Coolwhip
Smash Champion
Hey guys look. A new marry-o has join us. Welcome aboard, Cezz.
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Mario Boards: General Discussion
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Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
I personally dont use b sticking, but im not really the one to come to for control advice, i mean, I press X to use my special attacks lol.
Jimmyfosho
Smash Hero
I use Y to grab and I turn off tapjump
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Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
X spec da bess! I also have B set to jump and tap jump off.
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B set to jump is interesting and didn't occur to me, though I find that the Y button is perfectly sufficient for reaching both the A and the X button at the same time, so I use that as my jump button.
Actually, no...I play claw anyways, lol.Im default...all the way to tap-jump on...
In that regard, I'm far from default. Sorta, kinda...
DtJ XeroXen
The biggest fraud
I play default. It's the best configuration anyway. :/
Coolwhip
Smash Champion
How i use my Gc controller.......?
Everything default but the tap jump button. C-stick is best for mario combos for most ppl that didn't know.
Everything default but the tap jump button. C-stick is best for mario combos for most ppl that didn't know.
- Theelitebrawler -
Smash Apprentice
Hey everyone! I actually am not new to the smash community, I have been on Aib since 09 so I know a lot of people actually so just hit me up.
Oh and I play default, yeah I use C stick. I agree its best for combos Imo.
Oh and I play default, yeah I use C stick. I agree its best for combos Imo.
Coolwhip
Smash Champion
haha, My homie teb. Welcome aboard.....again. lol
Teb's mario is REALLY good btw.
Teb's mario is REALLY good btw.
- Theelitebrawler -
Smash Apprentice
Haha thanks man your Mario is **** aswell 
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Cezz624
Smash Apprentice
Ah, ok, I tested some configurations and I have to agree, X for specials is pretty good, but with tap jump off, it's a little hard to move Mario while throwing fireballs. And I tried B sticking, it makes Mario's cape glide on and off stage easier, and when Mario capes in air, he gets to move backwards while facing forward, but other than that, it's not very useful. I am just going to stick to the default controls. And thanks for the friendly welcome Coolwhip, happy to be here!
- Theelitebrawler -
Smash Apprentice
Ah Cool another Mario main from Cali haha.
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
X to specials. It's the only way to play. I don't know how you guys can play with tap jump on though. I can't stand it on any character.
JuxtaposeX
Smash Lord
X for specials is godlike, but I don't use it. Too lazy to get used to it, even though it'll probably only take 4-5 games.
Kanzaki
Smash Champion
I play with a Tatsunoko vs Capcom arcade stick.
JuxtaposeX
Smash Lord
NP.
Stealing Mario tricks from Matador on Wifi :D
Stealing Mario tricks from Matador on Wifi :D
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
Mine died
I wish people still played that game, but I guess so long as I still have MVC3 I'll be all right.
steep
Smash Lord
I use Y for special, and R for Jump, and tap jump off. Y is really nice for SH Fireballs. And R to jump is awesome for OOS options. I also can't stand tap jump.
JuxtaposeX
Smash Lord
GGs Matador, I feel like I get much better as a player every time i play against you 
My internet is being laggy as hell :/
My internet is being laggy as hell :/
I figured that was you...couldn't remember whose tag that was, lol.
Yeah, ggs definitely. I remember you saying at one point that you don't like Mario dittos very much, so I decided to bring out my loltastic secondaries so you wouldn't get bored.
My MK is beyond words...
@ everyone: How do you upB OOS without tap jump? That's prolly the main reason Xero leaves it on, lol.
Yeah, ggs definitely. I remember you saying at one point that you don't like Mario dittos very much, so I decided to bring out my loltastic secondaries so you wouldn't get bored.
My MK is beyond words...
@ everyone: How do you upB OOS without tap jump? That's prolly the main reason Xero leaves it on, lol.
JuxtaposeX
Smash Lord
Your MK is...... godly
Slide your finger from Y -> X(set to special) to upb OoS without tapjump on
That's why I should have it done
Slide your finger from Y -> X(set to special) to upb OoS without tapjump on
That's why I should have it done
- Theelitebrawler -
Smash Apprentice
Ah you guys played friendlies? Niceeee
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
My control set is due to playing yoshi, I just am used to it so i use it on everyone.
Tap jump off is almost 100% necessary as, unless you practice at it, yoshi will DJ cancel into egg toss this way when you try to save his jump. B and X are switch not only for more playability, but due to the fact that it makes DR easier. All you have to do is flick your thumb down across Y > B > Down C and you can DR as that input is Jump > Double Jump > Attack and is needed to all be inputted within 7 frames. Most Yoshi mains use these controls. It also makes double jump canceling easier as the jump and special buttons are closer together and dont have other buttons in the way, so you can easily slide your thumb between them.
Tap jump off is almost 100% necessary as, unless you practice at it, yoshi will DJ cancel into egg toss this way when you try to save his jump. B and X are switch not only for more playability, but due to the fact that it makes DR easier. All you have to do is flick your thumb down across Y > B > Down C and you can DR as that input is Jump > Double Jump > Attack and is needed to all be inputted within 7 frames. Most Yoshi mains use these controls. It also makes double jump canceling easier as the jump and special buttons are closer together and dont have other buttons in the way, so you can easily slide your thumb between them.
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Gotta play you sometime. Where you from? I'm from SoCal. Aiming to make it to Mikehaze's E4J Lance tournament later.
- Theelitebrawler -
Smash Apprentice
Yes we do have to play sometime haha. Im in sac [Technically Nor Cal] but I will go to SoCal for tourneys sometime soon.
steep
Smash Lord
@Matador - I just press R (set to jump) and up b all at the same time and I get an up b OOS. :D
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
I love OoS, I feel like a badass every time I jump out of it ;D
MP8
Smash Journeyman
Hey, its TEB! Welcome man! :D
About the configurations. I don't know why but my reflexes have gotten worse since I've been relying on the A button and analog stick to do my aerials. (with tap jump off) I recently got back into using the c stick for aerials but its hard to get out of old habits and I've still been doing the A/Analog stick combo.
Is this a problem at all? And if it is or can be, is there a way to undo it? I've been having trouble specifically on Up-Airs with the c stick. Is it because I rely soley on the Y button for my jumps and the two buttons are too far apart? I feel that I can execute my SH up-airs faster with the A/analog. I have tried switching specials and jump the other way around to see if it would be more effective. It felt weird and I'm too lazy to get used to it. I even tried to go back to Melee for a little to get used to the original, default controls but I still find it challanging to get my up airs out quickly and to up tilt. Its just inconvenient right now so should I just mess with the configuration? Use defaults? Or keep it the way I have it and just do it old fashioned by practicing more?
About the configurations. I don't know why but my reflexes have gotten worse since I've been relying on the A button and analog stick to do my aerials. (with tap jump off) I recently got back into using the c stick for aerials but its hard to get out of old habits and I've still been doing the A/Analog stick combo.
Is this a problem at all? And if it is or can be, is there a way to undo it? I've been having trouble specifically on Up-Airs with the c stick. Is it because I rely soley on the Y button for my jumps and the two buttons are too far apart? I feel that I can execute my SH up-airs faster with the A/analog. I have tried switching specials and jump the other way around to see if it would be more effective. It felt weird and I'm too lazy to get used to it. I even tried to go back to Melee for a little to get used to the original, default controls but I still find it challanging to get my up airs out quickly and to up tilt. Its just inconvenient right now so should I just mess with the configuration? Use defaults? Or keep it the way I have it and just do it old fashioned by practicing more?
JuxtaposeX
Smash Lord
You should get used to using the C-stick for aerials, it gives you much better control over your aerials. I imagine it would be really hard to space retreating bairs with the analog stick. I use Y to jump and C-stick for all aerials (except for nair and to do thunderboot), and I'm perfectly comfortable with it. You might be hitting the C-stick too hard, or so too long so that why it feels too slow? I just press Y and kinda flick the C-stick upwards to SH upair. If I'm going for an up-air juggle, I just spam flick the C-stick up to buffer the next up-air so I don't have to time it. I usually flick it 3 times to do a 2 up-air juggle.
It might maybe be the way you're holding the controller? My thumb never rests on the controller at all, it kind of just hovers on slightly above A and B. I just quickly tap the Y button and instantly put my thumb on the B button, and by doing that I can pretty much do anything in the SH since the C-stick is so close. I pretty much do all that out of muscle memory, I only actually looked at my hands while playing about 5 minutes ago to see how it's like
If up-air -> uptilt is hard for you, then you can use C-stick for up-tilt too. Just hold up on the analog stick, and flick up on the C-stick and you should uptilt. I personally don't, but if that's what you want then
I use my controller the default way, cept for tap jump, I turned that off.
I'd say you should just get used to C-stick for aerials, you might not see it or feel it right away, but you get MUCH better control when you do. For an immediate example, go up-air juggle ganon at low %, sometimes he falls too fast for your next up-air. If you use C-stick, you can easily fast fall to connect your next hit.
I think when I needed to get used to using C-stick for aerials, I used Marth and just practiced spacing with fairs until I was pretty comfortable with it, and then it just automatically transferred over with all my other aerials. Think you should try what I did.
It might maybe be the way you're holding the controller? My thumb never rests on the controller at all, it kind of just hovers on slightly above A and B. I just quickly tap the Y button and instantly put my thumb on the B button, and by doing that I can pretty much do anything in the SH since the C-stick is so close. I pretty much do all that out of muscle memory, I only actually looked at my hands while playing about 5 minutes ago to see how it's like
If up-air -> uptilt is hard for you, then you can use C-stick for up-tilt too. Just hold up on the analog stick, and flick up on the C-stick and you should uptilt. I personally don't, but if that's what you want then
I use my controller the default way, cept for tap jump, I turned that off.
I'd say you should just get used to C-stick for aerials, you might not see it or feel it right away, but you get MUCH better control when you do. For an immediate example, go up-air juggle ganon at low %, sometimes he falls too fast for your next up-air. If you use C-stick, you can easily fast fall to connect your next hit.
I think when I needed to get used to using C-stick for aerials, I used Marth and just practiced spacing with fairs until I was pretty comfortable with it, and then it just automatically transferred over with all my other aerials. Think you should try what I did.
Coolwhip
Smash Champion
All this talk about controller configurations is making my head hurt. @___@ *Pukes*
*Cleans it up with the cape* *Looks @ everyone* What?!
*Cleans it up with the cape* *Looks @ everyone* What?!
JuxtaposeX
Smash Lord
Fludd first, then wipe with cape.
Cezz624
Smash Apprentice
Damn, you beat me too it.
- Theelitebrawler -
Smash Apprentice
Lol! Hey wzzup MP8! I know right Coolwhip although I did test X for specials but I like it Default
Cezz624
Smash Apprentice
I really don't like X for specials, it feels awkward, i prefer the default controls.
Coolwhip
Smash Champion
My controller is default. Pretty much has been since melee.
I don't play with the "Tap jump" button hate it really. Mess up my u-tilt start up combos.
C-stick is a MUST USE for mario mains for air combos & studder step f-smash.
Improves you're overall skill with mario imo.
<---He's really god-tier, but no one kares.
Oh, mario mains is da bess. I wanna get that out of the way. xD
I don't play with the "Tap jump" button hate it really. Mess up my u-tilt start up combos.
C-stick is a MUST USE for mario mains for air combos & studder step f-smash.
Improves you're overall skill with mario imo.
<---He's really god-tier, but no one kares.Oh, mario mains is da bess. I wanna get that out of the way. xD
- Theelitebrawler -
Smash Apprentice
Wow am I the only one who plays with tap jump??