Link to original post: [drupal=2099]Marth Boards are Stuck-up? [/drupal]
So, for months now, perhaps over a year, the Marth Boards have always had this stigma of being elitist stuck-up pricks. I've always wondered exactly where people are getting this from. Many people have always viewed us as the most productive board that knows how to get **** done. I think it can date back to mid-2008 where Emblem Lord (for those who don't know, the one who pretty much made Marth's basic metagame) declared us as an elitist board.
This was a well accepted change among the Marth users; isolate the noob talk to the Q&A thread and let the top level discussion flourish amongst the rest of the board. This led to users being harsh on new players who would make a thread asking a question when it could have easily gone somewhere else or it has been answered in one of our numerous guides on the boards. This also led users to flame the **** out of people if they would continually spread ignorance in the board. Ignorance in the Marth community = bad.
Match-up discussions. We were the first board to complete every character. People told us we were going too fast and there was no way the discussions could have been complete. Well, let me lay down the facts here. In '08 we had NUMEROUS very smart and very active Marth users. A lot of whom don't really post here anymore and just lurk/quit, such as 3xswords, Dr peepee, Fishkeeper Timmay!, Ulevo, and Emblem Lord among others. We were able to invite other character boards to discuss each match with us and get a decent amount of pages for each thread. We even had a few discussions go for a day and we were done. I think even once we did two in a day. And hey, you can look at other character boards' discussions and more often than not see maybe 2 or 3 posts a day in each discussion. Not exactly a hive of activity tbh. Marth boards get **** done. What other boards could do in a week we could knock out in a day. Call that egotistical if you want, but it was true. I mean if we're discussing Meta Knight or Snake sure, they have options and we need time to discuss them. But if we're talking about characters like Ness or even Captain Falcon... **** outta here. You guys need a week for this?
We pride ourselves on being knowledgeable. We don't entertain fluff and any of that nonsense, we're very direct and to the point. If we tell you your character can't do **** if Marth attacks and zones properly, we're not just pulling this out of our *****. We're not insulting your character (and I KNOW a lot of you think this). This is a simple game. This is a simple game that relies on space control and zoning. If your character can't compete by using those two things vs Marth, then you have to bait. But if all you have is baiting then don't try and tell us it's a close match up -___- Your character can either deal with zoning/stage control or they can't. And if they can't, your character is garbage. It's not an insult, it's just laying down facts. (btw, whoever hasn't I encourage you to read this thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=236705)
Oh, and then there's the fact that Marth ruled the world for 7 years and now he doesn't. So people can take their pot shots at him. But they still remember his dominance and continue to hate him for it. So Marth boards have guilty by association. Honestly, even if we were the nicest board out there and the most noob-friendly we'd still be hated.
Call us elitist pricks or whatever you want, but you can look at our accomplishments and our organization. Our guides, which were pumped out (mostly in 08) by multiple people are REALLY good ****. They aren't just "how to play marth guides" but deeper aspects of Brawl and how they apply to Marth.
I'm interested to hear your thoughts in this, haters especially.
So, for months now, perhaps over a year, the Marth Boards have always had this stigma of being elitist stuck-up pricks. I've always wondered exactly where people are getting this from. Many people have always viewed us as the most productive board that knows how to get **** done. I think it can date back to mid-2008 where Emblem Lord (for those who don't know, the one who pretty much made Marth's basic metagame) declared us as an elitist board.
This was a well accepted change among the Marth users; isolate the noob talk to the Q&A thread and let the top level discussion flourish amongst the rest of the board. This led to users being harsh on new players who would make a thread asking a question when it could have easily gone somewhere else or it has been answered in one of our numerous guides on the boards. This also led users to flame the **** out of people if they would continually spread ignorance in the board. Ignorance in the Marth community = bad.
Match-up discussions. We were the first board to complete every character. People told us we were going too fast and there was no way the discussions could have been complete. Well, let me lay down the facts here. In '08 we had NUMEROUS very smart and very active Marth users. A lot of whom don't really post here anymore and just lurk/quit, such as 3xswords, Dr peepee, Fishkeeper Timmay!, Ulevo, and Emblem Lord among others. We were able to invite other character boards to discuss each match with us and get a decent amount of pages for each thread. We even had a few discussions go for a day and we were done. I think even once we did two in a day. And hey, you can look at other character boards' discussions and more often than not see maybe 2 or 3 posts a day in each discussion. Not exactly a hive of activity tbh. Marth boards get **** done. What other boards could do in a week we could knock out in a day. Call that egotistical if you want, but it was true. I mean if we're discussing Meta Knight or Snake sure, they have options and we need time to discuss them. But if we're talking about characters like Ness or even Captain Falcon... **** outta here. You guys need a week for this?
We pride ourselves on being knowledgeable. We don't entertain fluff and any of that nonsense, we're very direct and to the point. If we tell you your character can't do **** if Marth attacks and zones properly, we're not just pulling this out of our *****. We're not insulting your character (and I KNOW a lot of you think this). This is a simple game. This is a simple game that relies on space control and zoning. If your character can't compete by using those two things vs Marth, then you have to bait. But if all you have is baiting then don't try and tell us it's a close match up -___- Your character can either deal with zoning/stage control or they can't. And if they can't, your character is garbage. It's not an insult, it's just laying down facts. (btw, whoever hasn't I encourage you to read this thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=236705)
Oh, and then there's the fact that Marth ruled the world for 7 years and now he doesn't. So people can take their pot shots at him. But they still remember his dominance and continue to hate him for it. So Marth boards have guilty by association. Honestly, even if we were the nicest board out there and the most noob-friendly we'd still be hated.
Call us elitist pricks or whatever you want, but you can look at our accomplishments and our organization. Our guides, which were pumped out (mostly in 08) by multiple people are REALLY good ****. They aren't just "how to play marth guides" but deeper aspects of Brawl and how they apply to Marth.
I'm interested to hear your thoughts in this, haters especially.
) can beat Tyrant because he does BS theorycraft on the Marth boards and QQs about how nobody should play anything except MK? No. He plays the game with determination to improve and become a good player. As a result he can win in a match-up you call "unwinnable".
