Matchup Discussion - Rob

[ScAtt77]

... Lol I never thought that this mu was that hard. Imo, ROB doesn't out camp us if you just grab his gyro when he uses it. Nair seems like an option to use against an ROBs who spotdodge > Dsmash because Oli's nair just barely outlast's the spotdodge frames.(Of course, you could always just sdi out of it if ou actually get hit b it) IIRC, ROB's ftilt range isn't as stupid as everyone is making it out to be. ROB's hurtbox actually extends a bit with his hitbox, making it easier to punish. I won't deny that his ftilt is an obstacle though.

Imo, it's near even/ slightly in ROB's favor

 

[Jiom]

Grabbing the gyro is just what rob wants you to do, now olimar can't grab or smash him to get rob above olimar, it limits olimars options giving rob time to do what he wants to do and get away with it and iirc his ftilt outranges yellow f smash if tilted down.


TL;DR grabbing robs gyro is possibly the worst thing to do in this match up

 

[Tin Man]

I think I'll save all my tricks. Since I play both characters, the knowledge I would have to share is too valuable. I was doing some testing the other day and figured out some ways we can punish ROB, still bad tho.

 

[-Vocal-]

I think I'll save all my tricks. Since I play both characters, the knowledge I would have to share is too valuable. I was doing some testing the other day and figured out some ways we can punish ROB, still bad tho.

Oh really now? What are these things you speak of? Anything we can get is helpful in this mu

 

[Tin Man]

we're still doomed really

 

[-Vocal-]

we're still doomed really

Fine, just tell us in the Xat later

 

[*_Echo_*]

he better tell us T_T

 

[-Vocal-]

we're still doomed really

Tinman, you're pranked!

I want a different name color ;-;

 

[IcyLight]

wow when i used to play and rage about rob everyone said i was supposed to win this, now i read this 8 months later of not playing and you guys agree with me. >__>

btw, best tip by p~s he told me over a year ago. if you are able to get a shield on his dsmash, if you drop your shield slightly early you get a free dsmash on him before he can do anything. same with peach and mk

 

[Noa.]

Those three dsmashes can all be shieldgrabbed and are punishable by usmash OoS. Still a useful tip though.

 

[Tin Man]

Tinman, you're pranked!

I want a different name color ;-;

its awesome eh?

 

[Dotcom]

...
apparently not.
Just gonna walk away.

 

[CT Chia]

Fino is lying about 3 stocking me and stuff. We played two friendlies at MLG CBus, and he 2 stocked me the second game... which was after I won the first game -_-

Look at the slander Olimars have to resort to save this matchup for them lol

 

[Greward]

lol i dont think its that bad. and rob outcamping us so easily i just cant agree. okay he can laser us if we go to the SH pikmin toss but we can see it coming easily and just spotdodge it and then start to sh pikmin toss him because he cant throw another laser. we usually will be able to power shield the gyro if they throw it stupidly or we can try to have pikmins in the way of gyro's trajectory so that it wont be so much of a pain. he can take most pikmins off with his ****ing tilts but anyways we should have to use them to get stage control and then start to be pushing him in the ledge and being far enough of him so that he wouldnt be able to reach us with his tilts and just pressure them to force him to approach and having enough space for preventing it or forcing him offstage. we also have to put him in the air.
usmash wont be our best killing option at all so we can use it if whenever we can xD i usually kill robs with fair or throws.
i dont know a lot of this matchup but it usually gave me some trouble, but lucario does too and its supposed to be in oli's adv . but definitely i wont think that its that much trouble, even though i havent really played good robs. hes really easy to combo if we can start a setup which is mad difficult.

 

[Dotcom]

So after thinking about it for a while. This could probably be harder for Olimar than Peach.
If you look at it, all of Rob's tilts either do a great deal of getting pikmin off, or outranging our grab. especially F-tilt.

Also R.O.B. makes short work of us in the air, because his Nair if timed right goes through alot of things we usually throw out.
Off stage R.O.B. is on par with gimping us as MetaKnight, or close to it because his Fair beats most things we throw out.
I mean it is winnable, but then again so are the MetaKnight and Luigi matchups.

 

[-Vocal-]

that's better

 

[ScAtt77]

Those three dsmashes can all be shieldgrabbed and are punishable by usmash OoS. Still a useful tip though.

Wth? Rob's upsmash can actually hit Olimar while he's on the ground,even with spacing?

Btw If you're ever out of options against ROB up close, you can always try to sh whistle to anything to punish him. Not exactly the safest option, but it can be a mixup.

 

[Noa.]

Our usmash, their dsmash.

 

[Greward]

our ftilt > rob's ftilt
this is what makes the matchup not completely imposible

 

[DanGR]

Chibo, what happened to "you guys just all suck, dotcom/logic 3 stocked me this saturday" or something.
(obviously exaggerating)

I remember you thinking Olimar owned R.O.B. a while back. What changed? :D

 

[DtJ Hilt]

Chibo, what happened to "you guys just all suck, dotcom/logic 3 stocked me this saturday" or something.
(obviously exaggerating)

I remember you thinking Olimar owned R.O.B. a while back. What changed? :D

Yeah, well.. I used to think we ***** in the MU... mainly cause I 3-stocked tommy in orlando and 3-stocked chibo in columbus. But Chibo asked for some help, so I started tellin him just about everything I knew about the match-up, and man that *** must've taken every word to heart. I've never seen more brutal **** in my life. Too bad every ROB got 4th in second round pools.

I'm happy that most of our terrible match-ups are unviable characters. lol

Also, I think The Mike is a bit bias cause Kovarish wins like every tournament down there. He's just a better player imo.

This probably lol

 

[*_Echo_*]

our ftilt > rob's ftilt
this is what makes the matchup not completely imposible

truest statment in this entire thread :D

olimars ftilt too good <3

 

[Tin Man]

omg u guuuuuuuuuuys

+1

 

[-Vocal-]

We should get the ROB boards' opinion on this pretty soon.

*waits for Fino to return*

 

[Tin Man]

The ROBs have been posting already xD

 

[-Vocal-]

The ROBs have been posting already xD

Yes, but only a few; I'm sure there are others with opinions

 

[Denti]

I've never beaten a rob, the worst MU.

 

[The Fluff]

Alright, this matchup is unwinnable. I'm convinced that ROB is a legitimante counter for Olimar :'(.

 

[wwwilliam0024]

ROB is an unwinable match-up. Easily in the range of 80:20.

Ftilt and dtilt beats EVERY good move Olimar has and utilt covers every latch zone AND SENDS PIKMIN AWAY SO YOU CAN'T USE THEM. Basically you have to whistle them back in order to use them again, it's such a mindgame cause you will try to pluck pikmin cause you only have 2, but you can't cause they're all ultra high so you have to whistle to use your pikmin again.... by the time you do that you're ****ed 8 different ways off stage - and Rob has a great off stage game in vbrawl

hello guys!! long time no posting

NO FINO! NO!!! I STRONGLY DISAGREE!!

There is a difference between impossible to win MU and NOT KNOWING how to fight your opponent.

I do recognize that R.O.B is a difficult MU but its not that asdghaskdjga how u expresses it..

Im very busy atm, but as soon as a get time ill explain the way i play the MU, its not that IMPOSSIBLE >.>

ill make a post soon.

 

[Tin Man]

I don't think your post will help tbh

 

[-Vocal-]

I think this thread is over lolol

 

[wwwilliam0024]

I don't think your post will help tbh

Sure...

whats the point? keep losing to ROBs..

 

[Dnyce]

Sure...

whats the point? keep losing to ROBs..

Someone needs to check their PM box... lol.

 

[-Vocal-]

Someone needs to check their PM box... lol.

We need to put a disclaimer on this thread that there is not a whole lot of information regarding how to beat ROB.

 

[Dnyce]

ROB sucks
+1

You should probably edit your post bro

 

[-Vocal-]

You should probably edit your post bro

But it's perfect how it is

 

[Dnyce]

But it's perfect how it is

Lol, I just didn't want you to get an infraction for 10char evasion <3

 

[-Vocal-]

Lol, I just didn't want you to get an infraction for 10char evasion <3

XD too good, hilariously too good...

 

[Angbad]

So why did everyone say that rob wasn't that great vs oli in the thread asking if there was gonna be an influx of rob players and in here you all say rob owns lol >.<

 

[-Vocal-]

So why did everyone say that rob wasn't that great vs oli in the thread asking if there was gonna be an influx of rob players and in here you all say rob owns lol >.<

>.>

Idk what you're talking about

*but actually salty cuz he got owned by a ROB this weekend*