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Fire! · Oct 30, 2008

-Makes a semi-WoP
-Can lead to a stutter-stepped F-Smash.

BoTastic! · Oct 30, 2008

Bair>Reverse Usmash
Bair>Shutter stepped Fsmash
Bair>Bair>Bair
Bair>Uair or Uair>Bair
Bair>Nair

Bair is too good.

Matador · Oct 30, 2008

BO X7 said:
Bair>Reverse Usmash
Bair>Shutter stepped Fsmash
Bair>Bair>Bair
Bair>Uair or Uair>Bair
Bair>Nair

Bair is too good.

Yea..that's right...Bo's so epic he can pull 3 Bairs in one SH where many can't even do 2.

BoTastic! · Oct 30, 2008

Matador said:
Yea..that's right...Bo's so epic he can pull 3 Bairs in one SH where many can't even do 2.

lol i mean the Bair semi WoP

HeroMystic · Oct 30, 2008

Matador said:
Yea..that's right...Bo's so epic he can pull 3 Bairs in one SH where many can't even do 2.

He has sexy stache, man. Just too hawt.

hippiedude92 · Oct 30, 2008

Surprisely, Dk's bair outranges and is quicker than mario's bair from what i heard lol.. could be wrong tho.

BoTastic! · Oct 30, 2008

hippiedude92 said:
Surprisely, Dk's bair outranges and is quicker than mario's bair from what i heard lol.. could be wrong tho.

Mario's and DK's Bair trade hits, and I don't think it outranges.

Monk/Honkey/Banana · Oct 31, 2008

DK's Bair Outranges cause DK has long sexy monkey legs...Mario has short sexy italian legs...

SkylerOcon · Nov 2, 2008

Alright, somebody summarize this one.

Matt07 · Nov 3, 2008

I used information out of this thread too come up with the summary, credit goes to the original posters.

Pros
+Lovely range.
+Lovely knockback.
+Complimets every move in Mario's arsenal nicely.
+ Good damage.
+ Mario's strongest Aerial (ties with fully connected D-air and beneath the Sweetspotted F-air)
+ Decent spacer
+Can be used twice in a SH
+Low ending lag
+B-air is a good Reversed Aerial Rush move.
+B-air can lead into the following;
Bair>Reverse Usmash
Bair>Shutter stepped Fsmash
Bair>Bair>Bair
Bair>Uair or Uair>Bair
Bair>Nair

Cons
-Easily read
-Easily powershielded
-Easily shield grabbed

Monk/Honkey/Banana · Nov 3, 2008

Dtilt please

cHooKay · Nov 3, 2008

Monk you're really making me curious. I'm really interested in what you have to say about the dtilt.

LOL, go for the laughs...Dtilt FTW

Matt07 · Nov 3, 2008

Monk abuses dtilt, I here it helps it helps his already broken ledge guard game.

BoTastic! · Nov 4, 2008

btw monk, your ledge game helped me out a bunch in my last tourney.

hippiedude92 · Nov 4, 2008

I wantz dtilt pwning vidz nowz. So like dtilt is the discussion now?

SkylerOcon · Nov 4, 2008

Changed to Dtilt.

So, now we pretty much try to find uses for it?

Matt07 · Nov 4, 2008

Pros
+It can hit under shields.
+Can usually follow up with a fsmash, if the opponent is at high percents.

Cons
-Little knockback.
-Little damage.
-Long start up/ending frames.
-Can get severly punished if you miss.
-It's a broken move and banned in tournaments.

BoTastic! · Nov 4, 2008

Pros
+hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm (Vacant)

Cons
-There is no pros
-It sucks
-Its garbage
-Useless
-Your better off with jabs

Monk/Honkey/Banana · Nov 4, 2008

Dtilt

Pros
-It starts with the letter D
-It's a tilt
-It is the downward directional
-This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4tktxmnHf0
-Obama is up by 100 points currently....and he uses Dtilt

Cons
-Not enough time in matches to perform to fullest extent

SkylerOcon · Nov 4, 2008

Pros:

+ Nobody will expect it. Imagine this: A Meta-Knight is approaching your Mario. He's trying to mindgame you. Suddenly, DTILT! Meta-Knight gets so psyched out that you actually used it that he thinks your insane and forfeits the match out of fear.

Cons:

- Other than paranoid MKs, this attack has no real use.
- It sucks
- Badly
- Seriously, don't use it
- Please, that Ike is about to Fsmash
- DUDE, NO!
- Told you.
- Lolikefsmashed.

Matador · Nov 4, 2008

SkylerOcon said:
Pros:

+ Nobody will expect it. Imagine this: A Meta-Knight is approaching your Mario. He's trying to mindgame you. Suddenly, DTILT! Meta-Knight gets so psyched out that you actually used it that he thinks your insane and forfeits the match out of fear.

Cons:

- Other than paranoid MKs, this attack has no real use.
- It sucks
- Badly
- Seriously, don't use it
- Please, that Ike is about to Fsmash
- DUDE, NO!
- Told you.
- Lolikefsmashed.

lmao

Skip this one. It has no purpose.

HeroMystic · Nov 4, 2008

Pros:

+It's the same as it was in Melee.
+It sucks so much that if we complain about it it'll be better in SSB4.

Cons:

-It was better in Melee.
-It still sucks.

Judge Judy · Nov 4, 2008

Pros:

+Medicore juggling tilt

+Hitbox hugs the floor so it can occasionally hit under a sheild or stop another atk that hugs the ground

Cons:

-Poor startup and ending lag

-Only juggles well at very, very specific percents

SkylerOcon · Nov 4, 2008

Being serious when discussing the Dtilt is hereby banned in this thread.

SRSLY.

Now lets discuss how ridiculously broken it is.

Jimbo_G · Nov 4, 2008

Although they've been EXTREMELY rare circumstances, I have been able to OCCASIONALLY combo a d-tilt into an up-smash at an undetermined high percentage using the "pop" in the air it causes. However, almost all of them were flukes due to my opponent being confused as to how I just popped him in the air right above my head, which in turn delayed his reaction.

Judge Judy · Nov 4, 2008

It can actually juggle but it's hard to really find an opportunity to use it since it has an odd hitbox and low knockback that is only ideal around very specific percents, at best you can get an free Up B or Ftilt but even that I'm not positive on.

Kanzaki · Nov 4, 2008

You people are silly, Mario doesn't have a d.tilt.

Monk/Honkey/Banana · Nov 5, 2008

My post has been the most intelligent thing on this topic...come on folks

Matt07 · Nov 5, 2008

True, and if you combine your's uses with down tilt, and SkylerOcon's Mario will own Metaknight's :psycho:

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Does down tilt even K.O at 999%?

Famous · Nov 5, 2008

Found something out...I played an olimar and he was trying to recover low to the ledge...I Dtilt to attempt to ledgeguard, the Dtilt knocks him up high enough for me to jab so I jab...The jab puts Olimar in a position to be Dtillted again... He was around 20% I racked up to 45-50% Doing this combo. Dtilt-Jab works wonders near the ledge, especially when the opponent has no jumps.

Ray/Boshi · Nov 5, 2008

Very good move. Same range as Ftilt. Compliments jabs nicely. Higher % you can possibly get a smash in. Just be creative with it on how you decide to follow up afterwards. Just cause it's Mario's worst move doesnt mean it's worthless and has no uses.

Judge Judy · Nov 5, 2008

Matt07 said:
Does down tilt even K.O at 999%?

Yes, it starts KOing at some ridiculous percent like 300 or 400 or something.

Ray/Boshi said:
Very good move. Same range as Ftilt. Compliments jabs nicely. Higher % you can possibly get a smash in. Just be creative with it on how you decide to follow up afterwards. Just cause it's Mario's worst move doesnt mean it's worthless and has no uses.

QFT

Dory · Nov 5, 2008

BO X7 said:
Pros
+hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm (Vacant)

Cons
-There is no pros
-It sucks
-Its garbage
-Useless
-Your better off with jabs

100% agree... i rarely use his dtilt, but other people do use it cause its just their play style. =)

cHooKay · Nov 5, 2008

Hmm so... yeah. Worst move...

The only effective instances as to when the dtilt was effective was during jab fakes, and chracters, especially tall characters, who shields are exposed undernneath them.
And when I randomly input the dtilt on accident, and by some miracle, it actually works.

I don't know, I use it randomly, more so as a fakeout tactic like a feint...sometimes it works, most of the time it doesn't.

Obama uses the dtilt Monk????? Heahahahaha, he owned the political competition with his dtilt prowess...

hippiedude92 · Nov 5, 2008

You guys are ****ing hilarious. The only pro and set up is doing a NairFF to a dtilt (instead of a dsmash) then follow up with a utilts. The cons... too many named it lmfao

Mario_ 101 · Nov 5, 2008

i use d tilt for d tilt-> d smash when i accidently d tilt. and yeah cHooKay is right. its too hard to setup and just isn't worth it.

viparagon · Nov 5, 2008

yeah its only use is on the edge. sometimes just when My opponent is on the edge, i dtilt. since they are like "WOA MARIO HAS DTILT?" its usually enough to get a free fsmash in. or you could just dsmash...

Judge Judy · Nov 5, 2008

I stopped Olimar's Dsmash several times the other day with Dtilt, I knew Olimar had low priority but I was still like wow.

fromundaman · Nov 6, 2008

Judge Judy said:
I stopped Olimar's Dsmash several times the other day with Dtilt, I knew Olimar had low priority but I was still like wow.

Was it against a white pikmin? If not, then wow...

Judge Judy · Nov 6, 2008

fromundaman said:
Was it against a white pikmin? If not, then wow...

I think it was a yellow one and another time a blue one.

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