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I think there's something worth talking about here. Dee and his fandom have a terrible reputation due to botters, toxicity, salt, and trolling, and this hurt Dee's popularity a solid deal, as several people have turned against him for explicitly that reason, and even ardent Dee supporters are disappointed in those responsible. Now, I wouldn't judge a character just because some of his fans are petty - that just encourages false-flagging and is also unfair towards the vast majority of fans that aren't toxic - but plenty of people do precisely that, and it's tough to deny that Dee fans have been responsible for more toxic behavior than most others.Dismiss as in reddit is stoopid with bad taste and I'm salty
One bad egg does spoil the whole bunch after all.I think there's something worth talking about here. Dee and his fandom have a terrible reputation due to botters, toxicity, salt, and trolling, and this hurt Dee's popularity a solid deal, as several people have turned against him for explicitly that reason, and even ardent Dee supporters are disappointed in those responsible. Now, I wouldn't judge a character just because some of his fans are petty - that just encourages false-flagging and is also unfair towards the vast majority of fans that aren't toxic - but plenty of people do precisely that, and it's tough to deny that Dee fans have been responsible for more toxic behavior than most others.
That's not to say that you're toxic or that you don't have the right to be salty (frankly, I'm pretty sure you were just joking, just wanted to mention this here anyway), but I think that you might want to keep some perspective and understand that whether you like it or not, your words and actions reflect on the demographics under which you fall - insulting another community might not be the most prudent course of action if you're trying to support this character.
After all, it's not unreasonable to think that this kind of toxicity might have turned off the seven people that would have allowed Dee to beat Lloyd,
Skull Kid and Bandana Dee are all I need.Vomits this out for all you to see http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/432991643
What do you think, fellas?
The run down is:
Newcomers; Geno, Incineroar, Lip, Bandanna Dee, Skull Kid, Crash Bandicoot, Steve
Echoes; Ken, Shadow, Impa, Octoling, Medusa
I don't think BWD's fans are toxic at all, they might have a few rotten apples like every fandom does, but I think the main problem with them is that a lot of people don't understand the character at all. I myself was a BWD hater back in the days of the Smash ballot and I didn't understand at all why he had such a huge following, but when I finally decided to look into his character I changed my mind about him I learned to make gather better judgements before bashing a character so carelessly.I think there's something worth talking about here. Dee and his fandom have a terrible reputation due to botters, toxicity, salt, and trolling, and this hurt Dee's popularity a solid deal, as several people have turned against him for explicitly that reason, and even ardent Dee supporters are disappointed in those responsible. Now, I wouldn't judge a character just because some of his fans are petty - that just encourages false-flagging and is also unfair towards the vast majority of fans that aren't toxic - but plenty of people do precisely that, and it's tough to deny that Dee fans have been responsible for more toxic behavior than most others.
That's not to say that you're toxic or that you don't have the right to be salty (frankly, I'm pretty sure you were just joking, just wanted to mention this here anyway), but I think that you might want to keep some perspective and understand that whether you like it or not, your words and actions reflect on the demographics under which you fall - insulting another community might not be the most prudent course of action if you're trying to support this character.
After all, it's not unreasonable to think that this kind of toxicity might have turned off the seven people that would have allowed Dee to beat Lloyd,
As I said in my comment, I don't think they are either - but some people will inevitably judge the fandom at large by the actions of a few, and being aware of that fact when representing the fandom helps prevent potential toxicity or prejudice down the road.I don't think BWD's fans are toxic at all, they might have a few rotten apples like every fandom does, but I think the main problem with them is that a lot of people don't understand the character at all. I myself was a BWD hater back in the days of the Smash ballot and I didn't understand at all why he had such a huge following, but when I finally decided to look into his character I changed my mind about him I learned to make gather better judgements before bashing a character so carelessly.
Sounds too good to be true, Impa and Skull Kid, perfectionVomits this out for all you to see http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/432991643
What do you think, fellas?
The run down is:
Newcomers; Geno, Incineroar, Lip, Bandanna Dee, Skull Kid, Crash Bandicoot, Steve
Echoes; Ken, Shadow, Impa, Octoling, Medusa
*replaces Lip with Isaac* aaaand fixed…Vomits this out for all you to see http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/432991643
What do you think, fellas?
The run down is:
Newcomers; Geno, Incineroar, Lip, Bandanna Dee, Skull Kid, Crash Bandicoot, Steve
Echoes; Ken, Shadow, Impa, Octoling, Medusa
A pretty good roster, with some room for improvement.Vomits this out for all you to see http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/432991643
What do you think, fellas?
The run down is:
Newcomers; Geno, Incineroar, Lip, Bandanna Dee, Skull Kid, Crash Bandicoot, Steve
Echoes; Ken, Shadow, Impa, Octoling, Medusa
Never believe a leak that pretends to know the reasoning behind why characters were included, Sakurai would literally have to sit down and tell this guy everything for him to know about it. I can assure you even most of the developers don't know why Sakurai has done this or that, they just have to do their job.Vomits this out for all you to see http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/432991643
What do you think, fellas?
The run down is:
Newcomers; Geno, Incineroar, Lip, Bandanna Dee, Skull Kid, Crash Bandicoot, Steve
Echoes; Ken, Shadow, Impa, Octoling, Medusa
From what I gathered it was people assuming that since a series hasn't gotten more than one song on the Smash website, that that meant that any series with music on the site now would not get a newcomer since every newcomer gets their music on the website after their reveal. Since the latest was a Pokemon track, the music theory is most likely dead since Incineroar is, I guess, "a lock and for sure".Skull Kid
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I believe are all going to be in the base roster based on evidence (including tin foil hat evidence) Yeah these are all characters I want (mainly because I gravitate towards popular characters), so I am biased, but I think I have a good reason to believe that they are all in.
Also can someone explain what the music theory was?
Hopefully if we get Crash as DLC down the road which, I'm certain is going to happen as well, I hope we get Spyro too.I don't believe Crash will be on the base roster, nor the Octolings.
Crash will almost certainly be DLC though!
Sonic wasn´t added at the end of the game, if you go to the smash ultimate official site Sonic is number 39 which goes before ROB and King Dedede who had a big role in SSE so I think that the reason why he appear at the end of the story is because they wanted to make the most epic reveal possible for one of the most hype characters in Smash historyWolf, Toon Link, and Jigglypuff weren't in SsE because they were added close to the end of development. That's also why Sonic's role was so small
The game was literally delayed to add Sonic because he wasn't on the original roster. The character numbers are listed in order of reveal, not in order of having been added.Sonic wasn´t added at the end of the game, if you go to the smash ultimate official site Sonic is number 39 which goes before ROB and King Dedede who had a big role in SSE so I think that the reason why he appear at the end of the story is because they wanted to make the most epic reveal possible for one of the most hype characters in Smash history
The ordering on the website I'm pretty sure is based on order the characters were revealed. Not when they were physically added to the gameSonic wasn´t added at the end of the game, if you go to the smash ultimate official site Sonic is number 39 which goes before ROB and King Dedede who had a big role in SSE so I think that the reason why he appear at the end of the story is because they wanted to make the most epic reveal possible for one of the most hype characters in Smash history
The picture in the tweet is the moonSo Sakurai said the pace of character reveals is going to slow down a lot now, so expecting a bunch more is crazy.
For some reason in the replies to the tweet I'm seeing a lot of people saying he's hinting at Skull Kid in it?
Here's the tweet Source Gaming made, I can't really figure out how it would hint towards Skull Kid unfortunately.
That's true, but it wasn't Sakurai who made the tweet or anything, it was a picture Source Gaming used to accompany it.The picture in the tweet is the moon
Doesn't really matter, people see Moon, they talk Skull KidThat's true, but it wasn't Sakurai who made the tweet or anything, it was a picture Source Gaming used to accompany it.
If you like the Deku Curse and Laser, that's you. They aren't my thing. Skull Kid's Down B function would look completely different and the boomerang ocarina is actually a form of playful "I can do it, to." mockery to Link's.So you gave him ZSS's down B and a boomerang like the three Links and K. Rool, but some of his actual moves are overused and predictable?
Shantae is highly unlikely. And I'm really starting to doubt Isaac lately due to the lack of newcomers left. Geno is only possible due to the Mii outfit last time and Sakurai wanting him and the Square rep rumor from Vergeben.Skull Kid
Isaac
Shantae
Geno
I believe are all going to be in the base roster based on evidence (including tin foil hat evidence) Yeah these are all characters I want (mainly because I gravitate towards popular characters), so I am biased, but I think I have a good reason to believe that they are all in.
Also can someone explain what the music theory was?
To be fair, did anyone really expect a BUNCH of new newcomers at this point? We're almost two months from launch at this point. I just expect that last Smash Direct in, let's say, Novemeber. Then launch and the wait for DLC begins. My biggest take away from all this is that I'm shocked the game is "still being developed". I'd imagine they'd basically be done since we're so close to launch.So Sakurai said the pace of character reveals is going to slow down a lot now, so expecting a bunch more is crazy.
For some reason in the replies to the tweet I'm seeing a lot of people saying he's hinting at Skull Kid in it?
Here's the tweet Source Gaming made, I can't really figure out how it would hint towards Skull Kid unfortunately.
The wait for the DLC will be far less painful because we will have our hands on this wonderful game to pass the time.To be fair, did anyone really expect a BUNCH of new newcomers at this point? We're almost two months from launch at this point. I just expect that last Smash Direct in, let's say, Novemeber. Then launch and the wait for DLC begins. My biggest take away from all this is that I'm shocked the game is "still being developed". I'd imagine they'd basically be done since we're so close to launch.
Call me crazy, but I predict the smash direct is happening on October. The perfect month for the announcement of Skull Kid. And imagine how hilarious it would be if we also got OCTOlings as an echo fighter at OCTOberTo be fair, did anyone really expect a BUNCH of new newcomers at this point? We're almost two months from launch at this point. I just expect that last Smash Direct in, let's say, Novemeber. Then launch and the wait for DLC begins. My biggest take away from all this is that I'm shocked the game is "still being developed". I'd imagine they'd basically be done since we're so close to launch.
And it would go in line with sakurais statement about the pacing of the character reveals, I believe he meant dont expect a reveal every month, perhaps there isn't a enough content or time for 2 smash directs up until now and release, so he is just preparing us for the painful month that is November, but this October direct will be crazy, revealing all remaining characters in a huge blowout while revealing the last five stages and talking about spirits and some other nitty gritty details about the game.Call me crazy, but I predict the smash direct is happening on October. The perfect month for the announcement of Skull Kid. And imagine how hilarious it would be if we also got OCTOlings as an echo fighter at OCTOber