MegaMafia | Day 4 - Mafia wins!

[Scav]

Marshy didn't respond to my PM. So, he isn't the replacement. He's still next should another open up.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

I WONDER WHAT HANDO's BEEN UP TO

 

[Chaco]

So who's replacing Xsy then?

And not posting here, Mac lol.

 

[Handorin]

I'm actually glad you brought this up. I was about to bash you for calling me out on such a stupid concept, but it brings up an interesting idea actually.

So far I thought it was obvious that the set-up is 3 Megaman's, hence, they kill one of us at night and all 3 get our power. Scav said a few times in his first post, "Stop Megaman," in which I took as singular but I misread this:



I never thought of the possibility that it could be a GF/Goon/Goon setup and only one person gets the power.

So now I'm wondering is there 3 Megaman's or is there 1 Megaman and 2... not Megamen? If there is only one Megaman and we kill him, does that end the game? I wonder if Scav is allowed to answer this for us.

I would guess that there is only one Megaman (GF type) with 2 Non-Megamen (Goons) because of Macman's restriction. I wouldn't think that Megaman himself would be able to cast such an odd restriction given Megaman's character doesn't imply any kind of power whatsoever.

To answer your question, Smashman, I also did not know.

The way I understood the OP was that Megaman would get the power and "by extension, the rest of the mafia" meant that the rest of the mafia would benefit from the powers and help decide what to use.

I WONDER WHAT HANDO's BEEN UP TO

Hello. I made a post yesterday. Also, I've been working a lot. I did 52 hours last week.

Also, the last post I made where I kinda voiced my suspicions I kinda left out warlord even though I discussed him as an option in the same post.

So to put my mouth where my text is:
Vote: Warlord/Iggy

 

[Chaco]

So, it's a pretty much decided Warlord lynch? He's at L-2 now.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

That's pretty much what I got out of your "Long post" and a lot of other posts. Anything else to add?

NO NOT REALLY

Vote: Warlord/Iggy

EH, I DON't THINK ANYONE ELSE SHOULD VOTE. IGGY SHOULD GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK UP. AND I DON'T WANT XSY/HIS REPLACEMENT TO FEEL LIKE HES OFF THE HOOK.

 

[mentosman8]

Ok, so I'm going to Unvote, I don't want to risk having Iggy at L-2 before he's even gotten a shot to respond. Of course, now that he's replaced we aren't going to be able to get any of the thought process behind the ridiculous move by Warlord:/ Also, with a replacement coming so late in the day, and possibly another with Xsy asking for a replacement, I think it may be wise to request a deadline extension(probably just a day or two to give replacement(s) some time to talk. I'm still thinking a Warlord/Iggy lynch is a good idea, but if need be we do have room for a nl and we would still have a mislynch available tomorrow. But, I want to see what Iggy's got to say before I draw any conclusions here.

 

[Evil Eye]

So, it's a pretty much decided Warlord lynch? He's at L-2 now.

Um, not at all. The whole point of figuring out who our collective top suspects were was to allow them time to form proper defences and let us go from there on the off chance we get eye-opening new information.


Xsy and Warlord kind of really screwed up what could have been a very productive D1 by leaping right out of the pan when it was getting hot, but all is not lost. We can't expect their replacements to explain their rationale, but we can't give them clean slates, either. In SWFMafia, one of our BRoom games, one scum almost slipped by via the mere virtue of being replaced, no lies, three times in rapid succession. We cut too much slack for past actions. However, I eventually reread the entire game (which almost drained my will to live btw) and saw that all four pieces fit together in a scummy fashion, so to speak.

As I said for Marshy I'll now say for Iggy -- hopefully he can provide a unique insight into these actions through knowing more about the role.


With all that said, I do think it reflects poorly on Warlord that he ditched essentially right as it became clear that his appeals to emotion weren't working and that the noose was tightening. And, more importantly, the paper trail of discussion about him is still codified into this game, the opinions expressed still valid.

And even more importantly, a lot of things we can learn from MasterIggyWarlord's lynch relate to the flip and the paper trail, independently of the replacement. As such, I'm fine with my vote where it is. But with that said, an extension is definitely well-deserved on our end (two replacements who were IN THE CHAIR on D1!?) and beneficial. We have plenty of time left, so let's make of use it.

That goes double for you, Iggy and ... whoever replaces Warlord!

 

[Ignatius]

Alright, I'm reading a bit now to catch up, I've only just started the top of page 6(40 ppp), so I figured I'd put this out there now. I can explain to a decent extent what Warlord seemed to be going for, but it'll also involve me being forced into claiming, but that's better than a mislynch at this point, so if a few people would like me to, speak up while I'm catching up.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

WHy NOT

 

[mentosman8]

If it saves us a mislynch you may as well, we've got one in this game so if you can prevent it it's worth the claim.

 

[Omni]

This is why we should put a stricter regulation on who is allowed to play these games. Our two biggest leads getting replaced =

Now I can't confirm my speculation on Xsyven because I never got his responses. Whomever replaces Xsyven will have a completely different playstyle so it would be near **** impossible to read into their opinion on the situation from Xsyven-cornered-point-of-view. The same goes with Warlord.

At this point there's only 2 things we can do concerning these two:

1.) Take the information (or lack thereof) that we have gained from both Xsyven and Warlord and draw a hypothesis on their standing.

2.) Request that both replacements read the entire thread, tell us who is the play, and ask them what they think of their previous player's actions.

Like Mentos said an extension will need to be made. I don't like this though because the trail will just get cold due to so much passing of time. Once Iggy and Xsyven's replacement come in, I doubt that they can say anything to actually defend their previous player's behavior.

Although I have my vote on Xsyven whom I still lean heavily towards I almost feel inclined just to lynch Warlord so that the day will end. During Night we get the replacements confirmed. Day 2 we start fresh.

This is stupid.

 

[Omni]

Ninja'd by 3 people.

I'm for Iggy roleclaiming.

 

[Chaco]

A replacement does not have a clean slate.

 

[Omni]

A replacement does not have a clean slate.

? No one said a replacement has a clean slate.

 

[Chaco]

I'm just saying that in response to your comments about the replacements have differing views.

 

[Ignatius]

Alright, my Robot Master is Grenade Man, and to save those of you who aren't too familiar with the Megaman series in general, he's from Megaman 8. Each night, I have to use my power(which to me, is the only reason I can think that it'd be used n0). I throw a grenade at a player(can also self target), and that player has to adhere to a posting restriction of my choosing. However, there are some things I can't make it, such as anything that promotes inactivity, or limits posts.

If the person violates the restricion a set amount of times, then they receive a negative effect. I would like Macman to answer if he knows how many times he can violate it, and what the effect is, if he can answer those.

There's also one other tidbit in the role that I wasn't really sure about including, as it clearly as an impact on some sort of role. But it's pretty laid out that this ability counts as a projectile.

First night the target was Macman, however, I'm really not sure why Warlord was trying to put so much pressure onto Macman. He tried to double up and also do an all caps restriction to make Macmans seem less legitimate, but it doesn't make any sense why he'd want to do that unless he had some sort of gut feeling that Macman was mafia for some reason.

I'm now fairly certain that Xsyven has the ability that caused Macman's unusual posting restriction. That Xsy would try to conceal that (it seems) could be a town or scum tell, really -- either he sees that the town is getting ready to dogpile and bends the truth for fear of this damning him (bad idea, but not out of the question), or he's mafia, he did it to Mac, and he's lyin' through his teeth.

I honestly don't know how Xsyven would have been able to notice that as fast as well. I think everyone is looking too much into a null tell here, and it may be that the only way to see that is that I am lynched and flip town. However, this does not solidify him as Town in any way, shape or form. Just that, in this instance, Xsy nailing macmans restriction correctly was a bit of a lucky call.

And now to do a lot of repeating myself, as I show off some Warlord:

The post that started it all.

If you read that post carefully, he makes it blatantly clear that he knows exactly what he is doing by faking this posting restriction; incriminating Macman. In fact, it's exactly what he's driving at.

And once again, I challenge anyone (Warlord included) to read over that post and actually think of a single pro-town reason to do what he did.

Possibilities:

1) Warlord is town, Macman is mafia -- Warlord would have no reason to be suspicious of Macman. The closest thing we probably have to a cop is dead, and frankly, I don't put the stock in a 100% new player to try to disguise a night-guilty in such a laborious fashion while trying to secretively push the lynch. Think back to your first game and honestly ask yourself if you were thinking so circuitously. I doubt it very much.

Thus there's really no possibility here other than Warlord assuming that Macman's posting restriction = mafia, and that him faking it would make him look even more guilty, and so he did ... whatever the hell you call what he did. But you know what? I don't buy that for a second. You're not supposed to lynch someone on evidence you fabricated for no damn reason. You're supposed to lynch them on evidence that actually exists.

There's really no evidence for me to be able to comment here, I don't believe that Macman has done anything scummy toDay. I have no idea why Warlord was so hellbent on trying to get Mac to violate the post restriction.

My best guess is that Warlord was somewhat of a trigger-happy noob, and really wanted to see his power come into fruition on whoever he put it on. Similar how to I find a lot of newer/bad players instantly shooting n0/1 with a vig and hitting a doc/cop/whatever. It's just plain bad play.

2) Warlord is mafia, Macman is town -- Ballsiest. Play. Ever. A few reasons I can think of for it, I suppose. If mafia had a stalker or another similar role, there's a chance they went after Mac and saw him as threatening enough to risk one of their own (the newest player) to try to get him lynched. I consider that unlikely.

There's also the possibility of Warlord making an unconsulted move that was as stupid as it looks from a mafia POV. This I consider far more likely. However, I do concede that the more I think about it, the less yield i can really see for a mafioso attempting that -- even a brand-new one.

3) Warlord is mafia, Macman is mafia -- Just as ballsy. The only reason I can think to do that is that the entire "oops I suck" was manufactured and that Macman has an important mafia role (Megaman, perhaps). The idea being to get Warlord lynched and clear Mac in the process. Sounds ridiculous? It is. It's the only reason I can really think of for this to happen of the two of them were in a shared allignment on speaking terms (cult, mafia, whatever), and it just doesn't click. Draws too much attention I consider this the absolute least likely scenario. Of any listed.

In the first case here at least, I find to be a lot less plausible than the second, since Warlord generated the post restriction. Were he to try to fake the same restriction he made, and was in a mafia, I'd like to think at least someone would have told him how to make a caps lock post. Although there is also the possibility of a noob mafia, lack of communication, or just general lack of thinking to ask someone if they know how to bypass the Caps censor.

In case 3, you see Warlord posting so far in this thread in a way that would almost make this make sense to me. If mafia has a role that forces post restrictions, put it on one of their own, and even bus themselves since Warlord was admittedly not that great of a player. But the issue here is, I'd think mafia would rather try to keep the restriction on themselves, as typically restrictions are seen as pro town. And bus'ing Warlord loses them the chance to do so.

4) Warlord is indy, Macman is town. Oh baby, yeah, I can see this one. Warlord seems, if not mafia, an almost definite indy, to me. And his gambit lends to a very clear interpretation of his actions -- lyncher and lyncher target.

I'd honestly say that this would still loom pretty convincing even with knowing Warlord being able to put a restriction on, presuming it had no side affect at least.

To get back to Warlord, his stunt is exactly the kind of thing I'd expect from a newbie lyncher, if they were the type of player to pull a stunt at all -- which Warlord quite clearly is. This is probably the most likely possibility that I've listed, and the most likely one I can think of.

5) Warlord is town, Macman is town -- If this is the case, we've been waiting, what, a week for Warlord to explain how his manoeuver in any way resembles a pro-town manoeuver. In any way resembles anything that could possibly benefit the town. By trying to manufacture evidence against someone else, if that person were to be town, Warlord has set up two mislynches the mafia can coast right on through.

I know people have discussed this until they were blue in the face, but I want everyone to really think that over and realize how truly, monumentally stupidly antitown Warlord's move was, and how very unlikely it is that a town-minded player would do such a thing. Really think that through. Can you ever see yourselves doing such a thing? Come on, now! Use your heads.

Honestly, this is pretty much why I instantly offered to role claim, as seeing what my role actually was, and how Warlord was playing just doesn't make any sense. It's possible that T/T is the scenario here, I certainly haven't gotten any scummy vibes from Macman so far. The only thing that has really bothered me, while reading through, was when he said he was 90% sure that this ability was mafias. But I think that only really got to me as I knew that the role came from me, and Evil Eye also shed some light on a Mad Scientist being a town role as well in his game.

The one, big glaring whole in all of this, is that the only explanation I can give for Warlords actions is that he was waaaay too ability happy and just really wanted to see his role work.

Also, Warlord's striking back at me reeks of OMGUS. In his first retaliation post, he somehow tries to use the fact that I tried to steer discussion away from posting restrictions as evidence that I was "defending Macman". When called on the fact that other people had already said so before I did, he offers this response:

Again, this is something that I just can not explain. Nor can I explain how Warlord was so eager for everyone to lynch him D1, just to see him flip town; which was supposed to suddenly make Macman guilty for also posting in caps? wat.

Well, Rockin voting for smashman was a blatant pressure vote. I didn't say anything at the time to avoid, y'know, deflating the pressure of said vote. Now, you could argue Warlord doesn't know about pressure votes, and I might agree with you. My point here is only to illustrate how desperate he is to get the attention anywhere but on himself.

Look at that. Look at that. Does that seem townie to you at all? He admits that his strategy was to make himself a townie by pretending to be the victim of a night action. Um, at the expense of a possible townie that actually was!? Who you then tried to incriminate by that very same token!?! There is absolutely no townie explanation for this behavior!

Again here, The only explanation that I can offer is just tremendously stupid play. I'm sorry if that sounds like a broken record, but I've been replaced into a pretty terrible situation.

Now, which one do I think we should lynch? Warlord.

I think if Warlord were to flip as an indy lyncher, this would clear Macman.

I think if Warlord were to flip as an indy cultist, this would give us a great deal of people to look at on D2. Plenty of people seem to have outright dodged really investing in the Warlord debate, and that's a real shame, because it was discussion with some real meat to it. I mentioned Rockin earlier, and I think if Warlord were to flip cult, Rockin would be someone to look at during the Night and on D2.

I think if Warlord were to flip scum I'd again be interested in Rockin and other dodgers.


Lastly, if Warlord somehow flips town, I still think we'd have a good deal of information to deal with, just based on the enormous paper trail of discussion that has used him as a fulcrum.

I will flip town, and based on the fact that I am the one that gave the post restriction, if you still believe that you'd get the most information from lynching me, I'd have to say go for it. However, I'm not too sure at this point what it would show, other than a lynch went awry due to some very anti-town play by a townie.

A replacement does not have a clean slate.

Correct, which is why I'm doing the best I can to make up for some pretty terrible play.

If anyone else has any questions, I'll field them to the best of my ability.

 

[Handorin]

I have a question.
Is there some hidden meaning here?

The one, big glaring whole in all of this

j/k

Sounds legit. I'll buy it for now.
Unvote: Iggy the MasterWarlord

 

[Chaco]

Question: If Warlord gave him the post restriction of typing in all caps, why did he fail at doing it himself? I believe he said it was not possible. Also, can you use your ability on yourself?

 

[Handorin]

"Each night, I have to use my power(which to me, is the only reason I can think that it'd be used n0). I throw a grenade at a player(can also self target), and that player has to adhere to a posting restriction of my choosing. However, there are some things I can't make it, such as anything that promotes inactivity, or limits posts."

One of the first things he said. Come on now. =/

And WL didn't realize how Smashboards worked, that's why he failed.

 

[Ignatius]

I believe I stated that I can use it on myself, but yes I can target myself. As some restrictions were well... restricted from being used, the role PM provided a list of possible restrictions you could place. Posting in all caps only was one of them.

My only guess as to why he wanted to say it wasn't possible was to try to get the characters that Macman would use to caps bypass not count? Or maybe it was just said in frustration from his attempted plan to claim a similar restriction and failing.

 

[Chaco]

I don't believe his claim fully then. It said Grenade man attacked anyone, and anything without discriminating including himself. He was masochistic. So it only would make sense that it would be able to be used on himself. It also said he didn't aim well or something, Id think it'd be a random target action.

 

[Chaco]

Bah ninjad nvm!!

 

[Omni]

The claim sounds solid enough.

 

[Chaco]

Well he cleared all my doubts. Unvote

 

[Evil Eye]

The claim of Grenade Man and his power sounds solid. The allignment I'm not sure about.

Honestly, "stupid townie" looks more likely with a MasterWarlord that is just latching onto Macman's posting restriction. "Stupid townie" becomes even less likely when he put the restriction he latched onto on him in the first place!

Instead you have a clear indication that Warlord orchestrated this thing from the get-go. He slaps the restriction on Macman, then accuses him of faking it because ho ho it's actually WARLORD that has the restriction! And tries to use this to incriminate Macman. Why? What's the percentage?

I respect Iggy for coming into a terrible situation, and tbh I don't think Warlord deserved a replacement. But with that said, the defences boil down to:

Warlord: Sorry guys, I'm ********!
Iggy: Yeah, he's pretty ********.


I know there wasn't much more I could expect, but these actions still stand out to me, and they look even worse in lieu of the revelation that Warlord pushed this entire thing from the ground up.

 

[Omni]

Yes, his claim seems very solid, but it doesn't sound like a Town role.

@Iggy: How many times can you use this power? Also, I think you're Independent.

 

[Ignatius]

The allignment I'm not sure about.

Instead you have a clear indication that Warlord orchestrated this thing from the get-go. He slaps the restriction on Macman, then accuses him of faking it because ho ho it's actually WARLORD that has the restriction! And tries to use this to incriminate Macman. Why? What's the percentage?

I know there wasn't much more I could expect, but these actions still stand out to me, and they look even worse in lieu of the revelation that Warlord pushed this entire thing from the ground up.

I agree, and don't blame you for coming to those conclusions. I can not think of a reason why a town alligned player would ever want to push so hard for Macman right at the start of this game. Not only that, his plan of trying to incrimidate Macman by posting the same as his doesn't seem to be able to be fruitful in any way, unless it was in an attempt to get bus'ed

There's just no way I can hope to explain it.

 

[Ignatius]

Yes, his claim seems very solid, but it doesn't sound like a Town role.

@Iggy: How many times can you use this power? Also, I think you're Independent.

Every night I must use it, but there's also one other thing I forgot to mention, I can't target the same person twice.

 

[Chaco]

Remember guys, all Master Robots have powers. As Scav said we shouldn't rely on these powers alone. I belive this sticks with the claims as well. I think he's town. But as far as EE, Ill have a post up about him tomorrow.

 

[mentosman8]

Hmm... Iggy's post is simultaneously good to hear and, well, troubling. On one hand, it's enough to make me a lot more unsure about the lynch, and I am actually leaning no lynch right now. On the other hand, the defense he gave was kind of odd.

Now, the questionability I see with his defense comes down to one main thing, and one other lesser thing. The main part is that I was getting a strong indie read from Warlord, and, well, let's be honest and say that the role he described seems like a potential indie role. Really, when you think about it, it could be along the lines of a lyncher(what I originally thought), attempting to get the person to break their restriction X amount of times to have the effect happen on them, leading to a victory.

There's also the fact that a lot of his defense comes down to "yeah, warlord did something stupid," which is exactly what we were getting from him that we weren't happy with.

HOWEVER: His claim is definitely enough to make me uncomfortable with his lynch. Maybe not completely sold that he is town, but it's enough to give the benefit of the doubt for the day knowing we can only mislynch once in this game. Also, it makes me entirely unconfident in a Xsy/replacement lynch, because if Warlord/Iggy made the restriction, that kills the main reason he was suspected(Mac thought it was a mafia role, Xsyven seemed to know what the restriction was as if he had caused it). Due to this, as I mentioned earlier, I am favoring a no lynch at the moment unless something big comes up. I do have a couple of other suspects that I am going to look at posts from either tonight or tomorrow, but having one of our major suspects come up with a semi-reasonable claim, which removes the main reason of suspicion for the other will make it hard to come up with anything reasonable here.

 

[Omni]

Every night I must use it, but there's also one other thing I forgot to mention, I can't target the same person twice.

I don't doubt that your power is legit. My problem is trying to line up both your abilities as Grenade Man and Warlord's irresponsible behavior as Town. Neither of the two fit.

How could your abilities benefit the Town? I can't think of a single reason. It seems as if the only thing you ability does is bring needless attention from both sides. Idk.

At this moment, I am more comfortable with a Xsyven lynch than an Iggy lynch. If we take into consideration that Iggy's powers are legit then Megaman won't kill him tonight seeing as that his power sucks ***. We could use him in our scumhunt if he is indeed Town.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

never got a pm. but i'd still like to replace

 

[mentosman8]

Omni, as I said in my last post, the ONLY reason Xsy was as suspicious as he was, is that Mac was so confident the ability that gave him a posting restriction was mafia-based, and Xsyven called it out right away as if he knew what it was beforehand. Without that, there's really nothing major to go at Xsyven for because, quite honestly, he clearly did just pick up on it right away. So, what is the reason for you to believe he is a better lynch? Do you have another major reason to believe he is scum, or are you just not paying attention to the fact that Iggy's claim has pretty much just eliminated the reasoning for suspecting Xsyven?

 

[Ignatius]

I don't doubt that your power is legit. My problem is trying to line up both your abilities as Grenade Man and Warlord's irresponsible behavior as Town. Neither of the two fit.

How could your abilities benefit the Town? I can't think of a single reason. It seems as if the only thing you ability does is bring needless attention from both sides. Idk.

At this moment, I am more comfortable with a Xsyven lynch than an Iggy lynch. If we take into consideration that Iggy's powers are legit then Megaman won't kill him tonight seeing as that his power sucks ***. We could use him in our scumhunt if he is indeed Town.

And I agree that nothing about how Warlord was playing makes any sense for how a townie should use this role.

The only way my ability would benefit the town, would be if I put the restriction on a mafia/indy, and they failed to meet it.

Now here's a question for you, I just tried to powerread and address a lot of the concerns that were floating my way so I didn't get mislynched, but what is your case against Xsyven at the moment? A lot of people seemed to be suspicous of him mostly because they thought he was the one putting the restriction onto Mac.

Also, there was one last thing that I wanted to clear with Scav before posting about it, since Macman needed to find out what he could as well; I was the target of a night action as well, and I think it's one town should probably be aware of. I was hit by a flying robot during night 0, and because of this I can't vote today. So, I've been voteblocked, if I am lynched toDay still, just make sure that you know that someone getting voteblocked is a possiblity.

 

[Omni]

@Mentos & Iggy: I started my post pre-Bad Idea Mafia waiting for the 11:30 deadline. Mentos' post ninja'd mine. It actually makes perfect sense if we consider the strong possibility that Mentos [Warlord] placed the restriction on Macman.

Unvote: Xsyven

Now that both trails seem to have reached a wall I'm going have to re-read this thread taking into consideration the new details I got from Iggy.

 

[mentosman8]

Um, you mean that Iggy[Warlord] placed the restriction? Cuz I =/= Warlord

 

[Rockin]

I just want to firstly say that the big post Evil Eye wrote was enjoyable and full of win (even though it had some form of question about me in the near end lol). I also want to say that, yes, this is how Evil Eye plays.

Alright, I'm reading a bit now to catch up, I've only just started the top of page 6(40 ppp), so I figured I'd put this out there now. I can explain to a decent extent what Warlord seemed to be going for, but it'll also involve me being forced into claiming, but that's better than a mislynch at this point, so if a few people would like me to, speak up while I'm catching up.

That's okay, cause anyone who we choose to possibly lynch first has a chance to nameclaim/roleclaim as well as put up a defense (however, nameclaim/roleclaim privilage may not be given to the 2nd victim in line...as we want to keep those claims as tightly lipped as possible) >>

At this moment, I am more comfortable with a Xsyven lynch than an Iggy lynch. If we take into consideration that Iggy's powers are legit then Megaman won't kill him tonight seeing as that his power sucks ***. We could use him in our scumhunt if he is indeed Town.

I'm going to say this now, and I'll make it clear

No power. sucks. ***.

any power, even if it's mediocre could be useful in some way, if used right. Iggy's power is no different. Take this word from a guy who's been in verg fights.

I just want to say that Iggy's statement is indeed solid. His character and power best fit together.

However, I feel a bit more comfortable with a iggy lynch, especially since he claims grenade man. It is said that he doesn't know from friend or foe. Hell, he doesn't even know his alignment he's in, so he hits himself sometimes in the Mega Man 8 game. In the game, when you face him, he does manage to hit you, but when he jumps over to you and fires at a wall, he takes damage HIMSELF.

Even though he's a robot master, the known fact that he damages himself as well as not tell what's the difference between friend or foe is dangerous in the real world. I'm more sold that Iggy is indeed a independent. The effect he has...how can it benefit town? How does it describes itself as a pro-townie role especially since he could use it on himself?

and just to show Omni how this power 'doesn't suck ***'

I HAVEN'T BEEN GIVING ANY VALUABLE POSTS CUZ I HAVEN'T REALLY FELT LiKE IT. ESPECIALLY SINCE I HAVE MY STRONG SUSPICIONS OF XSY AND WARLORD. AND I DIDN'T REALLY FEEL LIKE GIVING MY THOUGHTS ON OTHER PEOPLE.

THAT's IT.

The power he says can do everything except limit post or inactivity. who says it can't stop a person from using his powers...or worse...their scumhunting abilities? I know this is probably stretching it, and I don't think we really need to focus the list, but I want to make a point to just how indie his role is. >>

 

[#HBC | Mac]

K DIDN't READ ALL THE POSTS UP TILL THIS POINT.

THIS MAKES WHAT HE DID 1000x MORE ANTI TOWN THAN IT ORIGINALLY WAS. DUDE JUST FELT THE NEED TO CAST A ****LOAD OF SUSPICION ON ME FROM THE GET GO? WTF. THAT KIND OF **** DOESN'T FLY. AT THIS POINT YOU DESERVE TO BE LYNCHED. SRRY IG, BUT WHAT WARLORD DID IS WAY TOO MUCH NOT TO LYNCH SOMEONE OVER.

I ALSO DONT SEE WHY SCAV WOULD MAKE THAT A TOWN ROLE. IT IS ANTI TOWN IN EVERY SHAPE AND FORM. I BELIEVE HIS CLAIM 100%. BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE HE IS TOWN. I AM NOT ANSWERING YOUR SILLY QUESTIONS EITHER BECAUSE CLEARLY YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO ME WHEN I MESS UP.

WOW.

THIS WILL BE EXTRA FUNNY IF YOU FLIP TOWN I SWEAR.

UNVOTE VOTE:WARLORD

 

[Ignatius]

The power he says can do everything except limit post or inactivity. who says it can't stop a person from using his powers...or worse...their scumhunting abilities? I know this is probably stretching it, and I don't think we really need to focus the list, but I want to make a point to just how indie his role is. >>

I think you've gravely misinterpreted me. I can only place post restrictions, and if the players fail to meet the restriction I set, then the negative effect befalls them. My power isn't anything like that.