MegaMafia | Day 4 - Mafia wins!

[#HBC | Mac]

ALSO WTF. THATs A HORRIBLY USELESS ROLE AND MAKES ME FEEL EVEN MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE LYNCH. AND IF YOU FLIP TOWN/INDY THAN XSY IS CLEAR OF SUSPICION. [WELL WHAT I WAS SUSPICIOUS OF HIM FOR] AND IF YOU FLIP MAF HE IS MORE SUSPICIOUS.

THIS LYNCH HAS TO HAPPEN. YOU'RE ALL SCUM IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME

 

[Omni]

Lmao @ Mac. He is somehow very persuasive.

@Iggy: So you're not informed on what this "bad" thing that happens if they stop following their post restriction? Macman, were you informed or are you allowed to disclose that information?

Um, you mean that Iggy[Warlord] placed the restriction? Cuz I =/= Warlord

Yes, that.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

OH MAH BADd

VOTE: IGGY
SORRY IGGY ITS NOT YOUR FAULT, BUT SOMETHING SO BLATANTLY ANTI TOWN IS UNACCEPTABLE.

 

[Ignatius]

Lmao @ Mac. He is somehow very persuasive.

@Iggy: So you're not informed on what this "bad" thing that happens if they stop following their post restriction? Macman, were you informed or are you allowed to disclose that information?

Yes, that.

No, I very much so am, but I left some details vague to at least keep a small chance that my power is still useful were I not lynched. If I'm to be the lynch toDay, before hammering, please let me post it in detail, so you know the consequences if Megaman uses it.

 

[Ignatius]

Forgot to mention, I'm going to sleep now, and have class in the morning.

 

[Wikipedia]

I can see possible exploits in Iggy's ability. Couldn't he make a posting restriction where you have to say unvote, vote: (anyone he wants) at the bottom of every post? That way no matter what that person votes he will have to unvote and then vote whoever Iggy wants. Also, Iggy could even go as far as to write up several dozen posts with whatever content he wants and force his target to copy and paste the contents as a posting restriction. Kind of like:

Ok, for your first post you have to say:
Hey guys, so I'm mafia, please lynch me.

Then your second post you have to say:
No, really, I am mafia.

etc.

I don't know, but Iggy's description of his ability seems a bit vague. He can force ANY posting restriction on anyone (including himself) save it causes inactivity.

 

[Ignatius]

He can force ANY posting restriction on anyone (including himself) save it causes inactivity.

Are all of you that terrible at reading?

However, there are some things I can't make it, such as anything that promotes inactivity, or limits posts.

 

[Rockin]

Are all of you that terrible at reading?

I'm not terrible! I just misunderstand things >=/

Anyway, what does people feel about this? I'm in favor for a lynch mainly cause the role doesn't sound like a Town-ish role. And Grenade man speaks for itself in terms of alignment (in case ya wonder what I mean, I mean a Indie role).

 

[Wikipedia]

Are all of you that terrible at reading?

Excuse you. I think I have a legitimate concern. The example I gave does not inherently cause inactivity. So did you just misunderstand me or are you just terrible at reading?

 

[Omni]

And Grenade man speaks for itself in terms of alignment (in case ya wonder what I mean, I mean a Indie role).

What do you mean it speaks for itself?

 

[Ignatius]

Are you serious Duke? You clearly stated that you believed I could force any posting restriction, don't try to play it off that you're still in the right when you failed to read correctly. That said, I'll list every restriction that was also suggested with the PM, there were good and bad examples given.

My concern is that you're not fulling comprehending things and still trying to make arguments. Having a valid point in a post isn't an excuse to for being ignorant.

Some of the thing that were given to me as restrictions not to place include; having to lie in every post, mandatory voting each post, no posting, no voting, and funnily enough having to say that they're mafia in every post is also listed.

 

[smashman90]

Man, I'm gonna have to catch up. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to post my thoughts and answer questions and stuff. I got a night class tonight and I maybe tired when I get back. And to add on top of that, there was a cat who lived near my house that died. I heard him crying out in pain and I checked out to see what the deal was. Me and my neighbor took him to the vet and it turned out that his legs were broken and he wouldn't be able to walk again. So we had him put to sleep so that he wouldn't be in pain anymore. Needless to say, I'm pretty heartbroken about the cat's death but at least he isn't in pain anymore. I'm gonna try my best to post later tonight, if I don't then expect a post from me tomorrow afternoon/evening.

 

[Chaco]

Alright, take your time Smash. Thanks for telling us.

I believe Iggy's claim because Grenade Man's ability is concussion grenade. Which yeah, speaks for itself. Post restrictions, and junk like that would fit perfectly. But still, I'd like a post from Xsy,(Marshy). Or whoever the hell's replacing.

 

[Rockin]

What do you mean it speaks for itself?

Just that. I already explain the deal with Grenade Man before, but I'll speak it again. He's a robot master that doesn't know from friend or foe (or hell, his own alignment). Him being in a group of other Robot Masters that wants to take down Mega man is dangerous for them, and is possibly considered a threat to them. There is also the fact that his role doesn't sound pro-town at all nor has any benefit to town (except possibily screw up anti-town).

Man, I'm gonna have to catch up. I'm not sure if I'm gonna be able to post my thoughts and answer questions and stuff. I got a night class tonight and I maybe tired when I get back. And to add on top of that, there was a cat who lived near my house that died. I heard him crying out in pain and I checked out to see what the deal was. Me and my neighbor took him to the vet and it turned out that his legs were broken and he wouldn't be able to walk again. So we had him put to sleep so that he wouldn't be in pain anymore. Needless to say, I'm pretty heartbroken about the cat's death but at least he isn't in pain anymore. I'm gonna try my best to post later tonight, if I don't then expect a post from me tomorrow afternoon/evening.

I'm very sorry to hear Smashman =/

Do your best to catch up, post up your reasons and what not, put a vote on someone, then go and rest for as long as needed. I have a cat. I understand...

 

[Chaco]

So basically your saying he's a potential threat to town. So, what should we do about it, Rockin?

 

[Rockin]

So basically your saying he's a potential threat to town. So, what should we do about it, Rockin?

IMO, we should lynch. He makes a good lynch pick. As Evil Eye said, we may get some good answers if we lynch him. Plus, as said many times by me, he just doesn't seem town.

 

[Chaco]

Well, as far as that goes. I'm agree to lynch him if we have no other choice by deadline. I agree that Grenade man can harm us as well, and he has to use it. The only alternative I can think of is making him use it on himself. But he can't even do that more than once. But eh.

 

[Ignatius]

IMO, we should lynch. He makes a good lynch pick. As Evil Eye said, we may get some good answers if we lynch him.

Here's my question though, when I do flip town, do you think the lynch will have yielded anything beneficial at all to town? Do you think that people would be able to say, "Well, I think Rockin' was pushing too hard for the lynch?" Because honestly, at the moment, I don't see this lynch generating any new information for town. The way that Warlord was playing was such terrible play, that nobody will be able to fault anyone for the lynch.

 

[Chaco]

Here's my question though, when I do flip town, do you think the lynch will have yielded anything beneficial at all to town? Do you think that people would be able to say, "Well, I think Rockin' was pushing too hard for the lynch?" Because honestly, at the moment, I don't see this lynch generating any new information for town. The way that Warlord was playing was such terrible play, that nobody will be able to fault anyone for the lynch.

I'm gonna pop my input into here. I do think that your abilities our a hindrance to us. However, you said you got voteblocked? I think that's not one that should be tossed around either. If possible, refrain from using it unless your for certain on who you wanna voteblock. (Don't respond) Anyways, at this moment, I don't wanna lynch you unless necessary. I'd honestly feel comfortable with an EE lynch, he just doesn't sit right with me. I'll go PbPA him in a while.

(I wish we had a post iso feature...)

 

[Omni]

I'm gonna pop my input into here. I do think that your abilities our a hindrance to us. However, you said you got voteblocked? I think that's not one that should be tossed around either. If possible, refrain from using it unless your for certain on who you wanna voteblock. (Don't respond) Anyways, at this moment, I don't wanna lynch you unless necessary. I'd honestly feel comfortable with an EE lynch, he just doesn't sit right with me. I'll go PbPA him in a while.

(I wish we had a post iso feature...)

Sounds like you're comfortable with any lynch. Based on what I've heard you say about both Iggy and EE it would be best if you were more confident and at least have a solid basis stated besides "He doesn't sit right with me," and "If the deadline is approaching."

@Iggy: Think long and hard () about this: Besides yourself, who do you think is the play? Your answer will probably determine if I end up voting you or not.

 

[Chaco]

Sounds like you're comfortable with any lynch. Based on what I've heard you say about both Iggy and EE it would be best if you were more confident and at least have a solid basis stated besides "He doesn't sit right with me," and "If the deadline is approaching."

I believe I said I would do a Post by Post Analysis, did I not? I believe you quoted it as well. There's nothing wrong with pressure, but when you undermine it, I see that as a minor tell.

Anyways, I'll get back to my PbPA on EE now that I'm done with my schoolwork. I should have it up before 11.

 

[Chaco]

Sorry--but I'm Quoting All Of His Posts Up Here To Make It Easier To Respond To! :d

uh, Quick Hits.

Nl This Early? Wiki, I'm Going To Give You The Benefit Of The Doubt And Assume You Were Playing A Ton Of Epicmafia (nl D1 Is A Pseudo-guarantee In That Game) In Your Absence From Swf. If That Is Not The Case, Explain Yourself.

@mentos: I Agree It's Fruitless To Talk Posting Restrictions Right Now, As That Hovers Dangerously Close To "hey Let's Point Out Something And Draw Attention To A Likely Townie". However Because Of The Latter Two Words I Used There ("likely Townie"), Fake Posting Restrictions Aren't A Bad Idea For A Ballsy Mafiat. Also, Food For Thought: In The Broom We Had An Indy Survivor In Tmnt Mafia Who Had A Posting Restriction. So Let's Not Go Scratching Mac Off The List Yet. With That Said, Discussing Posting Restrictions Right Now Is Fruitless And Dumb. It Comes Up Every Time Someone Appears To Have One And Really Is An Avenue That We Won't Get Anything Out Of. Either He Slips Up And We Catch Him (and As Proven By Marshy A Few Times, Even Townies Try To Fake Posting Restrictions), Or He Doesn't And It's... Legit. Either Way, What Have We Learned By Discussing It? Nada. File It Away, Take Note Of It, But Don't Hijack The Thread To Talk About It Because It's Just Wasting Valuable Time.

Macman May Make Typos Quite A Bit, Chaco, But They Are Nothing To The Degree He's Shown Here. This Is Almost Comical. In One Sentence He Spells Terrible Correctly And In The Corresponding One He Butchers And Sodomizes It On The Side Of The Road. Omni Was, I Feel, Clearly Asking Whether He Mistypes like That, And He Doesn't. You've Misled Him. I Don't Like That.


Right Now I'd Like To Talk About Wiki's Proposed Nl. Thoughts? At Present I'm Going With "out Of The Loop". Other, More Sinister Possibilities May Exist, But At Any Rate, Proposing An Nl On The Literal First Day Of The First Day Is. Y'know. Stupid. It's A Bad Idea To Suggest It For Any Allignment, Though, So We Can't Let That Cloud Our Judgment. What's The Source Of A Statement Like That?

**** All You Ninjas.


Xsy: I've Put Forth A Juicier Thing To Discuss, I Think. And Yes, I Think Anyone That Is Literate Noticed The Use Of The Word "investigator", Not Cop, So Yes, I Think We're All Crossing Our Fingers For Another Cop/investigator. But Um, Why Did You Go And Point That Out? In Your Own Words, Best Not To Fish Them Out. We've Got Like A Fifty Percent Newbie Cast Here, Which Means Good Odds For At Least One Or Two Newbies On The Mafia Roster, Which Means The Possibility Of That Being Overlooked Was Significant. Which Means, Uh, Don't Talk About Stuff Like That! How Many Times Have I Had This Rant In Swfmafia? Don't Speculate About What We Might Have Left! At Least, Not Unless You've Got A Plan Of Action That Is Based Around Appealing To Them.

That Goes To You Too, Chaco!



@hando: I Like The Cut Of Your Jib. But I'm Actually Trying To Look At Why Wiki Would Suggest Such A Thing. Joke? Maybe. I Have My Doubts, But It is The Rvs, After All.

well, We've Certainly Got Lower Hanging Fruit Than Wiki's Premature Ejaculation Of The Nl Sperm, Now.


I'm Distressed By Masterwarlord's Post For A Very Obvious Reason -- He Tries To Incriminate Macman Within His Post. And He Does This By Saying He Finds It Hard To Believe That Two People Would Have The Same Posting Restriction? Well, So Do I. So Does Anybody That's Reasonable And Logical.

Do You Realize What You've Done There? You've Basically Leaned On Mac's Lynch Through Faking A Posting Restriction When You don't Even Have A Posting Restriction, Much Less The One You Presume To Be Macman's. I Certainly Hope I'm Not The Only Person That Is... Deeply, Deeply Bothered By This.

That Whole "i Don't Give Two Frigs If You Lynch Me" Or "go Ahead And Lynch Me, I Don't Care, Just Make Sure You Look At ____" Card Has Been Played Before. Y'know.. By Mafia. It's The Ultimate Cover, Or So Many Would Think -- Look Like You Don't Care About Being Lynched And You're Sooooo Town Mirite Eh Eh Eh?


unvote Because I really Don't Like What Masterwarlord Has Just Said And Done. Not Voting Because It's Stupidly Early To Do So.


@everyone: Please Weigh In On This Most Current Event.

right, There Are No Jesters In This Game. Which Is Why Macman's Behavior Is Baffling -- To Say The Least -- And Why I Expect A Better Explanation From Omni Than Laying Off Of Warlock Because He "seems To Crave A Lynch". If You Truly Believe He Craves A Lynch In A Game Where The Gm Confirmed There Is No Role That Would Do Require As Much To Win, You're Making A Pretty Heady Accusation, Especially When Warlock's Attitude In The Face Of "hand In The Cookie Jar" Has So Closely Mirrored Many A Mafioso.

i'm Still Having Difficulty Thinking Of A Townie Reason To Fake A Posting Restriction That Is The Same Or Similar To How You Perceive Someone Else's Supposed Posting Restriction And Using That As The Fulcrum Of A Post Where You Point The Ol' Fos At Them. I Don't Know What To Make Of It, But It Stinks Right To Hell. Lyncher And Lyncher Target Comes To Mind. And There Are, Of Course, More Sinister Ways To Read The Situation.

And Yes, I'd Like To Hear More From Macman, Who Seems To Be Playing The Game Like A 4channer.

um, I'm Aware Of That. But I've Already Directed My Suspicions At Warlord And Said That His Posts Stink To Hell For Me. I Would Think That That Also Moves Discussion Along.

I'm A Guy That Makes Votes After A Mostly Sound Deducement Is Formed. Pressure Voting Doesn't Do It For Me. If Warlord Doesn't Answer My Concerns Adequately, I'll Consider It Scummy.

don't Misunderstand Me -- I Wasn't Ignoring That Part Of Your Explanation. The Thing Is That His Appeal To Emotion Is Not A Reason To Let Him Off The Hook, At All. When I Said The Thing About His "hand In The Cookie Jar Attitude", The One That Mafiats Often Deploy, The Atoe Is Lumped Into That.

@warlock: Quit With The Passive Aggressive Nonsense. My Second Game Of Mafia, I Led A D2 Lynch Against A Townie Full Of Blind Conviction. I Could Have Thrown My Hands Up In The Air, But I Didn't, And Detected One Of The Baddies And Helped Arrange His Lynch. I'm Tired Of This Because It's Meta-nonsense. You Playing The Emotional Card Has No Logical Grounding In This Game's Mechanics By Which To Judge Your Behavior. You're Just Being Deflective And Evasive.



1) Macman Is Somewhat Of A Veteran In Mafia Here. You Yourself Said His Being An Idiot Is Unlikely, And The Rest Of Us Would Quite Plainly Agree. So "acting Like An Idiot" Is A Pretty Poor Way For Someone Known To Be Intelligent To Hide A Posting Restriction That Kind Of Makes Them Look Like An Idiot.

2) Despite This Knowledge You Chose To fake Macman's Posting Restriction, And Made The Argument That You Don't See Two People Having The Same One. Why In The hell Would You Do That? You're Avoiding This Line Of Questioning Entirely! You Perform The Equivalent Of A Counterclaim By Faking The Same Posting Restriction You Feel Someone Else Has, And There Is Only One Outcome From Such A Situation In 99% Of Cases -- One Of Them Gets Lynched. If You're A Townie, Why The Hell Did You Do That? Explain Yourself. No Emotional Appeals. By Saying That You "doubt Two People Would Have The Same Posting Restriction", You Have Clearly Acknowledged That You Knew fully Well What You Were Setting Into Motion By Doing That, So "i'm An Idiot Lolol" Is Not Going To Cut It. Period.



Yeah, I Tend To Defend People When Someone Else Attempts To Fake Their Posting Restriction, Effectively Creating A Foundation For Their Lynch, And Then Gets Caught In Faking It And Plays The "well I'm Super Town So Go Ahead And Lynch Me" Card. I'm Weird Like That.

As Aforementioned, I Was Like... The Fifth Person, I Think, To Mention How Talking About His Posting Restriction Would Be Useless. And My Argument Was Based Solely On The Fact That There Really Wasn't Any Information We Could Decipher By Discussing It, It Had Nothing To Do With Defending Macman. I Assume You're Just Turning The Light Back On Me Because I'm Calling You Out On Your Bs And Expecting Actual Answers For It. We Gots A Name For That, Pally -- Omgus.

I'm Inches From Voting. But There Are Other People In This Game, After All. I'll Wait For Your Explanation -- A real Explanation -- Before Pouncing On You.



To Be Honest, It Was Obvious To Me After Two Posts. I Don't Think This Paints Xsyven In Any Particular Light, I Think He Just Noticed It And Thought (incorrectly) That It Would Be A Viable Avenue Of Discussion. And Yes, I Do Have My Doubts That A Mafia Would Be The First (or Even One Of The First) To Bring Up The Conditions Of A Posting Restriction They Had Created.

Though, Remember, There Was A Mad Scientist That Imposed A Posting Restriction In Spidey That Was Town-alligned. There Isn't Too Much To Gain From What Little Info We Have Right Now, Mac, But Now That You've Come Out Of The Closet So To Speak, I Hope You'll Be Offering Up Some Posts With Substance Soon.




Common Sense, But Yeah. Don't Do That, Guys.




This From Rockin, I Don't Like. I'm Not Pushing Warlord's Lynch, But Saying You Find Nothing Truly Suspicious Is... Well, Naive, I Guess. What Warlord Did, And What He Knew Quite Well He Was Doing Based On The Wording Of His Post, Was Incredibly Suspicious And Detrimental To Town. Your Reaction To His "giving Up" Is One I've Seen Far Too Many Mafiats Try To Appeal To By The Same Behavioral Track As Warlord Is Presently Employing.

As For Your Two Suspects:

Xsy: Well, I've Already Elaborated On My Thoughts On His Suggesting We Talk About The Posting Restriction In Response To Macman's Positing. However, If You're Suggesting That Xsy Was Deliberately Putting Town Discussion On A Dead-end Road, That's Something Else. Obviously I Agree That Talking Posting Restriction At This Stage Is A Waste Of Time, But You'll Have To Go A Bit Farther To Convince Me That He Was Bringing It Up With Malicious Intent. Xsyven Has Often Made Controversial Suggestions That Seemed Antitown At The Time But Were Made With Pro-town Intentions, So I Remain Unconvinced.


Smashman: I Certainly Don't Like That He's Not Posting, And I Like It Even Less That He Was Apparently Reading The Thread. I've Never Seen Smashy On D1, Does He Typically Lurk This Much? At Present I'm Assuming He's Just Inactive, Since He Hasn't Posted At All.

@smashman: Start Postin', Bub.




However, If You're Going To Follow The Inactivity Trail, I Think There Are Lower-hanging Fruit.


@hando: You Made, I Believe, One Or Two Decent Posts And Then Pissed Off. I'll Go Ahead And Just Assume You Were Working, As You Often Are, If You Do Us All A Favor And Start Engaging Discussion Again.

@wiki: By Your Own Admission You Cracked A Quick Joke And Then Disappeared Into The Shadows. You Came Back With A Single, Oneline Post To Reaffirm "yeah, I Was Kiddin' " And Did Not Participate In Any Of The Present Lines Of Discussion. What's The Deal, Man? I Don't Like Fluff Posts, And That's All You've Made Up To Now, Despite The Fluff Stage Of D1 Being Quite Over. Start Talking, Because It Feels Like You're Either Not Investing In The Game, Not Reading, Or Deliberately Avoiding The Issues.

that's An Interesting Catch, I Didn't Notice That Before. It Does Come Off As Quite Quaint That He Seemed To Pin Down The Posting Restriction (macman Has Confirmed That It Is Posting In Allcaps, Yes?) With Such Certainty.

A Little Food For Thought: Macman Rode Xsyven Pretty Hard In Spidey, Including Roleblocking Him For Two Nights. Likely Irrelevant, But An Interesting Connection Nonetheless.



Most Of This Will Be Addressed Below. But Yes, Riding On Pretty Much Everything Is How I Do Things. I Really Don't Like That Xsy Was Speculating About What Town Abilities We Might Have Left, But Bear In Mind That I Was Considering That Separately From The Posting Restriction Thing. I Consider Speculating About Town Roles To Be Pretty Scummy, But The Posting Restriction Discussion Could Have Just Been Good Ol' Erroneous Behavior. I Don't Like It Any More Than Other Unproductive Things, But I Don't (or Didn't) Attribute Anything Sinister To It. At The Time.

And I'd Like To Point Out That My "doubting Actions" From People Such As Yourself Or Chaco Has Little In Common With My Discussion Of Xsyven. In Those Cases, I Was Prodding For An Explanation, And Felt That I Received A Satisfactory One. In The Case Of Xsy, I'm Addressing Someone Else's Points And Analyzing Them, Not Bringing Forth My Own.



First Of All, Defence Is A Vast Exaggeration. Points About Xsyven Were Brought Up, And I Applied My Own Read Of Them To It. You're Basically Accusing Me Of Being Inconsistent For Not Finding Every Action By Every Member Of This Town To Be Scummy, Or Something, And That Is Faulty Logic. I Called Xsyven Out On Pushing The Posting Restriction Discussion, And I Didn't Question Him About It Because What Productive Answers Could I Possibly Expect? "well I Was Just Trying To Get Discussion Going" Is A Favorite Of Xsyven's, And It Works -- Unfortunately -- For Either Of The Major Allignments. The Same Goes For Pressing Him About Speculating Town Roles, Something I Myself Was Guilty Of Once As A Townie.

Don't Think I'm Not Looking Critically At Xsyven. I Just Haven't Seen A Productive Way To Lean On Him, And The Closest I Came To "defending" Him Was Mentioning That As A Townie He Has A Precedent Of That Type Of Behavior. I Mentioned That Because I'm The Only Other Person That Has Played Broomafia, And Thus, The Only Person That Has Seen Xsyven As A Townie (he Was Mafia And Indy In His Two Dg Mafias). It Seemed Like Relevant Information To Bring Forward. Satisfied?

Now, I've Been Nailing Warlord Because His Bizarre Post Was 100% Antitown Behavior. He Has Repeatedly Dodged The Line Of Questioning Asking What He Hoped To Achieve By Doing That, Typically With Appeals To Emotion (which Still Riddle His Posts). Even Now, His Explanations Are Logically Unsound And Unsatisfactory. He Was Hoping To Look Town By Being A Victim? If That Relates To The Faked Posting Restriction, How? If That Relates To His Behavior Since, I Consider A Rational Argument A Whole Lot More Town Than Firing Off A Pity Party, And More Importantly, Continues To Dodge The Issue Of What He Hoped To Gain With His Initial "plan". As Someone Else Said, If Warlord And Macman Are Town, Warlord Gave The Mafia Grounds For Not One, But Two Mislynches. His Behavior Has Been Several Shades More Sinister Than "bizarre".

Time For A Reread.

as Much As I Can't Stand The Reeking Scumminess Of What Warlord Has Done Up To Now, Macman, I'm Really Disturbed By Your Push For Expedience. Last Time I Checked, We Have Over A Week Left To Discuss Things, And You're Pressuring Lynch Finalization Already? And One Of The Two People You Pushed Has Only Your Vote On Him And Town Is Still Waiting On That Person For Some Substance.

And On That Note:


@xsy: What's Up Buddy. What's The Hold-up?

this Has Been The Case For Me With Mafia, Lately. Life Happens, And It's Hard To Be Persistently As Active As I'd Like To Be.

With That Said, I'll Address Your Question In My Upcomin' Big Post. I've Been Waiting For A Chance To Do A Full Reread Of The Thread, And I Am Finally Sitting Here On A Day Without Plans, So I Can Get Started.

also, On The Early Deadline, I Think That's A Good Idea. I'm Kicking Myself For Not Saying That Sooner, But I Wasn't Expecting This Week To Be Nearly As Busy As It Was, So I Thought It Could Wait Until My Big Post. If People Are Active We Can Figure Out What The Best Move Is Going Forward Today/tonight With Ease.

um. Because We Wanted To Reach An Agreement On It... And Rockin's Proposed Deadline Is Today? Durp?

Still Reading, But That's An Easy Enough Question To Answer.

ughghghghghhgh So Much For The Day With No Plans Lmfao. My How The Coin Can Flip.

I'll Get Up Early Tomorrow Hopefully And Hopefully Have A Sexy Post For Ya In The Morning (yay Microsoft Word).

um, Not At All. The Whole Point Of Figuring Out Who Our Collective Top Suspects Were Was To Allow Them Time To Form Proper Defences And Let Us Go From There On The Off Chance We Get Eye-opening New Information.


Xsy And Warlord Kind Of Really Screwed Up What Could Have Been A Very Productive D1 By Leaping Right Out Of The Pan When It Was Getting Hot, But All Is Not Lost. We Can't Expect Their Replacements To Explain Their Rationale, But We Can't Give Them Clean Slates, Either. In Swfmafia, One Of Our Broom Games, One Scum Almost Slipped By Via The Mere Virtue Of Being Replaced, No Lies, Three Times In Rapid Succession. We Cut Too Much Slack For Past Actions. However, I Eventually Reread The Entire Game (which Almost Drained My Will To Live Btw) And Saw That All Four Pieces Fit Together In A Scummy Fashion, So To Speak.

As I Said For Marshy I'll Now Say For Iggy -- Hopefully He Can Provide A Unique Insight Into These Actions Through Knowing More About The Role.


With All That Said, I Do Think It Reflects Poorly On Warlord That He Ditched Essentially Right As It Became Clear That His Appeals To Emotion Weren't Working And That The Noose Was Tightening. And, More Importantly, The Paper Trail Of Discussion About Him Is Still Codified Into This Game, The Opinions Expressed Still Valid.

And Even More Importantly, A Lot Of Things We Can Learn From Masteriggywarlord's Lynch Relate To The Flip And The Paper Trail, Independently Of The Replacement. As Such, I'm Fine With My Vote Where It Is. But With That Said, An Extension Is Definitely Well-deserved On Our End (two Replacements Who Were In The Chair On D1!?) And Beneficial. We Have Plenty Of Time Left, So Let's Make Of Use It.

That Goes Double For You, Iggy And ... Whoever Replaces Warlord!

 

[Chaco]

****, ****, ****! I just lost around 20 minutes of typing and I was near the last post! I'll do this tomorrow. =___=;

 

[Omni]

No, you said you'll do a PbPA assuming I know wtf that is.

 

[Rockin]

****, ****, ****! I just lost around 20 minutes of typing and I was near the last post! I'll do this tomorrow. =___=;

Chaco, if you want, you could just try again. You have the quotes needed and such, so all you need is to just type it up again. However, if you want to wait till tomorrow, then alright then

 

[Chaco]

I have to finish my pre-cal homework, or I would. I'll have it up after school tomorrow. Check around 5:30ish EST.

 

[Rockin]

Chaco, if you want, you could just try again. You have the quotes needed and such, so all you need is to just type it up again. However, if you want to wait till tomorrow, then alright then

I'm only stating this cause I want you to say your reasons so we can decide as a group who to lynch or if we're going for a No Lynch. We only have till this Saturday to figure out.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

LyNCH IGGY.

 

[Wikipedia]

Are you serious Duke? You clearly stated that you believed I could force any posting restriction, don't try to play it off that you're still in the right when you failed to read correctly. That said, I'll list every restriction that was also suggested with the PM, there were good and bad examples given.

My concern is that you're not fulling comprehending things and still trying to make arguments. Having a valid point in a post isn't an excuse to for being ignorant.

Some of the thing that were given to me as restrictions not to place include; having to lie in every post, mandatory voting each post, no posting, no voting, and funnily enough having to say that they're mafia in every post is also listed.

I clearly stated that I believed you could force any posting restriction save it cause inactivity. I'm only getting this from you unless you have your information incorrect (which in fact you did have incorrect since you later listed about 5 posting restrictions that you could not enforce).

He can force ANY posting restriction on anyone (including himself) save it causes inactivity.

Maybe if I highlight it in bright red you will notice the glaring qualifier in that sentence.

Don't be a troll, I clearly understood what you posted and offered legitimate concerns. Obviously they could have been legitimate and concerning loopholes since Scav had to come up with a list of do-nots which you left out in your original description of your ability.

 

[Chaco]

Alright~ So to make my life, and yours so much easier than reading a pyramid of quotes. I'll be using post numbers. Located on the top right of the post bit (Vertical PB), if it's left, iunno. Alright, so after reading through EE's stuff again. I noticed something I took a slight interest too. I wouldn't have thought much of it. If it had only occurred like once or twice. Well, I believe my initial count was 4? I'll point them out as I do the PbPA, but anyways. But basically, when he posed a question to Wikipedia. He answered it for him. Such as presuming EM, and whatnot. Well, Wiki just agrees with him. Anyways, I just thought that was interesting. Now ono the PbPA.

EE's #95: Just while it's fresh on my mind. I'd like to point out he does it twice in his 95. Assuming EM, and then out of the loop. Wiki just agreed. I also don't like how he says I'm misleading Omni by saying he typos quite a bit. When he really does. (No offense Mac) He kind of makes it what it's not. It's not that huge deal at all, but I want to point out all aspect of the post.

I agree with what he says to Mentos at that point. We've potentially got that figured out at this point.

EE's #98: His accusations towards those about the possibility of another investigator is rather weak. Pointing it out is not putting them in any form of danger. It's like me speculating that there is a Tree Stump in this game. It's harmless, and it's not role fishing unless someone really reacts to the text. Which I believe wouldn't happen, and I would hope not. (Save my idiocy in BIM) Anyways, time to point out another Wiki! He wonders why Wiki does something, and then just automatically excuses it as the RVS.

EE's #116: Alright, so to start of. Sperm reference to NL= Lol. Serious time though, so I don't like how he brings up Mac's post restriction more after a little while before he said to put it away for a while. I don't think less than 4 hours cuts that. Just struck me as odd.

EE's #127: Not much to say here, really.

EE's #143: More Wiki stuff, lol. I'm going to specifically talk about this here. He says that he isn't posting or talking about the issues, and just responded to him as "Yeah, i was kiddin." Well, that could be because you're doing his talking for him. Your questions directed at him, are just not even worth responding to since you answer them for him. I don't see you doing that with anyone else, which is why it strikes me as pretty odd.

Also, more talk of post restriction. Like you say not to talk about it, I know you were kind of provoked here. But I don't like how you go against what you've already said. Anyways, yeah. I just don't like it. Not a lot to that argument, but just your style rubs me in a wrong way.

Also at this point, I'm feeling him kind of favor Xsyven as well. Like he kind of defends him, but points fingers at him, but at the same time it's more defense.

EE's #176: After reading through this. I kinda notice, I'm a favorite to his little add-ins. "That goes for you too Chaco!" "people such as yourself or Chaco". But anyways, I'm gonna have to agree to what he quoted from Omni.

This is EE defending Xsyven's "possible" mistake. As we have all seen, EE has been very quick to take the lead and start pointing small fingers, speculating, and requesting solid explanations to even small mishaps (Chaco misinterpreting my post, my "lack" of explanation, etc.). Call it being out of character, but I call it EE not being consistent with his method of questioning. At this point, EE hasn't even questioned Xsyven, but rather has been carefully nailing Warlord for his bizarre post.

I agree with most of this, and the general response EE gave doesn't fully cut it for me. He have rather extraneous information that didn't apply. Like he's excusing Xsyven from his past BRoom games. I don't feel that to be a good excuse really. More or less his response to Omni was, Xsyven is always like this-- But let's talk about Warlord more.

EE's #196: As I said before, pressuring isn't scummy to me, but undermining it is. He does just that here.

EE's #288: I don't like how he blames others for an unproductive D1, when he himself was absent due to things. I don't mean any disrespect. But if you're going to point about that as well, go point at a mirror.

This is my rundown though. General Points:

1. Quick to lead
2. Answering for Wiki
3. Defends Xsyven, but points at him to counteract it?
4. Going against his previous posts
5. And his style really makes me uneasy.

So for now, I'm really going to have to go with my instinct on him. Vote: Evil Eye

Thank god I didn't use but one quote!

 

[Evil Eye]

Well, I was hoping this would be up in time for me to respond to it, but you took quite a while. I had no plans last night, but today I do. Rest assured, my reply would have been quite swift if you hadn't tantalized this for so long before actually going through with it. I'm saying this because you seem like the type to use "hah look how long he took to put up a counterargument" as evidence.

Until later, then.

 

[Wikipedia]

LOL at the connection between EE and I. If you are trying to draw some mafia connection between me and him then you fail since I am his 3rd option for a lynch.

 

[Chaco]

Well, I was hoping this would be up in time for me to respond to it, but you took quite a while. I had no plans last night, but today I do. Rest assured, my reply would have been quite swift if you hadn't tantalized this for so long before actually going through with it. I'm saying this because you seem like the type to use "hah look how long he took to put up a counterargument" as evidence.

Until later, then.

Sorry, school comes first. But no, I would not. I don't like the assumption really either.

LOL at the connection between EE and I. If you are trying to draw some mafia connection between me and him then you fail since I am his 3rd option for a lynch.

And that means? That reason is crap to be honest. It could be very easily played out.

 

[Wikipedia]

Yeah that's true. I just think it's funny since I feel like I'm under so much fire from EE and then you hypothesize that he is in fact covering for me. I just find the different perspective interesting.

 

[smashman90]

Sorry for the delay, guys.

I guess I will start it off with Iggy's Grenade Man claim. I don't completely believe it. There is a chance that he is telling the truth, but I don't think it's very high. We have two robot masters from Megaman 8 in this game? I'm sorry, but I kinda find it hard to believe, don't you? Also, I kinda would've expected grenade man and the bombing bots to be well...a bomb or maybe a vig or maybe even a roleblocker (I kinda got the idea from Green Goblin from Spideymafia). The post restriction thing just kinda seems weird to me.

I was gonna mention something else about Grenade Man and the other robot masters who use bombs, but whenever I try to type it out, I can't seem to make my point clear and I don't think you guys would understand what I'm trying to say. <.<

 

[Chaco]

Well, imho, it fits. Since what his bomb is, is a concussion grenade. Concussion could be shown as not talking clearly, and things such as that.

 

[smashman90]

ARGH! I just realized something! Each Mega Man boss has a weakness to a certain weapon. Search Man's weakness was the flame sword, or in other words a fire attack. So with that info, we now know that one of us is a fire character, which also means that there is most likely a water character to beat the flame character. This game is built exactly like a mega man game! Why didn't I realize this sooner?

I'm guessing that it's something like this:

Search Man (You gain a tracking missile in the game, so one of the characters in this game must have a weakness to that weapon)

Flame-related character (Search Man's weak to the flame sword, so we know that there has to be a fire character and most likely has a weakness towards water)

Water-related character (Fire character's weakness probably and probably has a weakness to electricity)

Electricity-related character (Water character's weakness)

Bomb-related character (A character who uses bombs like Grenade Man, Napalm Man, etc. I listed the bomb dude here from assuming that Iggy really is Grenade Man)

Person weak against Search Man's weapon

I know that it's incomplete, but I just wanted to do a quick little example (I think I needed to list one or two more people, then there's megamafia plus indy).

 

[Rockin]

While the game may be built in the usual Mega Man way, I don't think it's built the same way you're picturing it, Smashman. Also, I want to try and leave Robot Master's name to a minimum so as to avoid the Mafia possibly taking a fake claim. I want to say a bit more, but again, I don't want to run the risk of giving Mafia's any ideas

and while we're still near the deadline. Unvote Vote: Iggy

 

[smashman90]

While the game may be built in the usual Mega Man way, I don't think it's built the same way you're picturing it, Smashman. Also, I want to try and leave Robot Master's name to a minimum so as to avoid the Mafia possibly taking a fake claim. I want to say a bit more, but again, I don't want to run the risk of giving Mafia's any ideas

and while we're still near the deadline. Unvote Vote: Iggy

Maybe not the exact same type of villains and weaknesses that I made in that list, but the game is built just like a mega man game. There are 8 robot masters (not counting bosses like the Yellow Devil, I'm talking like Search Man, Grenade Man, etc), each one of them has a weakness to another, so in other words each of us has a weakness to the other. I'm almost dead certain on this.

 

[Chaco]

I don't see how you're relating this, and I don't feel you share the same role PM as us.

Vote: Smashman