Masked Marauders - Skull Kid For Smash! Night of the Last Day.

[Nazyrus]

Majora Mask is literally the next icon from the series most marketed after the triforce, hylian shield and master sword.

 

[All Hail Me]

Majora Mask is literally the next icon from the series most marketed after the triforce, hylian shield and master sword.

And arguably the green tunic

 

[Demonfunds]

So after Skull Kid who do you think is next in line for a Zelda rep?
I'd say Impa or Tingle really they're both pretty iconic to Zelda as a whole to the point were they would feel just right.
Possibly Pig Gannon given of how iconic he is to top down Zelda's.
I think those are fairly realistic.

 

[GoodGrief741]

So after Skull Kid who do you think is next in line for a Zelda rep?
I'd say Impa or Tingle really they're both pretty iconic to Zelda as a whole to the point were they would feel just right.
Possibly Pig Gannon given of how iconic he is to top down Zelda's.
I think those are fairly realistic.

I think the obvious answers are Midna and Ghirahim. Maybe Vaati, I’ve been seeing more and more support building up.

 

[ActualGarbage]

So after Skull Kid who do you think is next in line for a Zelda rep?
I'd say Impa or Tingle really they're both pretty iconic to Zelda as a whole to the point were they would feel just right.
Possibly Pig Gannon given of how iconic he is to top down Zelda's.
I think those are fairly realistic.

I want to say all of nothing is next, but Impa and Ganon do feel like logical next steps, if said steps are taken.

 

[Mike Cometa]

And the sakurai hates Zelda theory

What is this theory about?

 

[The Legendary Beast]

After Skull Kid I'd like:
Impa
Pig Ganon
Midna
A Goron (Darunia perhaps?)
A Zora ( Princess Ruto?)
Hero's Shade echo


I don't really want Tingle lol.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

What is this theory about?

I believe the theory is that half of the Zelda characters are clones or semi-clones like Ganondorf, Young Link, Toon Link and the only unique Zelda characters we have are Link, Zelda, and Sheik. Zelda hasn't gotten a unique newcomer since Melee, so that's why some people think Sakurai has a dislike biased for Zelda's representation in the roster.

After Skull Kid I'd like:
Impa
Pig Ganon
Midna
A Goron (Darunia perhaps?)
A Zora ( Princess Ruto?)
Hero's Shade echo


I don't really want Tingle lol.

After Skull Kid, Ganon and Impa would be my next wanted Zelda reps as well. I also don't want Tingle in, especially over Skull Kid, Ganon, Impa, Midna, and Tetra. They all deserve to get in over him.

 

[Megadoomer]

What is this theory about?

The idea doesn't need much explaining; people think that Sakurai doesn't like Zelda, which leads to it not getting any proper newcomers since Melee. (and even then, the series' villain was made into a clone of an unrelated character and only recently started feeling like himself)

It seems unsubstantiated (Kirby hasn't gotten any newcomers since Brawl, and a vast majority of the content is from Super Star or earlier, but it doesn't mean that Sakurai hates Kirby), but it's unusual that Zelda's more-or-less been ignored on the roster front for about 17 years now. (especially when any of the Zelda assist trophies would make for good playable character choices)

 

[JoyStar]

Skull Kid is my favorite Zelda character of all time, I'll be over the moon (pun intended) happy if he gets into Smash Ultimate!

I know, right?
But, Skull Kid is only famous because of the ... mask, they say.

I think Majora's Mask on Skull Kid is the most iconic, and the one who grants more moveset potential, but I like Skull Kid with or without the mask.

I seem to remember a Skull Kid quote (can't remember if fan-made or from the game since I haven't yet beat MM or finished an LP) that fits this well:

"No one cared about me until I put on the mask."

 

[Deleted member]

I seem to remember a Skull Kid quote (can't remember if fan-made or from the game since I haven't yet beat MM or finished an LP) that fits this well:

"No one cared about me until I put on the mask."

You're thinking of the Bane quote in TDKR, which fits him very well, so no surprise people would use it for him.

"No one cared who i was until I put on the mask."

 

[cybersai]

There's a very real reason Zelda hasn't gotten newcomers after Melee:

Brawl was focused on getting many of the last big A-list Nintendo characters into Smash. Midna was a one-shot character, and Sakurai wanted to represent Toon Link in some form and thought that was good enough. Majora's Mask was 7 years old at the time, so even if Skull Kid was wanted by people at the time, I can understand why an almost decade old character wasn't considered back then.

Smash U: By now the last 3D Zelda game was 3 years old, and Skyward Sword was the lowest selling 3D Zelda. Even in the pre-Smash U speculation I knew Giraghim was never going to get in, I wasn't surprised he was an Assist. Other choices like Vaati, Tingle, etc. were highly unlikely for different reasons.


The difference with Ultimate is not only did Majora's Mask 3D come out in 2015 at the right time, but now Majora's Mask had enduring popularity for 18 years. Skull Kid managed to transcend "one-shot character" status, and he's remained the second most popular villain of the franchise after Ganondorf. It's true he may not get in this time either, but at least it's the best chance he ever had.

Lastly there is Impa, and remember prior to Ultimate the whole concept of echoes was barely established yet. Impa would make a fine Shiek echo, but I just don't think there's as much demand as other possible echo characters so it probably won't happen

 

[UserKev]

My Skull Kid hype is blown out the window. Halloween seems to be more in Geno's favor since his design is undeniably Halloweeny if you think about it. Skull Kid was so discussed, hyped and promoted next to Reggie's desk and to possibly see it all ignored? I don't know.

He has to be in.

 

[Louisacommie]

There's a very real reason Zelda hasn't gotten newcomers after Melee:

Brawl was focused on getting many of the last big A-list Nintendo characters into Smash. Midna was a one-shot character, and Sakurai wanted to represent Toon Link in some form and thought that was good enough. Majora's Mask was 7 years old at the time, so even if Skull Kid was wanted by people at the time, I can understand why an almost decade old character wasn't considered back then.

Smash U: By now the last 3D Zelda game was 3 years old, and Skyward Sword was the lowest selling 3D Zelda. Even in the pre-Smash U speculation I knew Giraghim was never going to get in, I wasn't surprised he was an Assist. Other choices like Vaati, Tingle, etc. were highly unlikely for different reasons.


The difference with Ultimate is not only did Majora's Mask 3D come out in 2015 at the right time, but now Majora's Mask had enduring popularity for 18 years. Skull Kid managed to transcend "one-shot character" status, and he's remained the second most popular villain of the franchise after Ganondorf. It's true he may not get in this time either, but at least it's the best chance he ever had.

Lastly there is Impa, and remember prior to Ultimate the whole concept of echoes was barely established yet. Impa would make a fine Shiek echo, but I just don't think there's as much demand as other possible echo characters so it probably won't happen

I blame twilight princess for sucking, the named goron characters are old
And our main zora character was a sick little boy

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I blame twilight princess for sucking, the named goron characters are old
And our main zora character was a sick little boy

I did like Queen Rutela though because of her design which, I think she's beautiful.

 

[JoyStar]

You're thinking of the Bane quote in TDKR, which fits him very well, so no surprise people would use it for him.

And that's what I get for not having seen The Dark Knight Rises, lol. It does fit Skull Kid a lot though!

I swear, they could make plushies of that adorable little imp and I'd want one.

 

[CommanderZaktan]

My Skull Kid hype is blown out the window. Halloween seems to be more in Geno's favor since his design is undeniably Halloweeny if you think about it. Skull Kid was so discussed, hyped and promoted next to Reggie's desk and to possibly see it all ignored? I don't know.

He has to be in.

Why not both in one trailer? Since they're puppets and had a thing with lost forests.

 

[OptimisticStrifer]

So after Skull Kid who do you think is next in line for a Zelda rep?
I'd say Impa or Tingle really they're both pretty iconic to Zelda as a whole to the point were they would feel just right.
Possibly Pig Gannon given of how iconic he is to top down Zelda's.
I think those are fairly realistic.

This is highly influenced by the fact that BOTW is only the second Zelda game I played; but I'd like to see the four champions in the style of Pokemon Trainer.

 

[PhantomShab]

What is this theory about?

Sakurai has consistently shown ignorance and apathy when it comes to Zelda stuff.

-Ganondorf.

-Never knew until after Smash 64 released that adult Link got his boomerang replaced with a bow.

-ReDead's trophy description in Melee says they're made out of magic and in Smash 4 it says they're made out of clay. Both of these are wrong. They're zombies.

-Melee being the last game where Zelda got a genuine unique newcomer.

-Ganondorf.

-Just about every other potential Zelda newcomer getting NEVER EVER'd.

-"There are actually multiple different Ganons. I know my Ganon Canon!"

-Speaking of Ganon...

-Ganondorf.

You get the idea.

Halloween seems to be more in Geno's favor since his design is undeniably Halloweeny if you think about it.

Skull Kid is a scarecrow looking prankster with a mask though.

 

[UserKev]

Why not both in one trailer? Since they're puppets and had a thing with lost forests.

This is what I hope happens now.

Skull Kid is a scarecrow looking prankster with a mask though.

I know Skull Kid looks Halloween. I was stating Geno looks to be the likeliest if him and Skull Kid aren't debuting in the same trailer.

 

[Xevious 1]

This is highly influenced by the fact that BOTW is only the second Zelda game I played; but I'd like to see the four champions in the style of Pokemon Trainer.

That or using the transformation masks, would be the best way to represent the different fantasy races of Zelda. I feel that is what the Zelda series is really missing character wise in Smash. They have these unique fantasy races that have cool designs and could have interesting movesets, but we don't get any of that.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Sakurai has consistently shown ignorance and apathy when it comes to Zelda stuff.

-Never knew until after Smash 64 released that adult Link got his boomerang replaced with a bow.

-ReDead's trophy description in Melee says they're made out of magic and in Smash 4 it says they're made out of clay. Both of these are wrong. They're zombies.

-"There are actually multiple different Ganons. I know my Ganon Canon!"

Huh? Link didn’t have a bow in 64.

Sakurai probably doesn’t write trophy descriptions either, certainly not the English language ones.

As for the Ganon Canon quote, I fail to see how that’s proof of hatred?

 

[Demonfunds]

I believe the theory is that half of the Zelda characters are clones or semi-clones like Ganondorf, Young Link, Toon Link and the only unique Zelda characters we have are Link, Zelda, and Sheik. Zelda hasn't gotten a unique newcomer since Melee, so that's why some people think Sakurai has a dislike biased for Zelda's representation in the roster.



After Skull Kid, Ganon and Impa would be my next wanted Zelda reps as well. I also don't want Tingle in, especially over Skull Kid, Ganon, Impa, Midna, and Tetra. They all deserve to get in over him.

Well I wasn't stating my most wanted zelda reps, I was trying to think who made the most sense realistically, I came to the conclusion of tingle given that he's a recurring character which helps him out, and well he was given his own spinoff game so yeah.
But yeah I do agree other characters should get in before him.

 

[The Legendary Beast]

I really don't believe that Sakurai has a biased against The Legend of Zelda series. It's a massive shame that Ganondorf was made into a clone however. At least he finally gave him sword attacks .....even though OOT Ganondorf didn't actually use a sword......

It's the thought that counts, Sakurai did try to give him something a bit more in character, I'll take those sword attacks any day over him kicking and elbowing. However yes, Zelda definitely could do with another unique newcomer. It's been so long for such a popular franchise with so many memorable characters to go without a newcomer. Mario got Rosalina and Luma AND Bowser Jr. in Smash 4 and in Ultimate Mario get's Daisy. Come on, throw Zelda a bone.

 

[ActualGarbage]

Come on, throw Zelda a bone.

A skull specifically.

 

[JoyStar]

A skull specifically.

Ha ha, good one!

Also I'm doing a Skull Kid tribute video for the anniversary of Majora's Mask in the US (October 26th), so having a reveal trailer before then would help give more clip variety, lol.

 

[Demonfunds]

Ha ha, good one!

Also I'm doing a Skull Kid tribute video for the anniversary of Majora's Mask in the US (October 26th), so having a reveal trailer before then would help give more clip variety, lol.

Be sure to share it here when you're done, I'd love to see how it turns out.

 

[MajoraMoon]

Ha ha, good one!

Also I'm doing a Skull Kid tribute video for the anniversary of Majora's Mask in the US (October 26th), so having a reveal trailer before then would help give more clip variety, lol.

Ooooh! Good Luck!

 

[JoyStar]

Be sure to share it here when you're done, I'd love to see how it turns out.

I actually have a preview video! The full one will probably be on my other channel because 1. that one has more subs and 2. a friend of mine is going to do some Majora dialogue for this part in the middle of the song where there's no lyrics, she like jumped at the chance when I asked her.

 

[Gyrom8]

I don't think that Sakurai's biased against Zelda or anything: it's got a great selection of stages, with three new additions in Smash 4. Item, Assist Trophy and music wise, it's also done pretty well. It is definitely lacking in the character front, though. Ganondorf's a weird case, as if he hadn't been a Falcon clone he wouldn't have been in Melee at all. Maybe it would have been better if they saved him for Brawl and spent time developing a more unique moveset. Now though, it's too late: Sakurai isn't going to risk alienating fans of Ganondorf's playstyle by giving him a complete overhaul. Wish they'd at least give him a projectile so we could do energy ball tennis. And a unique victory theme.

But yeah, a Zelda newcomer would really be appreciated. A scarecrow duckfaced newcomer.

 

[MajoraMoon]

I actually have a preview video! The full one will probably be on my other channel because 1. that one has more subs and 2. a friend of mine is going to do some Majora dialogue for this part in the middle of the song where there's no lyrics, she like jumped at the chance when I asked her.

Very nice. My depiction of Majora (not Skull Kid) is a God (or Goddess) of Space who has a sense of humor and hates the three goddesses but has some respect for Hylia. Looking forward to that dialogue.

 

[JoyStar]

Very nice. My depiction of Majora (not Skull Kid) is a God (or Goddess) of Space who has a sense of humor and hates the three goddesses but has some respect for Hylia. Looking forward to that dialogue.

Considering how space-y her final battle is in terms of the color scheme of the environment, and Termina is a parallel world to Hyrule basically, I like that idea that she's a counterpart to the Goddesses of Hyrule.

 

[MajoraMoon]

Considering how space-y her final battle is in terms of the color scheme of the environment, and Termina is a parallel world to Hyrule basically, I like that idea that she's a counterpart to the Goddesses of Hyrule.

If there is a goddess of time. There is always a God or Goddess of Space that is my logic. Also, find it interesting you are interpreting Majora as a Goddess. I'm curious to seeing how that goes.

 

[Waluigi is not getting in]

Wait Majora's Mask's anniversary is October 26? The circumstances are perfect for a reveal what the hell.

Edit: Wait, that's for the American release. Do they even celebrate that? Was it already celebrated this year.

 

[MajoraMoon]

Wait Majora's Mask's anniversary is October 26? The circumstances are perfect for a reveal what the hell.

I'm thinking October 16th. That seems to be the most popular date for this smash direct I keep hearing about.

 

[AnOkayDM]

Wait Majora's Mask's anniversary is October 26? The circumstances are perfect for a reveal what the hell.

Edit: Wait, that's for the American release. Do they even celebrate that? Was it already celebrated this year.

I don't think they've ever really based a reveal on an anniversary, much as the fans seem to want them to. It could happen though!

 

[All Hail Me]

I actually have a preview video! The full one will probably be on my other channel because 1. that one has more subs and 2. a friend of mine is going to do some Majora dialogue for this part in the middle of the song where there's no lyrics, she like jumped at the chance when I asked her.

Looks like it’ll l be great, I’m sure you know this already, but make sure the video isn’t copyrighted.

 

[JoyStar]

If there is a goddess of time. There is always a God or Goddess of Space that is my logic. Also, find it interesting you are interpreting Majora as a Goddess. I'm curious to seeing how that goes.

To be honest, initially I just interpreted Majora as whatever, but the Majora Opera sold me on the idea of Majora being female. Also I found out recently there was this ancient culture in Brazil that made masks, the culture was called the Marajora, and they saw the moon as being associated with the female gender so females were most present in their iconography. So yeah.

I don't think they've ever really based a reveal on an anniversary, much as the fans seem to want them to. It could happen though!

I don't think they have either, but it would be awesomely fitting to reveal Skull Kid this month. What with the creepiness and Halloween-ness.

 

[Luigifan18]

To be honest, initially I just interpreted Majora as whatever, but the Majora Opera sold me on the idea of Majora being female. Also I found out recently there was this ancient culture in Brazil that made masks, the culture was called the Marajora, and they saw the moon as being associated with the female gender so females were most present in their iconography. So yeah.

Ever heard of Gremory from the Ars Goetia?

 

[Crap-Zapper]

JoyStar please edit your post and refrain from double posting, as it is against the rules.