MegaMafia | Day 4 - Mafia wins!

[Rockin]

Ahh, I see. I only ask since I've never seen such tactic before. I always seen the Mafias do their best, and when they **** up, they do their best to recover or just die trying to convince themselves as town. I've yet to see a Mafia that just surrenders like the way Master Warlord is, because I feel that no matter what, a Mafia wants to win and would do his greatest to recover from said mistake. If he were to do this at Day 3 or so, I'd understand a bit more.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Oh, sorry. I thought you had a different post in mind >>;;

so you feel that Xsyven is responsible for you being in all caps?
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also, why in that quote all the words you typed are lower case except the beginning of each word? Bare with me, please. >>;;

I THINK HE KNEW BEFOREHAND THAT I HAD THE RESTRICTION. SO EITHER HE OR ONE OF HIS SCUM PARTNERS DID THIS.

AND I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS WHEN YOU QUOTE SOMETHING THE BUILT IN SMASHBOARDS THING KICKS IN.

 

[Chaco]

II'm bothered somewhat by this post, because Master Warlord has spoke out that he has effed up his plans upon doing a restriction and most of the people here spoke about that. This post here was made after Master Warlord's third post, which is on the next page. Chaco has explained before that he should stop using the 'appeal to emotion' card already, so for him to say that part I bolded is truly weird.

Considering he used more AtoE's, I reiterated it. And the bolded was in his response to calling Mac an idiot. (In case you didn't know)

 

[Chaco]

Also, just pointing out. I see a resemblance in the style of EE and KiKi in Spidey. KiKi was obv playing "Too Townie" in Spidey, and I can kinda see that with EE here.

 

[Rockin]

I also noticed that Mentos hasn't posted in a few days. I hope he does soon...I want to hear his input on this.

Guys, how does everyone feel about making discussion till say...Aug 22nd or 23rd and then making a decision upon who to lynch? Then when we do find someone to lynch, that person could roleclaim. That way, we avoid the whole 'OMG' of new information pouring in two days from the deadline, and we're frantically searching for another lynch canidate.

 

[Chaco]

That sounds good, but I strongly oppose two claims in one day.

 

[Wikipedia]

Also, claiming in this type of game would be SOOOO easy since none of the roles are given at the beginning. It would be so unbelievably easy for a mafia member to list some obscure Megaman character and make up a useful ability and all we could really be able to say to that is, 'Oh...ok.'

 

[mentosman8]

Wow, it's been a bit longer since I posted than I noticed:/ Anyway, I'm gonna catch up with what new has happened since my last post, I'll have something up with my thoughts here within the next half hour or so

 

[mentosman8]

I said 'truly' suspicious. Meaning I don't find anything that really convinces me to lynch him or to cast huge suspicion on. If anything, it deserves a Fos. Sorry I wasn't clear on it.

I mean, I don't find anything that much of a huge problem with Master Warlord. It just seemed that, as Hando said, him just making a huge mistake and is shaking his head heavily at his actions. This happened to Chaco in Totally Normal Mafia. He made a few messups and it began to escalate...and he didn't know how to defend himself properly.




What kind of Mafia actually wants to be lynch? What kind of Indie wants to be lynch (even though Scav stated there was no jester in this game)? This is why I'm not 'truly' suspicious of him. Mafia would've been trying to help him say what he needs to say and Indies would've tried extra harder to erase their mistake. Also, due to the amount of days needing to complete, there's no way Mafia wants to mess up. For the moment, I'm just not fully convinced of a Master Warlord lynch atm.



I doubt it's Mafia, unless there's a added effect we don't know about. If all Macman does is just put capped letters, it doesn't seem useful for a Mafia to have IMO. Mafias usually have roles that helps them, not frame townies. I have my own theory in terms of what happened to Macman, but I'll wait awhile before I address it. For the moment, I'm convinced it's a power role of some kind, but not from Macman himself.

I've got EE's response to the first part copied later, but I'll say I agree with him that it's not too unusual a scum tactic. As for the posting in all caps, it could really go either way which alignment it could correspond to. I'm assuming there's some sort of added effect he can't tell us about, as Mac seems confident that it's mafia, so I could see it being a mafia role if we knew that bit. Otherwise, it could really go either way.

Said it before. I have no excuse, really, besides being a noob making a horribly stupid post last at night. My motive -was- to somehow prove myself as townie by acting as a victim, but that was a rather stupid idea seeing the townies seem to all have roles in this game anyway.

I'm still honestly very surprised everybody hasn't jumped all over me yet. Guess I might actually get to, y'know, play the game.

You're playing the game right now. What I want from you is two things right now.
1. I want an explanation of how that could have possibly proven you townie. In fact, quite the opposite would be likely. I assume you had some kind of reasoning as to how it made sense, give us that. No more of the appeals to emotion, no more "I should just be lynched now for that." Give me logic, give me thought processes, make me believe there was a reason that at some point, whether it was stupid or not, there was reasoning for it.
2. You've been doing nothing but reacting so far, so let's hear some of your thoughts on others. I know attention has been drawn to you early, but it seems like if someone isn't calling you out, you aren't talking.

Right now I'm looking at Xsyven and Evil Eye. Here's why:


Keyword: only. Did we not notice that in addition to Macman's odd posting that he was typoing at a ridiculous rate? Why would someone who should have no idea what the posting restriction is only put emphasis on capital letters? To add on to this, he was the first to put an end to the joking stage and asked everyone to think of reasons behind Mac's post restriction without giving his own. To top it off, let's ask the question again:

"What are the reasons as to why Macman can only post in caps?"

...The obvious reasons is that is either a post restriction or a fake post restriction. "How" Macman came about receiving this possible restriction would have been a much more effective question and yet, at the same time, would lead us no where.

I do agree, and I noticed the only at first as well. Given the timing/situation, and the massive typo amounts, I had considered Mac was just messing around, yet Xsy seemed to know it was a restriction. I do also have some thoughts on this that I'll get to after I finish responding to these posts, but Xsy's reaction does seem oddly quick and precise, one way or the other.

I need to catch up. o_o

There's way too much talk about me for how little I've actually said so far though...

All caps was... a little obvious...

I wasn't the only one who noticed was I? Still at work, and haven't read up. But I'll reply that noticing a post restriction doesn't warrant a vote.

These are Xsy's most recent posts. Overall I don't think he has offered us much at all, and keeps posting that he'll catch up and post more later and has yet to do so. Also, the fact that you've said little CAUSES more talk about you Xsyven, especially when there's been a lot of discussion pretty much around the board.

As much as I can't stand the reeking scumminess of what Warlord has done up to now, Macman, I'm really disturbed by your push for expedience. Last time I checked, we have over a week left to discuss things, and you're pressuring lynch finalization already? And one of the two people you pushed has only your vote on him and town is still waiting on that person for some substance.

And on that note:


@Xsy: What's up buddy. What's the hold-up?

I agree with this post, quoted it for that reason. I'll get to it after the quote response though.

I said it has mirrored many a mafioso, like, referring to past, specific performances. It's just a very common tactic for a mafiat that screws up or gets caught in a town net to say "Whatever go ahead and lynch me" or "lynch me, once you see I'm town, lynch ____" and these are literally the exact same tells Warlord is putting off. It's a shame Crimson King isn't in the game, because he's played that game twice now in mafia games (both of them BRoom). And I know I've seen that general tactic used in other games, and it's used almost every single game in epic mafia. Trying to convince people you're town by showing yourself as super willing and apathetic to the idea of being lynched is an age-old mafia play.

It's just that simple. First he makes a "ballsy move for town" (a ballsy move that has almost absolutely zero town benefit and sets up two mislynches if he and Mac are town), then when he realizes he has screwed up, he goes to an archaic scum-tastic defence.

Of course, townies do the same thing as well, but I have seen the whole "give up" strategy a lot before. Similar to someone claiming a hunter(shoots after being lynched) after being converted to mafia, trying to play the WIFOM of "why would I say to lynch me if I was town" and squeaking out of suspicion. But, I would say overall his willingness to be lynched is neither a town nor scum tell on it's own, and if he can give a solid explanation for his fake this should not be used to suspect him.

I also noticed that Mentos hasn't posted in a few days. I hope he does soon...I want to hear his input on this.

Guys, how does everyone feel about making discussion till say...Aug 22nd or 23rd and then making a decision upon who to lynch? Then when we do find someone to lynch, that person could roleclaim. That way, we avoid the whole 'OMG' of new information pouring in two days from the deadline, and we're frantically searching for another lynch canidate.

I agree that a pseudo early-deadline may not be a bad idea. I think it's safe to say it doesn't hurt us to have our lynch candidate ready early enough for them to defend and still have time to weigh our options afterwards.

Also, claiming in this type of game would be SOOOO easy since none of the roles are given at the beginning. It would be so unbelievably easy for a mafia member to list some obscure Megaman character and make up a useful ability and all we could really be able to say to that is, 'Oh...ok.'

So... Welcome to every game here ever? XD Just saying, the fact that it's a closed setup doesn't mean having the lynch candidates claim before being lynched is a bad idea, in fact it's still a very good idea.

Ok, now to get out of response mode and into thought mode. First of all, right now my read on Warlord is that he's our indie. Why is this? Barring a good explanation, his action would have absolutely no benefit as a townie, especially in a game where lynching smart is so important. As a mafia, he would essentially be sacrificing himself to down ONE townie, which seems a bit extreme. However, there's one role that would benefit from the maneuver: a lyncher. Seeing as it's the only role that I can see fitting the events at the moment, this is my strongest thought on his alignment.

@Xsyven: Can you come in and post some substance? As I quoted earlier you were mentioning all the talk about you with how little you've said, so even you realize you haven't done much. Let's hear your thoughts

Now, I also just thought of a possibility on Macman that I hadn't before. Mac's early posts were filled with typo's and caps, much looking like he was just messing around. I just realized that if he is not town, he may have been messing around, and when Xsy mentioned the all caps he decided to act like it was a restriction to play that card. Now, I'm not saying this is the most likely, but it is very possible and I don't think anyone mentioned it so I felt I should point it out.

Other than that, I don't have any major scum reads on any one just yet. As I said I'm reading Warlord as more of an indie than scum, but as of right now he would probably be my top lynch choice, until he responds to the comments I made to him earlier in this post.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

TYPOS WERE CUZ I WAS TIPSY.

UM I PRETTY MUCH AGREE WITH ALMOST ALL OF MENTOS'S POST.

 

[Wikipedia]

So... Welcome to every game here ever? XD Just saying, the fact that it's a closed setup doesn't mean having the lynch candidates claim before being lynched is a bad idea, in fact it's still a very good idea.

Ok, now to get out of response mode and into thought mode. First of all, right now my read on Warlord is that he's our indie. Why is this? Barring a good explanation, his action would have absolutely no benefit as a townie, especially in a game where lynching smart is so important. As a mafia, he would essentially be sacrificing himself to down ONE townie, which seems a bit extreme. However, there's one role that would benefit from the maneuver: a lyncher. Seeing as it's the only role that I can see fitting the events at the moment, this is my strongest thought on his alignment.

@Xsyven: Can you come in and post some substance? As I quoted earlier you were mentioning all the talk about you with how little you've said, so even you realize you haven't done much. Let's hear your thoughts

Now, I also just thought of a possibility on Macman that I hadn't before. Mac's early posts were filled with typo's and caps, much looking like he was just messing around. I just realized that if he is not town, he may have been messing around, and when Xsy mentioned the all caps he decided to act like it was a restriction to play that card. Now, I'm not saying this is the most likely, but it is very possible and I don't think anyone mentioned it so I felt I should point it out.

Other than that, I don't have any major scum reads on any one just yet. As I said I'm reading Warlord as more of an indie than scum, but as of right now he would probably be my top lynch choice, until he responds to the comments I made to him earlier in this post.

Kid, I've been playing mafia on smashboards since before you were in diapers. lol

But yeah, that has always been one thing that bugged me about SWFMafia, the easy character/role claims.

Also, mentos, you and I call it a lyncher, Scav calls it Jester. If you read the first post carefully he clearly says there are none of these "Jester" roles and he describes them as characters that desire to be lynched or to lynch a specific person. Which is why Warlords behavior is so baffling and there has been so much conversation about it.

 

[mentosman8]

Ah, I had assumed he meant jester solely meaning the role that wants to be lynched, I hadn't heard a lyncher referred to as a jester here before

 

[Rockin]

Mentos! good of you to post again :D

Now quick question to you. How do you feel about the issue I spoke about Smashman?

 

[Omni]

I was under the assumption that the Lyncher and the Jester were two separate indie roles. The Jester's goal is simply to be lynched. The Lyncher's goal is to lynch whatever target they were given.

@Mentos: I agree. Warlord's behavior does seem to exhibit an indie role. His actions do not help us as Town yet I don't get the feeling he is Mafia unless he is more reckless than we originally imagined.

Unless...

We consider that Macman's restriction was given to him by the Mafia. If Warlord was Mafia he would be aware of the circumstances. Did Warlord intend on playing as a "victim" of the Mafia's ability so that he could be categorized with Macman? The possibility is there. Again, since Warlord has done a horrible job answering questions and explaining himself it is difficult to look any further than that.

@Warlord: I repeat: You're not dead yet. Stop fooling around and answer our questions. I'd hate to have to waste a day lynching a possible townie because they wouldn't put in the effort to actually play the game. If you believe you are truly innocent then help us out by trying to help yourself.

 

[Xsyven]

...****, my first time signing up at the beginning of the game, and I might need a replacement.

This week is extremely hectic for me. It's 6am, and I just got home from work. My shift started at 7pm. 11 hour days rock. I'll be back on my regular schedule come Monday. I don't want to give my spot away, so hopefully you guys won't mind my less-than-helpful appearances until Monday comes around, where I can afford to be much more active.

I haven't caught up with anything on the Warlord thing, but I'm going to go ahead and defend myself... from what, I have no idea. Macman's raging post restriction, I guess.

I hate the RVS. I decided that we should talk about something, and the most glaringly apparent thing to talk about was Macman's post restriction. Yeah, I know, players with restrictions are Townies most of the time-- but that's not always the case. I don't think it hurts at all to point out restrictions. The Mafia KNOWS who the town is, so how is it a 'bad thing' to point out restrictions? Especially when there's absolutely nothing going on in the game yet.

Macman is now dead set on killing me for pointing out an obvious restriction. I didn't even SAY that I thought it was a restriction.

Unvote

And with that, I say we end the RVS. That was fun. Now let's think of reasons as to why Macman can only post in caps.

Nowhere did I say "I think Macman has a post restriction." And why the hell would the Mafia be informed of such a restriction before the game even started? I mean... really? As if everyone else wouldn't notice after 3 posts like I did?

Read all the posts before my post. It's all bull****. It had to end, and scumhunting had to start. That was the ONLY thing I could grasp out of the bull**** that was posted. I'm sorry that starting the game put a giant target on my back.

If you really think that's lynchworthy, y'all deserve to lose.




I'll catch up on Warlord later. As I said, I don't really have time to be super active until Monday. Yeah, I've been online, but that doesn't mean I have time to keep up with Mafia games. I'm usually on for 5 minutes at a time between dead-time at work.

Scav, if you feel I need to be replaced in the next few days, feel free to do so, but I'd really like to continue playing.

 

[Omni]

I mean, it sucks that you don't have time.

But you haven't addressed any questions in that post so your defense doesn't really hold. There ARE reasons beyond just the simple reasons why your behavior was suspicious but because you still haven't read up on the thread you're not aware of them.

 

[Rockin]

Nowhere did I say "I think Macman has a post restriction." And why the hell would the Mafia be informed of such a restriction before the game even started? I mean... really? As if everyone else wouldn't notice after 3 posts like I did?

Read all the posts before my post. It's all bull****. It had to end, and scumhunting had to start. That was the ONLY thing I could grasp out of the bull**** that was posted. I'm sorry that starting the game put a giant target on my back.

If you really think that's lynchworthy, y'all deserve to lose.

I'm not sure about anyone else, but the only reason I'm after you because it was the very first thing to talk about, even though you knew Macman was posting in RVS mode. Sure, I'm sure all of us noticed it, but still...understand that in RVS mode, people tend to act goofy in it. I'll admit, someone constantly posting in caps is a bit odd, but that doesn't decrease the possibility that he was doing it for lulz. And also, you're not the only one that hates RVS. Marshy doesn't like them, and neither does Medi. I don't think KevinM likes them either. So what they all do is just not post till discussion actually starts. RVS usually last for several hours if anything.

 

[Wikipedia]

To defend Xsyven for a bit, my first thought was that Macman had a posting restriction, I didn't think he was just doing it for kicks. I thought it was pretty obvious.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

YOU CLEARLY HAVEN'T READ THE ENTIRE THREAD. I SUGGEST YOU DO SO BEFORE YOU RESPOND XSY.

 

[Handorin]

YOU CLEARLY HAVEN'T READ THE ENTIRE THREAD. I SUGGEST YOU DO SO BEFORE YOU RESPOND XSY.

You clearly didn't read his whole response.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

I CLEARLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAt YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY.

 

[Rockin]

I CLEARLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAt YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY.

He's basically saying for you to read it again. Xsyven won't be able to respond till on Monday, due to his work schedule. Even if he were to read the thread, we still have to wait till monday for him to respond.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

I READ THAT PART AND ALL THE REST OF HIS POST. DOESN't CHANGE THE FACT THAT HE SHOULD MAKE SURE TO READ THE WHOLE THREAD BEFORE HE RESPONDS.

SEEING AS HOW HE DIDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE ANY PART OF WHY I AM SUSPICIOUS OF HIM.

 

[Rockin]

I READ THAT PART AND ALL THE REST OF HIS POST. DOESN't CHANGE THE FACT THAT HE SHOULD MAKE SURE TO READ THE WHOLE THREAD BEFORE HE RESPONDS.

SEEING AS HOW HE DIDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE ANY PART OF WHY I AM SUSPICIOUS OF HIM.

Lack of time on his part? At least he explained his reason somewhat as to why he brought up that issue with you.

Still, with Xsyven busy till Monday, we should put our focus on others, as well as figuring out who we're gonna lynch by Aug 22nd. 23rd being the latest. So that way, we could give them a chance to explain themselves and such (that is assuming everyone agrees to this. So far, I only heard a few agreements to this).

 

[Xsyven]

Good job Macman, you just reiterated what I already said. I didn't read the thread.

Now I'm curious as to how I could possibly be suspicious for having only posted two times. I'll try my best to be caught up before Monday.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Good job Macman, you just reiterated what I already said. I didn't read the thread.

Now I'm curious as to how I could possibly be suspicious for having only posted two times. I'll try my best to be caught up before Monday.

I'm JUST ADVISING YOU TO READ THE THREAD SO YOU DON'T WASTE TIME TYPING UP ANOTHER POST THAT DOESN'T DEFEND WHAT I AM SUSPICIOUS OF YOU FOR.

 

[Chaco]

Now I'm curious as to how I could possibly be suspicious for having only posted two times. I'll try my best to be caught up before Monday.

WIFOM.

Xsy, being V/LA is cool bro. At least you're telling us.

 

[Chaco]

Mod: Prods were applicable?

 

[smashman90]

Huh, I thought I posted this yesterday, apparently not, oh well.

Smashman - Hasn't...really been helpful and hasn't been contributing too much as of yet. His first game post was just him explaining the possible mafias and indies in the game. I felt he could've added a bit more in that post (maybe tell his opinon of the current discussion at hand), but he didn't. It's strange cause usually people who havn't read would at LEAST make some note saying 'I'll tell my 2 cents about the _____ etc. discussion.'

Notice how he speaks about the Macman issue at hand, but not the Warlock one, till like after a few people including myself mentions it. I find it truly weird indeed. Again, doesn't mention he'll speak about the other issue at hand.

Rockin, I love how you forgot to mention this part of my post:

As for the whole Macman-Warlord situation, I'm not totally sure what to think of it. I'm getting weird vibes everytime I read it, but I can't tell who is giving me those vibes. Is it Macman? Warlord? Spam Master's Gut? My butt? Ted Kennedy in a Barney Suit? Eor in a Bear suit? It's been puzzling me. I'm hoping that my question to Macman will give me some more ideas on the whole situation. But I should try to come up with a question for Warlord, but sadly I can't think of any questions to ask him at this moment. I'm sure I'll come up with something, just need some time to think of one.

Still can't think of any good questions to ask Warlord at this point. The more I try to read Warlord's posts and stuff, the more confuzzled I get when I try to figure out his reasoning and stuff. It makes me want to hit my head on my desk...

As for Macman's answer to my question, I wish he was able to answer my question as it could've given us a clue to which character may have done the attack and possibly confirm which side he is on (Mac seems certain that a mafiaso did it). I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one here who thinks that there is some sort of other effect to Macman's posting restriction.

Also, I too thought that Macman that had a posting restriction when he first posted in caps. I don't think I've seen people do that very often on early D1 in SWF Mafia games.

Plus, I think that the early deadline isn't such a bad idea.

Dang it, I know there is something else that I wanted to say but I can't remember what it was.

 

[mentosman8]

Ok, so this game is getting hurt by inactivity quick. Xsyven will hopefully be able to respond to the suspicions against him once he has the time to read through the thread. I would really like to hear Warlord respond to my questions in the last post as well. We're approaching the deadline, and even closer to Rockin's proposed time to decide on a lynch to give time for defense.

@Rockin: Do you agree that we still need to consider the possibility that Mac faked his restriction in response to Xsyven's comment? If so, what do you think is the best course of action involving it?

@Wiki: Two part question, 1. Why are you defending Xsyven? 2. It's not the fact that he called Mac having a posting restriction, it's that he called the EXACT restriction Mac claims to have, looking past all the typo's and the clearly joking nature of the posts, and Mac says it was caused by a night action. Do you see the difference between the two, and if so does it affect your opinion of him at all?

@Hando: I'd like to see some more of your opinions, you've been kind of short all game. I know you made a comment about work the other day, but I'd like to see a good/quality post from you.

@Xsyven: Good to know what's going on, thanks for the heads up. Obviously when you get back, you have the suspicion on you, but I'd also like to make sure to hear your opinions on Warlord.

@EE: You were really active a few days ago, and have slowed down big time, any thoughts on my comments about Mac's claimed restriction/any other recent posts?

@Warlord: As I mentioned, there were a couple comments about you working up a defense in my last post, I'd still like to hear your response, because right now I have a strong indie read on you and if you're town we don't have much wiggle room, so I need to hear from you. until then I maintain FoS: Warlord(not sure how many votes he has so I'll stick with the FoS

Now, hopefully this will get some of the less active posters to post, and get some opinions out there to discuss so we can come to an agreement on a course of action for the day. My thoughts right now are Warlord if he can't give a logical explanation of what he hoped to accomplish by faking Mac's restriction, and possibly a no lynch if he gives me enough to doubt he's indie. As I said it's a tight game for mistakes, so I'm going to be all for a no lynch if we don't have a very solid lynch candidate.

 

[Wikipedia]

1) Why am I defending Xsyven? Because every argument needs an opposition. And if it is so suspicious that Xsyven was able to name the exact restriction than you should be suspicious of me too because I thought the exact same way.

2) Yes.
2.5) It doesn't.

 

[Rockin]

Rockin, I love how you forgot to mention this part of my post:

Hmm. I guess I wasn't clear. I seem to have an issue with that. I'll try again

After your first official post in the game, in THIS post, you speak ONLY about the Macman restriction, as well as a bit of EE saying about how he pronounced 'warlord.' Me and a few others posted after yours to ask your opinon about Master Warlord's first post. Then in THIS post, you speak a bit more about the restriction Macman has as well as a bit of the Warlord issue. Keep in mind, this was like two pages afterwards. My main gripe is that you didn't speak about both in the first post I showed, but you did in the second one. It wasn't like the issue of the two were like 5+ pages apart from each other.

@Rockin: Do you agree that we still need to consider the possibility that Mac faked his restriction in response to Xsyven's comment? If so, what do you think is the best course of action involving it?

I'm not exactly sure how to think for Macman's situation. I've yet to hear a restriction of neither fake or real in terms of putting it in caps. If it is an actual restriction, it's best to just leave it and see how it'll progress the next day (assuming Macman lives the next day from a lynch or nk >>). We can't do anything about it. I have some type of hunch of what character it could be, and if it is said character, then the restriction would make sense.

@Everyone - The day is almost here (well...technically, it's today XD). Again, assuming everyone is in agreement with the idea of picking out a said person to lynch and then have them roleclaim as well as given a chance to fight back, I want everyone to do a GOOD long read from start to now and pick out your top 3 suspects. Just 3. If you can't pick out 3, then 2 will be fine. Be sure to give out a detail reason as to why this person should be lynched. We got till the 24th to come up with a decision.

I'll post up mine sometime either in the morning or afternoon.

 

[Chaco]

This game definitely rocketed off, and then sputtered into inactivity. We know Xsyven has a good reason, but I'm really wondering where some of the people went. I know Smash will say, "Oh we have a life, believe it or not" but how simple is it to come on and say "I'm really busy don't expect a post from me until: [insert date]"

With that being said now.

@Macman: Can you tell me why you are so sure the restriction was given to you by mafia? Also, do you have any other justifications behind your vote on Xsyven? When you came into the thread, you basically said "Xsyven is scum Vote: Xsy". Not until later on, did we start to talk about Xsy as a whole. So, if you will, please just clarify on your vote.

@Rockin: My top suspects are:

Evil Eye: He came in very strong, and I noticed quite a bit of mannerisms from KiKi. With that being said, I've never played with EE before. I will not gauge his ability now, to the BRoom games that were moved into dGames. However, I definitely am kinda feeling some "Too Townie".

Warlord: Well he just ****ed up. I really still do not understand his motives. I could definitely see him as an indy.

Smash: He has posted like nothing. Smash has had 6 times this entire game. All of which have pretty much been crap. Personally, I do not see why he joined this game after opting out of TNM like a day before.

 

[Omni]

I'm still pointing a FoS at Evil Eye.

And I'm still waiting for Xsyven to explain himself.

Until then I'll just be sitting here twiddling with my thumbs (playing RPG's).

 

[Chaco]

And I'm still waiting for Xsyven to explain himself.

That won't happen until Monday.

 

[Omni]

That won't happen until Monday.

Then I'll be playing Lunar Star: Silver Story Complete until Monday.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

@Macman: Can you tell me why you are so sure the restriction was given to you by mafia? Also, do you have any other justifications behind your vote on Xsyven? When you came into the thread, you basically said "Xsyven is scum Vote: Xsy". Not until later on, did we start to talk about Xsy as a whole. So, if you will, please just clarify on your vote.

I'vE GIVEN MY REASON MULTIPLE TIMES.
AND NO I CAN'T TELL YOU.

 

[Evil Eye]

@EE: You were really active a few days ago, and have slowed down big time, any thoughts on my comments about Mac's claimed restriction/any other recent posts?

This has been the case for me with mafia, lately. Life happens, and it's hard to be persistently as active as I'd like to be.

With that said, I'll address your question in my upcomin' big post. I've been waiting for a chance to do a full reread of the thread, and I am finally sitting here on a day without plans, so I can get started.

 

[Rockin]

Omni, I still think you should at least give out some kind of list of who you're suspects are. I understand that you're waiting for Xsyven to post and such (I'm sure all of us are), but it'd really help when the time comes.

Macman, same thing, or else I'll assume your top suspects are Xsyven and Master Warlord in that order.

anyway, here are my suspects

Master Warlord - Not only he tried to fake claim (which I'll get to that later on a theory), but he...hasn't really been trying to defend himself. The fact that he posted in another thread two days ago pretty much shows that he was online >>. I felt the reason he was trying to fake claim was that he was trying to cc against Macman. Notice how all of his post are all caps (when you post with the cap lock, all words at the beginning are capitalized). Soon realizing this, Master warlord then appologize for his mistake and pretty much lost some will power. It's a stretch, but it is possible.

Smashman - So far, I havn't really been approving of some of his post so far. He hasn't really been keeping up with the group and all of his posts just speaks his review of the Macman situation, the Warlord Vs. Macman situation, and the possible characters the Mafia's have.

Xsyven - The only thing I've really got on Xsyven is his first post. Yeah, he has spoke his reasons upon it and I understand, however I just still find that weird. If anything, this just deserves a huge FoS.

So in some sense, I have two suspects. Xsyven is half lynch, half FoS for now. His next post may change that.

 

[Evil Eye]

Also, on the early deadline, I think that's a good idea. I'm kicking myself for not saying that sooner, but I wasn't expecting this week to be nearly as busy as it was, so I thought it could wait until my big post. If people are active we can figure out what the best move is going forward today/tonight with ease.