Mass Effect series discussion

[F8AL]

I've noticed that sometimes the frame rate drops...

And I'm at peak 15 right now.

 

[Pluvia]

All this talk about the first one makes me want to play it again.

I've got various playthroughs, including an all female one (I love you Liara but why cant you die!) so I'm gonna start an all male one now. I'll just have to pretend Liara doesn't exist.

 

[LivewiresXe]

All this talk about the first one makes me want to play it again.

I've got various playthroughs, including an all female one (I love you Liara but why cant you die!) so I'm gonna start an all male one now. I'll just have to pretend Liara doesn't exist.

Well duh, you can't gloss over the Bro Rules, maan.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

Honestly, I feel like playing ME2 again with an Obama playthrough.

I am indeed bored.

 

[Master Xanthan]

Honestly, I feel like playing ME2 again with an Obama playthrough.

I am indeed bored.

If you do so, remember to accuse anyone who disagrees with you character of racism. lolz. But in all seriousness, I wonder if its possible to make a shepherd that looks like him.

 

[theeboredone]

Finished Garrus', Zaeed's and Tali's loyalty missions. Couldn't get Zaeed to be loyal through my paragon route x.x

 

[LivewiresXe]

You did Zaeed's right when you got him, didn't you? After messing up the first time, I just went back and did the Renegade route with it at first. Plus, it gives an AR upgrade. That being said, I'm certainly going to do one where I do the Paragon way.

 

[Pluvia]

You have to be really Paragon to do Zaeed's on Paragon. Luckily my canon Shepard was completely Paragon so it was easy.

If you do so, remember to accuse anyone who disagrees with you character of racism. lolz. But in all seriousness, I wonder if its possible to make a shepherd that looks like him.

Type "Vyolet Shepard ME2" into Google and that's the Shepard I used for my female playthrough. On that face database website there's an Obama Shepard as one of the top rated for men I think.

 

[theeboredone]

Well, I was still getting used to the ME world when I started the game so I did make a few Renegade choices on accident. I initially tried doing Zaeed after I got Garrus, but I still didn't have enough paragon points.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Well, I was still getting used to the ME world when I started the game so I did make a few Renegade choices on accident. I initially tried doing Zaeed after I got Garrus, but I still didn't have enough paragon points.

Yeah, I think we all messed up on some things on our first playthrough. ME2 was my first ME game and I was playing it on an 18 inch SDTV that had to run it through my VCR so...needless to say I couldn't read almost ANYTHING on the screen because an SDTV's picture is bad enough, but through a VCR cuts the picture by half or more in terms of quality. Oh, and I accidentally got into a relationship with Miranda after doing the comic thing having said I was with Ashley, so uh...that first playthrough's probably going to be the last one I do.

 

[theeboredone]

I don't like Ashley or Miranda. To be honest, none of the girls really appeal to me. If I had to choose, I'd pick Kasumi (which you can't) or Tali.

But yeah, I might do another play through, but I definitely won't be trying to do all these side quests. This game is pretty long lol.

 

[LivewiresXe]

I don't like Ashley or Miranda. To be honest, none of the girls really appeal to me. If I had to choose, I'd pick Kasumi (which you can't) or Tali.

But yeah, I might do another play through, but I definitely won't be trying to do all these side quests. This game is pretty long lol.

Not even Liara, huh?

And I've already gone through 2 twice with all the sidequests and am just about done a 3rd one. Hell, depending on stuff in ME3, I might at the end of the day wind up with 4 (because apparently you HAVE to try Vanguard) and possibly even a 5th. Though cripes, I'm probably going to do a TON of ME3 playthroughs. But I don't blame you guys who have ME1 for not doing as many. My only question is if we can import our ME2 save to ME3 if we've done the DLC missions after the final one.

 

[F8AL]

So I beat benezia.

I realized that I should run the **** away and pick her off.

Also, I let that queen go.

 

[theeboredone]

Wise choice on letting the queen go.

 

[Pluvia]

@Livewire: Yes, doing missions after the suicide mission will still count when you transfer your save to ME3. The devs confirmed it and that's why you should do Arrival after the SM.

@theeboredone: You can romance Tali in ME2.

Also was letting that queen go really a good choice? That's one of the most hotly debated topics by fans.

 

[theeboredone]

Yeah I know, that's what I'm doing anyways. I was just saying that the female characters really don't interest me. It seems like there are too many...eccentric characters with the only normal person being Jacob, which surprisingly makes him unique in a sense. And I don't plan on playing a female Shep.

Well, from my understanding about the Queen...

Spoiler

it's implied that the Arachni's ancestors were possessed or whatever by the Reapers to do their bidding. Prior to that, they were pretty chill. Seems like the Queen is trying to restore that honor and she implies in ME2 that she knows the Reapers are coming and will be there to help.

 

[Pluvia]

Unless the same thing happens to them in ME3. Fans have been demanding paragon choice backfires for ages now, and the queen seems like the perfect opportunity for that.

 

[F8AL]

Wise choice on letting the queen go.

Wrex wasn't too pleased with my choice. =/

Can't blame him tho.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Unless the same thing happens to them in ME3. Fans have been demanding paragon choice backfires for ages now, and the queen seems like the perfect opportunity for that.

What about that one choice with that Eclipse Asari? Or uh...the one on Zaeed's loyalty mission, Mordin's loyalty mission, and well, generally other things of that nature?

Plus, a HUGELY debated thing is the choice at the end of ME2 and how that plays out.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

I think that'd be great.

There should be good and bad consequences for every choice, regardless of path.

 

[LivewiresXe]

I think that'd be great.

There should be good and bad consequences for every choice, regardless of path.

I thought they hinted that "some things that seem to be the right choice won't be" or whatever for 3?

 

[sakuraZaKi]

I don't see why not, lol.

I haven't kept up with ME3 info.

 

[LivewiresXe]

I don't see why not, lol.

I haven't kept up with ME3 info.

I've been trying to avoid a lot except for raw video footage I can see. However, some jerkface told me 2 things from that whole early/rough draft script leak thing that got me pissed off he told me. And well...there was that accidentally spoiled bit about the DLC squaddie.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

I have no idea what you're talking about, and I'd love to keep it that way xD

The only thing I did hear about, because it was all over the place, was that

Spoiler

BW wanted to change the script because it was leaked

? Is that true?

 

[LivewiresXe]

Well, apparently what I'd heard was:

Spoiler

Roughly half of the script was true since it was a rough draft and they were heavily considering changing some parts that had a vastly negative reaction. I don't think it was taking them out entirely as much as it was changing some of them to be "optional things that could be changed to happen or not based on your actions".

 

[theeboredone]

Yeah, I do think they are changing some of the script due to the leak unfortunately.

You know, one thing I hope they improve on is that during loyalty missions, the third person in your squad isn't...just there so to speak. I'd like him or her to say something once in a while >_>.

Also, I hate it when character's faces are practically in darkness due to poor lightning. Sometimes it has to do with the environment, sometimes not. I'm not sure if this is a PS3 issue or a universal one.

 

[Pluvia]

That must be a PS3 issue I've never noticed that before in all my playthroughs.

Also you're kidding yourself if you think they're going to change things this late into the development. It was an early draft, for example I remeber reading 4 different versions of one scene, it was clear to see that it was nowhere near done it was just the basics, but they wont change anything for the game. Gears of War 3 said they would when their game was leaked and both them and Microsoft spouted the same bull as Bioware and MS did when they were leaked, but nothing in Gears changed in the end.

Also I don't think Bioware has ever hinted that choices could backfire. Unless they did incredibly recently, they've been tight lipped on anything story related.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Well, like you said it was a really early draft so for all we know a bunch of things in it were changed BEFORE it even got leaked.

That being said, most often Bioware tends to push the "different routes reward you in different ways" thing.

 

[theeboredone]

That must be a PS3 issue I've never noticed that before in all my playthroughs.

Also you're kidding yourself if you think they're going to change things this late into the development. It was an early draft, for example I remeber reading 4 different versions of one scene, it was clear to see that it was nowhere near done it was just the basics, but they wont change anything for the game. Gears of War 3 said they would when their game was leaked and both them and Microsoft spouted the same bull as Bioware and MS did when they were leaked, but nothing in Gears changed in the end.

Also I don't think Bioware has ever hinted that choices could backfire. Unless they did incredibly recently, they've been tight lipped on anything story related.

It wouldn't be hard to change some script choices, such as if someone is meant to die or if Shepard does "x" action in "y" situation. I'm not saying to change everything, but at least create some minor differences from the old script so people who are prone to being exposed to spoilers don't get spoiled.

 

[Pluvia]

But having said person not dying means they'll have to pay the actor to come back and record new lines. The script only had major plot points because it was an early draft, so do you really think they'll spend all this time and money changing things just because a few teenagers whined about it on the internet? People will whine about the game regardless so the smartest thing to do is say you're going to change things, then don't, then the people that read the spoilers and didn't like them will buy the game thinking it's changed and lol you have their money.

That's much smarter and free.

 

[LivewiresXe]

But having said person not dying means they'll have to pay the actor to come back and record new lines. The script only had major plot points because it was an early draft, so do you really think they'll spend all this time and money changing things just because a few teenagers whined about it on the internet? People will whine about the game regardless so the smartest thing to do is say you're going to change things, then don't, then the people that read the spoilers and didn't like them will buy the game thinking it's changed and lol you have their money.

That's much smarter and free.

They don't really have to hire the actor back to record new lines...just like get an e-mail saying so and so is in hospital recovering from injuries or something. There, done. Not that tough. And I DO know that a bunch of supposedly major things they were doing got changed since. I don't know WHO it pertains but that it was just stuff about "x was originally enemy but is now ally" and "y used to be ally but is now enemy" after revisions or whatever. And a bunch of things ARE apparently not actually mandatory. Supposedly the things shown only represented one path and the set of flags with it, not ALL paths.

 

[Pluvia]

Spoiler it, that was too vague and I didn't read anything about enemies and allies, apart from (ME3 plot point spoiler):

Spoiler

Zaeed

, in the transcript.

The transcript was major plot points, it's all the things that will happen in everyones game regardless of previous choices, and it detailed the slightly different paths too.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Then I guess we've heard about 2 entirely different things then. That or someone's just messing with you.

 

[Pluvia]

Or you, I read the transcript and I've been seeing trolls spreading lies (none of your choices matter etc) so I think you got trolled.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Hmm...in that case, hit me up on AIM, or I can send you a PM. Because some jerkface troll on the GFAQs board (who ironically went by the name "masseffect3plot", which I didn't notice until after since you have to read a message by someone to put them on ignore) sent me like 2 things from it that pissed me off in terms of not knowing about them before, I semi-want to ask you about. However, I probably won't use specifics, but you'll likely know what I'm talking about. Though...is what the rumoured total final permanent squaddie size is considered spoiler? Granted, aside from the revealed ones that we ALL knew were obvious and the DLC one that many know about, I know no further info and don't intend to until I reach it for myself in the game.

 

[Pluvia]

My laptop broke and my new one isn't schedualed to arrive until Tuesday so you'll have to PM me.

Bioware already said the squaddie size is going to be smaller than ME2, and the leaks, whilst detailing what part each previous squaddie will play (some more detailed than others) didn't say which ones would become permanent.

We already know Vega, Garrus, Liara, and the VS will be one, and the leaks told us some of them that wont, but the permanent squad size is still up in the air.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Alright, PM sent.

Edit: Also, would be appreciated if you don't tell me WHO the squaddies are.

 

[theeboredone]

Finished Project Overlord. I thought it was rather boring until the final part. Also what you find out about the story in the end...well I saw it coming, but it was still executed well.

Started Shadow Broker. Just boarded the ship. Will finish it tomorrow. Shepard and Liara sound like an old couple when you're doing the taxi car sequence.

Liara: Truck!
Shepard: I know...
Liara: Turn left!
Shepard: I KNOW!

Almost makes me want to have my Shepard have a relationship with her, but I don't dig Asaris and she was being a ***** after you

Spoiler

beat the Spectre.

And I don't understand why none of my squadmates have dialog in the DLC. It's so lame to have a mute companion.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Yeah, I know what you mean. At the very LEAST, they could've given some lines to Tali and Garrus.

 

[Pluvia]

They get a line or 2 in Shadow Broker, and he comments on them when you meet him.

If you correctly Paragon interrupt Liara after you beat the assassin then she shouldn't be a ***** to you.

Also I think they're supposed to sound like an old couple throughout the DLC, seeing as though you could bone her in ME1 if you couldn't stand Ash.