impressive. Elementary school arguments again. Bravo.

I assume you asked adumb to follow a scum read? Why in the F*** would scumAdumb say something like misrecruit? Why in the f*** would ANY scum say something like misrecruit?

Uhhh because when a Mason leader dies it's a likely possibility that they ****ing misrecruited?

You're ****ing contradicting yourself here.

You JUST ARGUED that it's really intuitive to think that the reason a mason recruiter would die at night is as the result of a misrecruit.

And now you come and argue that it's ridiculous for anyone to answer my question of "how do you think Tery died" with the answer of "as a result of a misrecruit.

Wow. If you're gonna spout nonsense, at least be consistent.

You're oh so very welcome.

I said Tery because I knew it was Tery since I saw his flip of mason recruiter. Who the hell else could have tried to recruit me? I received notice from X1 that I was targeted for recruitment. The mason recruiter comes up dead the next day. This mason recruiter had me as a town read all D1. Man, sure was hard to figure out who the person who targeted me was.

And this snide remark coming from the guy who got all bent out of shape when I made fun of him for ****ing saying role PM when he meant nothing of the sort. Stay classy bro. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

And funny how you seem to KNOW it was Tery who recruited you, and that I can't possibly KNOW that you were the reason that Tery died.

I don't KNOW 100% modconfirmed fact that tery targeted me but I sure as hell am a lot closer to knowing than you are to knowing I'm the reason he died. The likelihood he was NK'd coincidentally far exceeds the likelihood that I was targeted by a DIFFERENT RECRUITING ROLE IN THE SAME GAME.

Tell me where I attacked you D1. Go. I dare you.

You called my focus on mechanics odd in 406: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=12713750#post12713750

And you said you were persuing me in 590: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=12720218#post12720218

Minor attacks, but stances against me none the less.

Point's been beaten to the ground. K. Let's move on.

Why? Because you don't feel like admitting you lied?

If you went to my profile and actually checked my previous log in times to see the last time that I logged in was at 12:01 last night (like I did with you), then I'll ask my brother if he was using the computer that late, cuz I was sure as hell knocked out.

Yeah, because if I don't respond to people's most recent posts every time I'm on SWF I'm scum. You got me. I don't ever come on SWF for any other reason OTHER than to respond to people in mafia. Damn your meta is good.

I've been here for almost a year now.

(warningWIFOM)Tell me. Do you really think I'd be able to present that much confidence as scum... even WITH someone else pulling the strings?

Yes. That's the WHOLE POINT OF SOMEONE ELSE PULLING THE STRINGS. Your confidence is irrelevant if you have someone directing you.

Whatever, logic is lost on you.

lol at you calling my logic about the Gordscum scenario WIFOM in 392. What a ****ing joke you don't even know how to properly use WIFOM.

Yeah I'm done with this game. My claim is entirely consistent with the current scenario and facts at hand. I've proven Gordito to be a liar. No one has adequately responded to or even come close to debunking my explanations for why Tery was a likely target or why ScumGord had the tools at hand to make such a claim. Hell, Gordito doesn't even have to be scum for my claim to make sense from an outside perspective. No one is reading though. No one understands logic. This is ****ing pathetic.

Unvote: Gordito
Vote: FrozenFlame751

Might as well end my misery. This is a waste of my time.

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Unvote: Gordito
Vote: FrozenFlame751

I edited my previous post to fix a few typos so I'm revoting to make it official incase X1/Kuz demands edit reversals or some ****.

 

[X1-12]

D2 Final Votecount - Votecount 12 - [6/10]

Gordito [0]
Adumbrodeus [1] - Red Ryu
BeatStick [0]
Vult Redux [0]
frozenflame751 [6] - Gordito, Roxy, AM, Joey, Vult, Frozenflame
Sworddancer [0]
Roxy [1] - Adumbrodeus
Aggressive Mediation [0]
Joey [0]
Red Ryu [0]

Not Voting [2] - Beat, Sword


frozenflame751 has been lynched. It is now Twilight. Lynch scene will be posted around 2PM GMT today

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Didn't even realize that Vult put you at L-1.

 

[X1-12]

And for once the entrants of MaylayFest listened to the Walrused one. They prepared a noose from the wire of a Gamecube controller and looped their victims neck through it. Before they had finished questioning him however, frozenflame kicked away his own stool, accepting his demise.

frozenflame751 (Ally, Mafia Roleblocker/Rolestopper) Has been Lynched!

Night 2 Begins. Send all Night Actions to me by 4PM (GMT) on Friday the 27th

 

[X1-12]

DON'T TALK ABOUT THIS GAME OUTSIDE THE ******* GAME THREAD ​

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Speaking as a mod of the site X1-12.

Don't censor dodge.

I will infract next time I see it in DGames.

 

[X1-12]

Day 3 Begins!

Start of D3 Votecount - Votecount 13 - [5/9]

Gordito [0]
Adumbrodeus [0]
BeatStick [0]
Vult Redux [0]
Sworddancer [0]
Roxy [0]
Aggressive Mediation [0]
Joey [0]
Red Ryu [0]

Not Voting [9] Gordito, Adum, Beat, Vult, Sword, Roxy, AM, Joey, Red Ryu


Note: Theres an issue me and kuz still need to agree a punishment on, but since I can't catch him now I have no problem with starting the Day and punishing it later.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

K, really do need to reread now, was too busy with other things to do so sooner.

@AM: Did you get a message from RR? Do you still think Vult is scum after FF flip?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

@MOD: Your vote count isn't correct. It still has FF listed in it.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Just pretend its not there.

 

[Dooms]

I'm going to re-read FF's posts. I'll post what I think after I do so.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

It's Ryker, I'm here for all of 2 minutes. I got a note offering investigative services from a mysterious stranger. I still think Vult's scum, but I haven't dwelt on it at ****ing all, so let me get back to you on that after I've talked to WL. Seriously though, he was the setter for the FF quick hammer spike.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Vult's quickhammer giving opportunity was unsettling.

Roxy's vote was unsettling as well, but I wanna reread before doing anything serious.

Obtw, I'm V/LA till monday/tuesday, so ugh...

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Something's fishy. Why DID Vult vote for FF... Only after the piling of votes? Responding to posts about FF yesterDay, he seemed to be kinda general. Defending a possible scum read on FF, but not necessarily being definite about a scum read. Funny huh? Right when FF's put at L-2, he votes FF, calling it "/contributing". I BET HE BLAMES IT ON HIS V/LA. Even so, wasn't the 25th in the middle of his V/LA? Noting ALL of that, plus his laughable D1 play, Vult is our next scum pick folks. D1 is pre' good after all huh ?

Vote: Vult Redux

This is by far the best course of action toDay. I highly encourage every player that recieved a Lime role PM to follow me.

 

[Dooms]

Gord, I do not agree with the way you're doing things, but I do agree with the direction you're voting.

Vult suddenly saying that FF was scummy with repeated bad reasoning, his tunneling early game, and his vote after Four other people did, even though he was the second/third person to think he was scummy shows that he really deserves a vote.

Vote: Vult Redux

 

[Dooms]

Who is getting force-replaced? lol.

 

[Vult Redux]

I jumped on FF support because I'd figured Gord had night information on him, but I couldn't find a way to get in on the wagon naturally.

I was V/LA because I was booked completely between 8a till 11p on Tuesday and Wednesday -- I had time after midnight.

I'm leaving for Montreal in 4 hours and don't know if I'll have internet access there.

Claim: Scar, Vengeful Townie. My ability is a Twilight one, but I'm preemptively sending in a kill choice for AM if I'm lynched while I'm gone.

My scum read on him was reinforced by:
- his aggressive defense of FF at the start of D2 -- he was trying to silence any doubt cast on FF at its neck and shape it into something people should consider "scummy"
- his nonsense responses to simple inquiries which demonstrate his motive of trying to lynch me rather than read my arguments.
- FF's ridiculous defense of his claim D1, calling it "stupid and rash, but Town" even though he knows AM isn't dumb enough.

Go ahead and call me stupid or stubborn or tunneling (it was quite hip with FF, iirc). I probably won't change it, exempting a noteworthy investigation result.

 

[Dooms]

Unvote

For now -_-'

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

I jumped on FF support because I'd figured Gord had night information on him, but I couldn't find a way to get in on the wagon naturally.

I was V/LA because I was booked completely between 8a till 11p on Tuesday and Wednesday -- I had time after midnight.

I'm leaving for Montreal in 4 hours and don't know if I'll have internet access there.

Claim: Scar, Vengeful Townie. My ability is a Twilight one, but I'm preemptively sending in a kill choice for AM if I'm lynched while I'm gone.

My scum read on him was reinforced by:
- his aggressive defense of FF at the start of D2 -- he was trying to silence any doubt cast on FF at its neck and shape it into something people should consider "scummy"
- his nonsense responses to simple inquiries which demonstrate his motive of trying to lynch me rather than read my arguments.
- FF's ridiculous defense of his claim D1, calling it "stupid and rash, but Town" even though he knows AM isn't dumb enough.

Go ahead and call me stupid or stubborn or tunneling (it was quite hip with FF, iirc). I probably won't change it, exempting a noteworthy investigation result.

Buh-buh-buh-bull****. Vote Vult

I really like this set-up, homeboy. I like that claim, it takes balls.

In the case that I'm killed, Joey is town if Vult is scum. Adum, Roxy, and Sworddancer are the remaining possible scum in that order. If I'm wrong about Vult, then Joey goes behind Sworddancer on that list.

Let's dance, hombre. Also, for the record, at this rate, RR may never get to cop someone.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

Unvote

For now -_-'

Why? Your life isn't at stake. It looks like you're backing off to wait on public opinion. You have his claim, does it change your read? Why or why not? Take a stance.