I'd really rather not, but here's the short and sweet version:
AB believes that playing a good scum relies on hiding and misdirecting; this is the opposite of my usual approach, which is generally controlling and manipulative. AB would rather patiently wait until someone else shows weakness then pounce on them, while I would rather pick a lynch target and go for it. AB would rather judo anything on him onto his accuser or someone that he believes shares similar traits, while I'm more likely to convince someone to do my bidding for me and avoid that process all together. AB's playstyle allows him to live an indefinite amount of time while my playstyle basically guarantees I'm killed in the D3/N3 phase, but I'm able to do more damage in that time than Adumb can do for most of the game... except at the very end game, which is what Adumb plays for.
With me so far?
Here's Majora's Mask mafia, where Adumb was scum, btw:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=287342&page=4
You can read that too.
Here's the long version, starting and ending with his most recent quote:
Totally incorrect. The way I play scum (as I referenced at the end of this game) is trying my best to convince myself I'm town and then playing as close to that as I can.
MM actually illustrates it rather well, so does LOTR. Where in those games did I illustrate any of the tells you stated? Where did I deflect questions which you consider such a strong tell? Where did I attempt to avoid attention at all?
Notice how they nonchalantly give two lynch choices each? Why didn't they do that sooner?
Anyway, we'll get to this later. You should just read it and remember it.
They weren't lynch choices, they were scumtells.
Reguardless, gheb answered your question well before that point and before even objecting to it.
The first deflection, and the first clue that AB has a possibility of being scum.
Stop being dumb, I've stated my preference for RVS multiple times in theory threads.
More reads from Adumb, but again... no bite. No vote, no push, no questions. Nothing but deflections and adumb saying "go look over there" so far. No cases. And this is on two players who he's calling scum because they're avoiding attention. Hardly an effective strategy, imo.
I rarely make big cases, as you yourself referenced in time travelers.
Granted I was being more passive then I usually am, but more passive then I am regardless of alignment.
Now his scum reads are Raziek and Xatres instead of RR and Tery. That's cool, I guess. A little suspicious of Circus, which is understandable; Circus is a strong player who's been pretty quiet too. That's always a reason for suspicion; you should always try to get info from quiet town players like Frozen Flame who isn't going to read this post.
But not a scum read on Circus... just "troubled", but he seems to imply with the rest of his post that Circus is scum.
Obviously a gheb post. Gheb, take a look at gheb's reads later on and they match up rather obviously and furthermore his writing style is different.
Again, gheb. I won't pretend to know exactly why he pushed against it, but I have no issue with scumreads. "Who you'd lynch" is a different story because what it looked to me like you were trying to do was create a lynch pool whereas I wanted wagons to develop naturally. I also sensed you were attempting to use it to push a lynch on me.
He decides to revisit this for some reason... only to attempt to justify and deflect again.
Again, posts from different heads. I thought it deserved an explanation.
Scumbag AButtheads.
Claims to have limited access.
Has more posts than anyone but OS, most of them being him not answering questions.
Claimed to have limited access then, losing a power chord does that, but I had another head who posted, remember?
Finally some reads!
Different than his other reads though.
Previous scum reads up to this point:
Red Ryu, Tery, Raziek, Xatres, and Circus. Each referenced once.
Scum reads from this post:
FF, Boat, Xatres, Raziek. FF/Boat only here, Xatres/Raziek referenced prior.
OS...
FF was referenced in my first vote out of RVS including a post.
Boat was referenced
here and
here, not specifically as a scumread but I dropped my vote on him and he never justified any of this.
Let's see.... Let's think for a second...
If I were AButthead and I were scum, and Nich was on my wagon.... and my wagon was started by Overswarm...
What's the BEST way to turn Nich's tendencies against himself.... hmmm....
Oh, I get it!
-_-;;
The worst thing about this post is even though it's about as subtle as a woolly mammoth in a swimming pool Nich is jumpy enough to fall for it. The irony of being worried about being tricked being what causes you to get tricked is quite delicious though.
Ok, seriously, how is it scummy to get him to think for himself? We think you're epically misreading, so why not?
Aaaaaaand the last post is finished. Gheb's aggressiveness here rings the scum bells for him too.
Red Ryu, Tery, Raziek, Xatres, and Circus. Each referenced once.
Where was a scum read on circus?
We asked him a question that he never answered but I don't think we ever actually called him scum.
That thing he wouldn't do by the way? I'll get to that in a moment. We would have a confirmed townie, but nope.
How? Seriously.
OS your case is bad and shows a complete misunderstanding of scum theory in spite of games we've been in together.
The most damning thing is that you NEVER CONSTRAST IT TO MY TOWN PLAY IN ANY GAMES! You just say that I do certain things as scum without even supporting it within the game that you referenced, and without explaining why these weren't present in my town game.
This case is built on false meta with no real understanding of the players behind it, and it's exactly the kind of case I would expect out of you. You're annoyed cause I'm thumbing my nose at you but there's no real content behind it.
