Mass Effect series discussion

[Pluvia]

F8AL, you'll be missing out on so much if you stick to 2 teammates. His tier list is for Insanity and Hardcore to a lesser extent, so you don't have to worry about it.

You're playing on Normal, there's 3 difficulties above that, so you really don't have to worry about what teammates you take on missions with you. You can litterally chose whoever you want, Normal is a walk in the park.

 

[theeboredone]

It's always fun to take different people on missions just to see what they will say. I believe even the later characters are technically programmed to speak in the early parts of the game.

 

[LivewiresXe]

F8AL, you'll be missing out on so much if you stick to 2 teammates. His tier list is for Insanity and Hardcore to a lesser extent, so you don't have to worry about it.

You're playing on Normal, there's 3 difficulties above that, so you really don't have to worry about what teammates you take on missions with you. You can litterally chose whoever you want, Normal is a walk in the park.

I agree. You just HAVE to take Garrus and Tali through the Citadel.

 

[theeboredone]

Take Legion to Tali's recruiting and loyalty mission

 

[sakuraZaKi]

^Noooo, lol.

 

[smashbot226]

So I agree with everything you say except Legion being below Tali. Why? Read this description for the M-29 Incisor sniper rifle on its wiki page:



Slap on the game yourself and you'll see it's true. With Zaeed's damage buffs he does almost as much damage as Shepard.

Because of this glitch Legion is more useful than Tali, as he has a drone and Geth Shield Boost, and a deadly accurate and powerful sniper rifle.

The same can be said for the Geth Shotgun, since A.I's aimbot can land all the shots. Combine that with Tali's not-awful power allocation and you have someone who can deal as much damage, if not more, than Legion. Like I said, there's no reason you could be using Incisor Legion over Geth Shotgun Tali.

F8AL, you'll be missing out on so much if you stick to 2 teammates. His tier list is for Insanity and Hardcore to a lesser extent, so you don't have to worry about it.

I never told him to only take two teammates. Well, you could probably rock the entire game with Miranda and Grunt if you play things smart or lack Zaeed/Kasumi, but as mentioned, Thane/Garrus/Mordin can destroy certain foes if you know when to bring them. Like I said, I'm arguing practicality over who the character is. Normal really is a walk in the park, though. I'd dare say I found ME1 Casual more difficult.

By all means, take who you will, but there's a definite pecking order in who you SHOULD bring as opposed to who you WANT to bring.

On a slightly different note,

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is anyone else sort of dreading the story with the leaks? Like... it's disappointing in my opinion. Not even a Reapers Win ending? Come on, BioWare, punish players who make bad choices!

That and they're keeping Jennifer Hepler. HEPLER! The woman who single-handed wrote Anders into a corner, transforming possibly the best Dragon Age companion into one of the worst.

 

[LivewiresXe]

I'm not sure what you're on about with that spoiler bit, but...

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A Bioware exec AND Casey have both said in interviews there's a "Reapers Win" ending, even though it's most likely only obtained in a similar way to the "Everyone dies" in Mass Effect 2 ending.

 

[Pluvia]

I never told him to only take two teammates.

I never said you did.

On a slightly different note,

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is anyone else sort of dreading the story with the leaks? Like... it's disappointing in my opinion. Not even a Reapers Win ending? Come on, BioWare, punish players who make bad choices!

They already confirmed that ending:

https://twitter.com/#!/GambleMike/status/106895746313363457

Not spoilering that because I don't think it counts as a spoiler.

 

[smashbot226]

Strange that you two should bring that up, since a translation of GameStar, a German gaming magazine, gave a few details regarding the game.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/Mas...uot-may-be-a-little-spoilerish-9034920-1.html

(11) There will be no "Reapers win" scenario, based on the reasoning that such an ending is unsatisfying for players and would lead to re-loading a saved game anyway. There will, however, be endings where whole species become extinct and many worlds are destroyed, including Earth.

So we either have conflicting sources or this is just bad clean-up. Either way, when I picture a Reapers Win ending, I'm talking about the Reapers doing what they did to the Protheans all those years ago.

EDIT: And after reading the twitter post, he clearly meant it as a Critical Mission Failure, or a Game Over. In other words, there's no Reapers Win ending AT ALL.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Or...you know, it could be a bad translation from a misinformed magazine that took things the wrong way. That's far from uncommon with games and stuff.

 

[smashbot226]

Or...you know, it could be a bad translation from a misinformed magazine that took things the wrong way. That's far from uncommon with games and stuff.

I edited it into my other post but GambleMike clearly meant that if Shepard dies in gameplay, the Reapers win. And the magazine doesn't seem wholly misinformed if you take into some of the story spoilers into account.

 

[Pluvia]

EDIT: And after reading the twitter post, he clearly meant it as a Critical Mission Failure, or a Game Over. In other words, there's no Reapers Win ending AT ALL.

Technically, it means that there is a Reapers win scenario.

 

[smashbot226]

Technically, it means that there is a Reapers win scenario.

No, that is a Game Over. That is not an ending, as you can continue where you left off before you died.

 

[LivewiresXe]

I edited it into my other post but GambleMike clearly meant that if Shepard dies in gameplay, the Reapers win. And the magazine doesn't seem wholly misinformed if you take into some of the story spoilers into account.

You can't really say "take story spoilers into account" to someone who's been actively trying to AVOID spoilers of any kind, smashbot.

 

[smashbot226]

You can't really say "take story spoilers into account" to someone who's been actively trying to AVOID spoilers of any kind, smashbot.

The fact of the matter is that said spoilers exist and can be factored into an argument. If they wish to avoid these spoilers, that is their choice. That doesn't change the fact that when you DO factor them in, a lot of the stuff mentioned in GameStar makes sense.

 

[Pluvia]

No, that is a Game Over. That is not an ending, as you can continue where you left off before you died.

But it's still a Reapers win scenario.

There's only 2 ways they could make the Reapers win, one is to make it a very last minute thing which would undermine 3 games worth of progress. The other is to force you into an unwinnable situation depending on some of your choices slightly earlier in the game, therefore undermining an entire game worth of progress.

As you can see from all the different endings there's a lot of different things that can happen, so obviously your choices will affect it, and some of the endings could be considered "bad" endings, but there's no "lol everything you did was pointless none of your choices mattered" ending because that would be ********.

 

[Grey Belnades]

By all means, take who you will, but there's a definite pecking order in who you SHOULD bring as opposed to who you WANT to bring.

On a slightly different note,

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is anyone else sort of dreading the story with the leaks? Like... it's disappointing in my opinion. Not even a Reapers Win ending? Come on, BioWare, punish players who make bad choices!

That and they're keeping Jennifer Hepler. HEPLER! The woman who single-handed wrote Anders into a corner, transforming possibly the best Dragon Age companion into one of the worst.

I've taken Garrus and Tali as my squadmates in my Insanity run. That brosynergy was totally worth the dozens of deaths I've suffered.

I have to agree. I'm abit disappointed with the leaks. I'm hoping that they aren't true.

You know, I keep hearing that. What exactly is she working on in ME3? IIRC, she isn't even on the dev team.

 

[smashbot226]

But it's still a Reapers win scenario.

You can get game overs in Super Mario Galaxy. This must mean it's technically a "Bowser wins" scenario. Except it isn't, and it doesn't count as an ending in the least bit. The death of your party in Dragon Age Origins is not an ending. Considering a game over as such is rather childish in my opinion, and loosely interprets what is an ending in the first place.

There's only 2 ways they could make the Reapers win, one is to make it a very last minute thing which would undermine 3 games worth of progress. The other is to force you into an unwinnable situation depending on some of your choices slightly earlier in the game, therefore undermining an entire game worth of progress.

It's not undermining anything if the game punishes the player for making bad choices. And I sincerely doubt that they'll pull something as heinous as the first option, though that would make for a rather nice "full circle" ending wherein Shepard acts as a Vigil for the next generation. I'm more referring to an ending where due to the player's actions (Since they are Shepard by extension) leads to the wipe out of organic life by the hands of the Reapers.

As you can see from all the different endings there's a lot of different things that can happen, so obviously your choices will affect it, and some of the endings could be considered "bad" endings, but there's no "lol everything you did was pointless none of your choices mattered" ending because that would be ********.

As you can see from all the different endings

all the different endings

1. There is no Reapers Win scenario so there is no objectively different ending other than what becomes of Shepard. Everything else beyond that is completely optional and nitpicking, i.e. who your LI is and a bunch of other minor BS.

2. Goddamn, I can't hold it in a spoiler. There are ONLY

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five

endings.

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Five

. I'm not letting false advertisement get the better of expectations. And I'm not telling BioWare to make a "lolpointless" ending. I expected a "you made choices that go against the greater good or that you regret, and as a result you screwed up big time" ending. Is that too much to ask?

You know, I keep hearing that. What exactly is she working on in ME3? IIRC, she isn't even on the dev team.

The fact that she's involved at all is borderline appalling, especially given the negative backlash fans have given her. She even has her own nickname: "Hamburger Hepler."

Statements like, "playing games is my least favorite thing" probably garner it.

 

[LivewiresXe]

The fact of the matter is that said spoilers exist and can be factored into an argument. If they wish to avoid these spoilers, that is their choice. That doesn't change the fact that when you DO factor them in, a lot of the stuff mentioned in GameStar makes sense.

Whether or not the spoilers exist in no way means they can or SHOULD be publicly factored into and used as part of a way to try and prove a point in an open forum. Yeah, there were spoilers that Sheamus was booked to win the WWE 2012 Royal Rumble, but that in no way shape or form gives somebody the right to be talking about the week before the PPV that "oh, with how the Rumble's going it makes perfect sense why they're thinking of picking up the Daniel Bryan vs Sheamus feud". I mean, with Bryan being World Champion and Sheamus being in the Royal Rumble for a title shot, what conclusions do you THINK people would jump to? It's kind of a similar situation here.

 

[smashbot226]

Whether or not the spoilers exist in no way means they can or SHOULD be publicly factored into and used as part of a way to try and prove a point in an open forum. Yeah, there were spoilers that Sheamus was booked to win the WWE 2012 Royal Rumble, but that in no way shape or form gives somebody the right to be talking about the week before the PPV that "oh, with how the Rumble's going it makes perfect sense why they're thinking of picking up the Daniel Bryan vs Sheamus feud". I mean, with Bryan being World Champion and Sheamus being in the Royal Rumble for a title shot, what conclusions do you THINK people would jump to? It's kind of a similar situation here.

While the non sequitur about wrestling brings up how they'd be picking up a feud, the ME3 spoilers bring up supposed mis-translated articles and how they don't factor in with how ME3 is supposedly being developed. It's really just a lose-lose for me, since I can either secede and render the article somewhat outdated or bring up how the spoilers round out the article rather well and have people go, "But spoilers shouldn't be brought up when people are avoiding them!"

 

[LivewiresXe]

Well, in fairness, spoilers probably shouldn't be brought up when people are avoiding them.

I mean, my personal thought is that if there was the chance of such a situation coming up if you posted it where you'd be faced with that choice, why not just not bring it up at all and see if somebody else does?

 

[Pluvia]

It's not undermining anything if the game punishes the player for making bad choices. And I sincerely doubt that they'll pull something as heinous as the first option, though that would make for a rather nice "full circle" ending wherein Shepard acts as a Vigil for the next generation. I'm more referring to an ending where due to the player's actions (Since they are Shepard by extension) leads to the wipe out of organic life by the hands of the Reapers.

1. There is no Reapers Win scenario so there is no objectively different ending other than what becomes of Shepard. Everything else beyond that is completely optional and nitpicking, i.e. who your LI is and a bunch of other minor BS.

2. Goddamn, I can't hold it in a spoiler. There are ONLY

Spoiler

five

endings.

Spoiler

Five

. I'm not letting false advertisement get the better of expectations. And I'm not telling BioWare to make a "lolpointless" ending. I expected a "you made choices that go against the greater good or that you regret, and as a result you screwed up big time" ending. Is that too much to ask?

Like I said, there's only 2 ways they could make that ending happen. One way undermines 3 games, the other undermines 1 (and weirdly all 3 at the same time). If I knew there was no way for me to defeat the Reapers, yet I still had 6 hours playtime to go, I'd be severely pissed. Bioware obviously knew fans would react like this.

And from what I read in the leaks there were many different endings, and some of them affected the galaxy in a major way, so I dunno who told you about that minor LI thing. Plus the leaks only detailed the bare basics for the ending, for all we know there could be an extended cutscene showing the effects of all our major choices like Fallout 3.

 

[smashbot226]

Like I said, there's only 2 ways they could make that ending happen. One way undermines 3 games, the other undermines 1 (and weirdly all 3 at the same time). If I knew there was no way for me to defeat the Reapers, yet I still had 6 hours playtime to go, I'd be severely pissed. Bioware obviously knew fans would react like this.

And from what I read in the leaks there were many different endings, and some of them affected the galaxy in a major way, so I dunno who told you about that minor LI thing. Plus the leaks only detailed the bare basics for the ending, for all we know there could be an extended cutscene showing the effects of all our major choices like Fallout 3.

Well, they're obviously not going to let Shepard flounder around with no possible way to take down the Reapers. That'd be silly. And of course fans would be pissed, but they'd still buy it.

As for the many "different" endings, it's different from person to person. Would you consider Fallout 3's endings to be vastly different? I mean, chances are BioWare will include DLC that lets players continue the game after it's finished as well. Hell, they have one already called "From Dust." It's about 680 megs and is not on the disc. Take that as you will.

 

[Grey Belnades]

The fact that she's involved at all is borderline appalling, especially given the negative backlash fans have given her. She even has her own nickname: "Hamburger Hepler."

Statements like, "playing games is my least favorite thing" probably garner it.

What is she actually involved in? She's not involved in ME3's development. Yes, I hear that on /v/ all the time but she really doesn't have an influence/isn't working on ME3 unless you can provide a source.

 

[smashbot226]

What is she actually involved in? She's not involved in ME3's development. Yes, I hear that on /v/ all the time but she really doesn't have an influence/isn't working on ME3 unless you can provide a source.

http://digitalhippos.com/gaming/news/rumor-gay-storyline-added-to-mass-effect-3

Her knowledge about this at least implies her involvement in what she does best (see: worst)- writing! As for the article itself, I don't have a problem with gay relationships. If they don't completely shove it down our throats like they did with Dragon Age 2.

 

[Pluvia]

Well, they're obviously not going to let Shepard flounder around with no possible way to take down the Reapers. That'd be silly. And of course fans would be pissed, but they'd still buy it.

As for the many "different" endings, it's different from person to person. Would you consider Fallout 3's endings to be vastly different? I mean, chances are BioWare will include DLC that lets players continue the game after it's finished as well. Hell, they have one already called "From Dust." It's about 680 megs and is not on the disc. Take that as you will.

Of course they're not all vastly different, but no one expects vastly different endings in ME3, we all know it's just going to be very different outcomes from 1 ending. If anyone was expecting more then they're really overestimating the power of 2 DVD's and an Xbox 360. And considering some of the endings (Big ending spoilers)

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I doubt there will be after the last mission gameplay seeing as though Shepard can die.

Also you can't use From Dust as a reference seeing as though that could easily be the extra squaddie and mission you get free with the Collectors Edition that Bioware mentioned will be DLC for everyone else.

 

[smashbot226]

Of course they're not all vastly different, but no one expects vastly different endings in ME3, we all know it's just going to be very different outcomes from 1 ending. If anyone was expecting more then they're really overestimating the power of 2 DVD's and an Xbox 360. And considering some of the endings (Big ending spoilers)

Spoiler

I doubt there will be after the last mission gameplay seeing as though Shepard can die.

Also you can't use From Dust as a reference seeing as though that could easily be the extra squaddie and mission you get free with the Collectors Edition that Bioware mentioned will be DLC for everyone else.

Considering some of the endings in Fallout 3- ah wait, you could actually continue afterward if you download Broken Steel. Not to mention BioWare absolutely loves to retcon or otherwise contradict their own lore.

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Not to mention they could pull some crap like Reaper's having magical space dust that reincarnates Shepard . Oh and I don't think it needs spoiling that he can die; that much should be blatantly obvious.

If they were going to advertise an extra squaddie for DLC, they would've done so MUCH earlier. Not, like, a month before it releases. Just look at Zaeed. Besides, I've already downloaded it onto my hard drive so I'll be sure to let you know what the contents actually are.

 

[Pluvia]

If they were going to advertise an extra squaddie for DLC, they would've done so MUCH earlier. Not, like, a month before it releases. Just look at Zaeed. Besides, I've already downloaded it onto my hard drive so I'll be sure to let you know what the contents actually are.

No, given who the squadmate is it's clear to see why they're keeping tight-lipped about him. We all know who it is, but it's not been officially confirmed by Bioware for obvious reasons. It also makes sense that it'll be DLC for non-collectors edition folks.

And also that link you posted earlier, with that woman, is fake. It's a photoshop.

 

[Grey Belnades]

http://digitalhippos.com/gaming/news/rumor-gay-storyline-added-to-mass-effect-3

Her knowledge about this at least implies her involvement in what she does best (see: worst)- writing! As for the article itself, I don't have a problem with gay relationships. If they don't completely shove it down our throats like they did with Dragon Age 2.

But she's not writing the game's script. Her writing is not in the game because (unless you can show me) she is not on the ME3 writing staff so you don't have to worry about her writing. Her "involvement" doesn't seem to be showing on the leaks. I didn't find a portion of the game where

Spoiler

Shepard deals and copes with his sexuality.

With regards to gay relationships,

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the only gay relationship that seems to be somewhat believed is with a crewmen pilot named Steve and I'm guessing it'll work the same way as Kelly.

Edit: Also, what Pluvia said about the image.

 

[smashbot226]

But she's not writing the game's script. Her writing is not in the game because (unless you can show me) she is not on the ME3 writing staff so you don't have to worry about her writing. Her "involvement" doesn't seem to be showing on the leaks. I didn't find a portion of the game where

Spoiler

Shepard deals and copes with his sexuality.

With regards to gay relationships,

Spoiler

the only gay relationship that seems to be somewhat believed is with a crewmen pilot named Steve and I'm guessing it'll work the same way as Kelly.

Edit: Also, what Pluvia said about the image.

It's not photoshopped. http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/7396186/1

Not sure who told you otherwise. And inb4 BOO HOO +250 PAGES it is there. If you could find proof that it was indeed photoshopped, I'd be glad to see it. I mean, it's not like this is the only indicator that the people working on Mass Effect 3 shouldn't be but I wasn't aware of it.

Vega is confirmed to be a homosexual LI. And given how Dragon Age 2's romances went, I'd half expect to see everyone be able to screw everyone... well, that MIGHT be a tad bit hyperbole but my point still stands. I do NOT want to see Garrus suddenly flirting with a male Shepard after the second game pretty much ground him in being more interested in flexibility than reach.

No, given who the squadmate is it's clear to see why they're keeping tight-lipped about him. We all know who it is, but it's not been officially confirmed by Bioware for obvious reasons. It also makes sense that it'll be DLC for non-collectors edition folks.

BioWare? Tight-lipped? Granted, they released Zaeed's trailer around the date of ME2's release in North America, but people found out about him... probably a month or so in advance? Plus, they're not exactly the most information-securing bunch of devs around- I think the leak should be evidence enough. And, uh speaking of the leak...

Well, let's just say

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there wasn't anything about extra squadmates.

Hell, if anything, I'd say they dropped the ball on such things. Found an interesting block of paragraphs arguing for a Batarian squadmate that is... rather convincing.

http://z15.invisionfree.com/Mass_Effect_Universe/index.php?showtopic=12252

 

[Pluvia]

Actually the extra squadmate was mentioned quite a lot in the leak, I'm sure you know

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the Prothean

is the DLC character don't you?

No Vega isn't confirmed for being gay. There are a lot of fans that want him to be gay, but Bioware hasn't said anything about his sexuality.

Also I said that image you linked, what that lady said, was fake. I never said S/S relationships being in the game were fake.

 

[smashbot226]

Actually the extra squadmate was mentioned quite a lot in the leak, I'm sure you know

Spoiler

the Prothean

is the DLC character don't you?

No Vega isn't confirmed for being gay. There are a lot of fans that want him to be gay, but Bioware hasn't said anything about his sexuality.

Also I said that image you linked, what that lady said, was fake. I never said S/S relationships being in the game were fake.

...

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The Prothean isn't DLC. Or at least last I heard he wasn't; nowhere did it mention him as such in the files, unless someone somehow got the disc and hacked it. If that's the case, it would explain why he's so surprisingly minor within the story so far other than the Cerberus quest. And if that's the case, why are there already achievements related to him? Keep in mind they're congruent with the story- achievements, anyway- and don't come after stuff like "beat the game."

I'm assuming that, well, given what we've seen from how Dragon Age 2 handled romances, Vega might be gay. Time will tell, obviously, but considering

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he doesn't even die- he's the goddamn narrator for the epilogue if you read the files closely enough

, I doubt he'll be going down as unimportant outside of story.

And the woman who made that post is infamous for her... well, idiotic statements at time. GIGGLESQUEE and all that jazz, just assumed that it was another gem for the collection, although I wouldn't mind seeing proof as to where this was confirmed as shooped.

 

[Pluvia]

...

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The Prothean isn't DLC. Or at least last I heard he wasn't; nowhere did it mention him as such in the files, unless someone somehow got the disc and hacked it. If that's the case, it would explain why he's so surprisingly minor within the story so far other than the Cerberus quest. And if that's the case, why are there already achievements related to him? Keep in mind they're congruent with the story- achievements, anyway- and don't come after stuff like "beat the game."

I'm assuming that, well, given what we've seen from how Dragon Age 2 handled romances, Vega might be gay. Time will tell, obviously, but considering

Spoiler

he doesn't even die- he's the goddamn narrator for the epilogue if you read the files closely enough

, I doubt he'll be going down as unimportant outside of story.

And the woman who made that post is infamous for her... well, idiotic statements at time. GIGGLESQUEE and all that jazz, just assumed that it was another gem for the collection, although I wouldn't mind seeing proof as to where this was confirmed as shooped.

Here is the information from a year ago for the Collector's Edition of the game:

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Because it had MASSIVE spoilers it was quickly changed to this:

We all know

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the Prothean

exists, and because of that slip up we know he's going to be the DLC character. Thing is, Bioware hasn't told us anything about the DLC character, nor have they confirmed this From Dust DLC exists, but seeing as though it's day 1 DLC most people suspect it's just the DLC character for non-collector edition people.

Also it's you that has to prove what she said was true. What she said was MASSIVE and would be all over everywhere if it were true. But look what happens when you Google it:

Click.

Notice how it's all just rumours from that one pic, but no one can find where that pic came from? Even in that first link you showed us the guy said he can't find where it came from. Plus, there's 650 pages in the S/S thread on Bioware, but if that information were true the conversations would be much different in that thread. All the evidence is against that image, especially as it's absolutely massive information and the source should be easy to find but it's suspiciously absent from the Internet.

 

[smashbot226]

Here is the information from a year ago for the Collector's Edition of the game:

Spoiler

Because it had MASSIVE spoilers it was quickly changed to this:

We all know

Spoiler

the Prothean

exists, and because of that slip up we know he's going to be the DLC character. Thing is, Bioware hasn't told us anything about the DLC character, nor have they confirmed this From Dust DLC exists, but seeing as though it's day 1 DLC most people suspect it's just the DLC character for non-collector edition people.

Also it's you that has to prove what she said was true. What she said was MASSIVE and would be all over everywhere if it were true. But look what happens when you Google it:

Click.

Notice how it's all just rumours from that one pic, but no one can find where that pic came from? Even in that first link you showed us the guy said he can't find where it came from. Plus, there's 650 pages in the S/S thread on Bioware, but if that information were true the conversations would be much different in that thread. All the evidence is against that image, especially as it's absolutely massive information and the source should be easy to find but it's suspiciously absent from the Internet.

Hmm. That is actually disappointing. Ah well, thanks for the information anyway.

And, uh, why do I need to pick out the single post from, like you said, 650 pages in order to do so? Nobody thought to screencap the page number, just the post. And if you've seen some of the other things the same poster had said, you'd be a little more hesitant to throw it off as photoshopped.

Seriously, she's horrible.

 

[Pluvia]

And, uh, why do I need to pick out the single post from, like you said, 650 pages in order to do so? Nobody thought to screencap the page number, just the post. And if you've seen some of the other things the same poster had said, you'd be a little more hesitant to throw it off as photoshopped.

Seriously, she's horrible.

From the S/S Thread regarding that image:

Fake troll image.

It's fake. That writer doesn't even work on ME3 - she's on maternity leave at the moment but usually writes for Dragon Age.

It was made by some particularly dense morons who got into a flap over the content in DA2, and some interviews Hepler had made in the past about games and story. Rather than acting like people older than six, they decided that weight jokes, nicknames and creating that fake post to make people angry at her was proper revenge.

It's true that according to her profile she's on maternity leave. Plus I've been keeping close attention to gay relationship information in ME3, and this massive information would be everywhere if it were true. There's no source for that image anywhere on the Internet let alone the forums.

You can even go to the S/S thread and just read like the past 10 or 20 pages, though to save you time I'll summarise:

"Kaidan is probably bi seeing as though he had S/S dialogue removed in the first one"
"I sure hope Vega is gay *posts gay Vega fan art*"
"Is this Steve guy all we get? I sure hope not/I don't mind"
*Some people wanting Garrus to be bi/some people not wanting Garrus to be bi*

Notice how there's no talk about that massive information you linked to? That sort of information should be the prime talking point of that thread and other threads seeing as though it's honestly quite crap and unfitting, yet no one is talking about it.

It's fake.

 

[smashbot226]

"Kaidan is probably bi seeing as though he had S/S dialogue removed in the first one"
"I sure hope Vega is gay *posts gay Vega fan art*"
"Is this Steve guy all we get? I sure hope not/I don't mind"
*Some people wanting Garrus to be bi/some people not wanting Garrus to be bi*

Notice how there's no talk about that massive information you linked to? That sort of information should be the prime talking point of that thread and other threads seeing as though it's honestly quite crap and unfitting, yet no one is talking about it.

It's fake.

I left out the stuff about Hepler because I'll secede that the image can't be found, although I'm still reticient as hell toward her.

I left in the other stuff because... dear God, I actually did check the thread against my better judgment. I'm saddened that these are the first people BioWare goes to for ideas. Someone did bring up an excellent point about the "consistency" of BioWare's character development on the first friggin' page.

 

[Pluvia]

Regarding S/S romances, I think Kaidan should be bi (because come on, you get this whole vibe from him and he was supposed to be, along with Ashley, in the first game) and Vega should be gay (not bi, gay). With females then Ashley maybe? Seeing as though she was supposed to be already.

If they do this then people wont complain, especially the Vega thing. In fact I think they'd get more complaints if they made everyone bi.

 

[smashbot226]

I know Kaidan has some lines with make Shepard in the first one so I'm fine with that so long as they don't make it seem forced, while I couldn't honestly care less about Vega.

And yes, I think people would complain if they made everyone bi, seeing as how that was one of the biggest complaints of Dragon Age 2.

 

[Pluvia]

I think they should make all romance initiating conversations pink. You can completely avoid them if need be and Shepard has to initiate it.

I accidently got Ashley in bed when I wanted Liara in my canon run and it still annoys me.

 

[LivewiresXe]

I must admit, it's kind of odd to see you guys go from arguing about contradicting supposed spoiler information to somehow talking about banging Ashley, lol.