Mangos Falco Advice

[BiN Breezy]

I know I use the stick but that is only for full hops, Double jump, and SH.But for ledge hopping i use y II use the stick to ledge hop like the double laser to keep it really low or if I dont want to rise to high above the opponent since faloc has like and amazing ledge hop.

 

[x After Dawn x]

I use the left stick for jumping in shine > jump > bair. Hold down on left stick with left hand and press B with right hand, then immediately press up on left stick with left hand and hold direction on c-stick with right hand for aerial (mostly bair). Helps a LOT at higher percentages, and it's basically the only way you can do it with Fox.

 

[soap]

but....... but..... no

I disagree, unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. because by using x or y, you get to split the two actions (let go of ledge and jump) between two hands, which allows you to do it quicker.

theoretically that is...

by what I'm doing heavily influences which I actually find easier to be frame perfect with in practice. for ledge hop aerial, I do x. for firestall I do up. for ledgehop double laser I do y. for filing my taxes, I do L + c-stick up.

do u do aerial shine bair with x to c stick?

same principle

 

[Mogwai]

well, at least for bairing and dairing off the ledge, I use A cause that's what feels natural. I just let go of the edge with backwards to bair and down to dair, since I jump immediately, it barely matters how you let go and then it's a short tap from X to A.

 

[`DNS`]

i use y for almost everything, x for WD only and up on the control stick for shine-aerial.. cstick for most aerials and i hardly ever touch z.. only when i have to jc grabs, otherwise it's usually r+a

 

[NJzFinest]

laser grab more >.>

 

[TresChikon]

well, at least for bairing and dairing off the ledge, I use A cause that's what feels natural. I just let go of the edge with backwards to bair and down to dair, since I jump immediately, it barely matters how you let go and then it's a short tap from X to A.

Aerial with A does feel more natural, it's just I'm slow and ledge hop bairing with A gives me DI issues

 

[Foxy]

I use X for all jumping except for shine-aerial or shine-turnaround-aerial; I use R for all l-canceling, wavedashing, shielding, teching, and a lot of times it gives you free accidental techs when you meant to l-cancel but got hit; and I use c-stick for all aerials and smashes.

Works beautifully for me.

 

[TresChikon]

Accidental techs make you look pro.

 

[Scud]

I thought this was the Mango advice thread :-/.

Since I already posted.....I use y and c stick for everything except of course nair which i use A. I split up all of the actions the most I can, using my right index many times for jumping, which I guess some refer to this as claw style or something? Nothing in this game feels very speedy to me using this style, besides something like luigi's down b lol. Also as far as precision, you have more control with movement when you only use the analog for movement rather than for aerials, since you would then be affecting your movement.

 

[TresChikon]

I thought this was the Mango advice thread :-/.

Mango isn't here...he's eating...mangoes...

 

[Mindgames Son!]

I use A for all aerials except for nair, which I use c stick for. It's too hard to do otherwise.

 

[unknown522]

lol Mindgames Son!

best tag ever.

 

[soap]

I use A for all aerials except for nair, which I use c stick for. It's too hard to do otherwise.

funny guy .

 

[NJzFinest]

Do people still do laser to reverse uptilt?

I remember Shiz used to do it but then stopped and I think I remember BigR saying it's not so great.

 

[TresChikon]

I laser to f-tilt

 

[Foxy]

Do people still do laser to reverse uptilt?

I remember Shiz used to do it but then stopped and I think I remember BigR saying it's not so great.

I've used it a lot and it just doesn't work that well.

You get grabbed. Period.

 

[NJzFinest]

I see, I guess the range bwt Fox's and Falco's uptilt matters alot.

And yeah, I <3 laser forward tilt. Forward started that ish long ago and it's my favorite thing to do against low tiers.

 

[★J.G WentWorth★]

Great thread, neeeds more MaNg0 though. *Subscribes*

 

[TresChikon]

I guess if you're lucky you can parry something.

 

[JPOBS]

laser to reverse uptilt wud get you grabed for sure kiss those stocks goodbye.

 

[JulyZerg]

i learned to laser forward tilt from watching blunted object and dieslow ^^, go go eric

 

[TresChikon]

Yeah it works against punching bags like Samus.

 

[JulyZerg]

i use it against heroes with like 150% or above, since they will be extra careful and it does the job fine

 

[DarkFalconZ]

yea i cant do the falco utilt after i do an dair what should i do. falco always winds up do the upsmash

 

[Dorsey]

yea i cant do the falco utilt after i do an dair what should i do. falco always winds up do the upsmash

start holding up during the dair before you hit the ground, then just l-cancel and hit A

 

[TresChikon]

Well, it's a tilt, sooooo... just tilt it. Don't smash it up.

 

[DarkFalconZ]

im trying to till it up but i guess im not hitting up fast enough because when i hit up im also hitting a at the same time

 

[x After Dawn x]

Are you really asking how to tilt...? Wow.

 

[NJzFinest]

The Melee instruction booklet has a pretty solid explanation.

 

[TresChikon]

It has nothing to do with speed, if you hit up too far either you'll smash or jump. Practicing to lightly tilt is pretty helpful for reverse u-tilts. And u-tilt is a pretty sexy move.

 

[-ACE-]

start holding up during the dair before you hit the ground, then just l-cancel and hit A

This is the easiest way imo. You can just hold up and away for a pivot utilt as well. Not hard.

 

[DarkFalconZ]

dang gang up huh

 

[choknater]

lmao smashboards falco players be gettin off on a noob right now

lookin mad cute

KFC mode: walk up reverse utilt

 

[TresChikon]

Sorry, I wasn't trying to sound condescending, what part about it is getting in the way? Do you keep U-smashing? Or do you just jump?

Dorsey's method would be the most effective way. Because you can slam the stick upwards without having to worry about any unwanted action thanks to the lag from the dair.

I have trouble sometimes and fail the reverse u-tilt and end up f-tilting.

 

[Rannskita]

if youre REALLY having trouble doing it delicately just think about it doing a slight move up without really trying to do it... i usually find thats enough to make my hands do it (same principle as ouija boards, unconscious movement).

but you should really train to just... do it. its not an advanced tech, its a standard control input that will hinder you if you cant do it on command

 

[AvengerAngel]

Advice for Falco teaming with Puff plz <3

There are 2 vids of me playing Falco in a tournament set in case you can take a look at them and give me moar specific advice :O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVn0OSmySr4&feature=channel_page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPSQvArVCQs&feature=channel_page

 

[DarkFalconZ]

its cool i can tilt just not after a dair

 

[TresChikon]

I think I know what your problem is. Do you dair with the control stick? I'd imagine going from down to an up position being a bit odd for some people.

Try dairing with the C-stick, you'll get more control over your DI and you can u-tilt easily afterwards.

 

[DarkFalconZ]

ok ill give it a shot