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Juushichi

sugoi ~ sugoi ~
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I've been playing some friendly Bowser on the side. It's too pro.

Mario wise for me... uh, I lost to some MI MK's with him in pools? I've been using mostly Sheik and Pit recently. I took Mister Eric's RoB to Brinstar... wasn't too bad. I lost though.

:phone:
 

Coolwhip

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LOL....Bowser. Sheik, weegee & mk are much more fun to use then that fat bowser.

Brawl minus ganondork is top-tier imo. His zero to death combo's are soooo sex.

(When the other player is on the ground) D-air>D-air>D-air>U-smash......GAME!

When the next smash game comes out. Mario better be alot more stronger. Like Bbrawl stronger.
Bbrawl is cool. Mario is alot stronger in that game. Fireballz from 5% to 6%. Up-smash & D-smash are power
kill moves. F-air is hella more stronger then ever.
 

Inferno3044

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I don't have a Bowser. I've gone solo Mario for a bit. I have a Luigi that I haven't used in a while, started to pick up Falco and I might pick up Wario. I'm gonna get in some good practice for my next tourney (KTAR). I'm gonna try and practice with someone every day that week.

@Coolwhip - Nobody cares about BBrawl XD.
 

Coolwhip

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@Inferno: A2Z will be mad @ you. lol

Real talk, i'm not that big of a fan Bbrawl anyway. Brawl minus is still hella fun.
(When you have more then two people playing with you.)

Man. I need to hit up the east coast tourneys soon. So many marios over there i need to meet
inperson like boss, famous, matador, kirinblaze & many others.
Here in IL. It's only me & bo_x7 reppin mario here. Others reppin marry-o here in the midwest
overall like Xeroxen & Calebyte.
 

MP8

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Coolwhip, you're missing out man. The King of Koopas is very unique and dominating with him is a great feeling. You're more prone to be underestimated because of his speed and mass but taking advantage of that has its benefits. Plus, he's not all that slow when you get use to him.
 

A2ZOMG

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Bowser is stupid easy to pick up especially since a lot of people don't know the matchup and will let you get away with a lot of stuff if they don't know how to combo or edgeguard you. Run up. Shield. Up-B out of shield if they don't grab or fullhop. Oh and airdodge -> Up-B a lot since people STILL fall for that. It's fun to pick up Bowser and just toy with people who don't know how to respond to his options, since he can punish mistakes fairly hard, and his grab release into D-tilt is a nice hit confirm into a moderately powerful kill move. Picking him up doesn't take much effort, just you need to know how to buffer grab release combos. I suggest you try it Coolwhip.

It only becomes unfun once your opponent knows the matchup, since Bowser is disadvantaged to everyone. Including Ganondorf by the way.
 

A2ZOMG

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He fails less against certain characters than Ganon. He does slightly better against DDD, Falco, Metaknight, and maybe a few other characters who I don't care to remember at the moment. The facts are he technically loses against every character in the game however. Ganon having only one slightly favorable matchup against another bottom tier character doesn't make him an overall better character. Bowser however is definitely bottom tier. Same tier as Ganon. Loses to Ganon slightly, but fails slightly less in more important matchups.

Bowser's durability is the opposite of Snake's, where his durability is so bad that it worsens his matchups universally by about 10 points on a 100 point scale. Onstage, he's close to even against Ganon, but once he's being juggled and edgeguarded, the matchup instantly swings to Ganon's favor in that situation by far just given how terrible Bowser's durability is. He can't juggle Ganon or edgeguard him nearly as well as the other way around.

Snake unlike Bowser has real escape options from juggles (low lag B reversal options, trading hits using grenades, a not excessively terrible airdodge) and a recovery that under normal situations can be difficult for characters to intercept, and his ledge game isn't 100% completely free since it actually can be hard to recognize Snake's ledge attack. Bowser just gets comboed, can't land onstage, and all his ledge options are free and easy to react to. Any person who lets Bowser recover ESPECIALLY after his damage exceeds 100% without hitting him needs a slap in the face.
 

2fast

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Yo, does anyone get mad on AiB when your on the Singles Ladder and some big shot with a ton of points comes in and starts hating on you saying you suck and you'd get three stocked. I get seriously mad at that ****.
 

Fire!

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Just ask them how many IRL tournaments they've gone to.

Then laugh in their face.
 

Omari

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@2fast: Don't feed trolls. How? Be nice or ignore (treat people how you'd like to be treated, implied in a respectful manner). Not much they can do if their plan(s) aren't working. Not everyone's your friend bruh so you can't trust every smile you meet. I'm not suggesting second guess yourself but more-so to analyze & observe those around you.

Regarding wifi: 1st rule of wifi? Recognize it's wifi. What do you mean? BS is going to happen regardless (yes, I dislike it too but that's part of life...deal with & move on) so don't let the virtual world have an effect on you personally (in reality). The best thing (MO) you can do is learn from those better. Regardless of my opponent's skill level, I'm always asking questions & soaking in facts.
 

A2ZOMG

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Hi guys I'm high on alcohol. Sup? Anime club ppl are the best guys ever. Walking straight is hard. Reading small text is annoying. So wassup guys?
 

A2ZOMG

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Can't tell what defines as drunk, since I don't think I reached my true limit yet. I was definitely thinking pretty rationally under the influence of alcohol. Minus the excessive smiling and giggling and feeling like small text was a pain in the butt to read. Still able to teach friends from anime club a thing or two about Smash basics, and still had pretty good control over my characters.
 

JuxtaposeX

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Played smash while drunk before, got upsmashed into the air and that's when I noticed how trippy mario's tumbling animation was when he was falling back down.

And then I exploded on the blastzone.
 

Inferno3044

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Can't tell what defines as drunk, since I don't think I reached my true limit yet. I was definitely thinking pretty rationally under the influence of alcohol. Minus the excessive smiling and giggling and feeling like small text was a pain in the butt to read. Still able to teach friends from anime club a thing or two about Smash basics, and still had pretty good control over my characters.
Maybe you're tipsy?
 

A2ZOMG

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Just wanted to pop in to say, edgeguarding Metaknight is most definitely viable. Especially when he recovers low.

People don't abuse the ledge nearly enough. You think more people who played Melee would do that. Especially if you're a character who has fast and low lag aerials. A few MK mains at least know that the ledge is useful. Mario mains need to know the same thing as well given the nature of their aerials. Grabbing the ledge for the invincibility frames is almost always your friend when edgeguarding.

Yes Metaknight is still lame for Mario because he's ****ing Metaknight, and he also happens to be too stupidly difficult for Mario to combo in most cases, but he's not impossible to edgeguard effectively, and knowing that can give you the edge here and there.

Same **** goes for fighting Marth as well, except it's even easier to edgeguard him, and he's actually floaty enough to juggle and do Jab cancel tricks on.

As for Falco, don't save U-smash for kills against him. Save D-smash or B-throw. Juggling him with U-smash is the best way to maximize grab reward, and the only real way you can favorably challenge his D-air. At 0 you can D-throw -> buffered U-smash if he doesn't airdodge. Or you can U-throw -> U-air x2 if he tries to jump away. In fact U-throw Falco more at low percents, since that extra height you get from it really helps in covering his options more safely, as well as the fact it's less affected by DI.
 

Kanzaki

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Correct! xD

Actually you can only see my hair, I'm on the bottom left TV playing a friendly match against Nexus(which I won :p)

I was on a winning streak with my Mario that day pre-tournament, winning multiple money matches/friendlies. But then more people showed up, and it got stupid hot in there, and I got a huge migraine :[
 

Fire!

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And he had go and remove it. :(

Mario boards need to get more active for these reasons
 

JuxtaposeX

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[you] probably turned into whoever's logged in's name or something, so 2fast saw that as 2fast really sucks
xD
 
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