LightKnight
Smash Journeyman
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I'll sort these by series they are from and include together characters that are the only representatives of their series who are returning. I'm gonna ignore echo fighters as they don't make a big impact on development time anyway so you can just imagine them being included if you like but otherwise I'm gonna assume they won't even be bothered with. I'm not sure what changes this game would have but I'd imagine the bulk of the returning characters would undergo various changes which you'll somewhat see me make mention of later.
The Mario cast would easily still be the biggest and I can't see many of them being cut. I can see most of them receiving major changes except maybe Yoshi who would stay relatively the same.
Pikachu is a mainstay of Pokemon, Trainer helps further represent the series and its traits, while Greninja is an overall super popular Pokemon. With the series worldwide popularity I have no issue with them having 3 characters. Pikachu would probably have the most changes though, having moves like his side-B completely changed. At this point I need to address disappearance of Jigglypuff as she was part of the original Smash 64 roster and I'm just gonna say I'd treat this as a reboot of the Smash games so the idea is not to allow the past games to completely define what this one can and cannot do.
Obviously Link would still be in but for the sake of cuts, I wouldn't include Zelda and instead I'd have Ganondorf take her 'Mage' archetype. This could be a mistake though, with how many people currently main Ganondorf in Ultimate and to be fair he has become quite different from Falcon in his current form but nonetheless this is what I'm thinking.
Marth is the face of of Fire Emblem and I actually chose Roy because while he might not be as popular as other FE characters he has a certain 'flare' other FE characters tend to lack while putting the 'Fire' in Fire Emblem I'd have him take Ike's role, borrowing some moves from him (replacing the counter) and dawning the role of a semi-'heavy' sword-fighter. As oppose to the other three Sword users like Pit who fits the fast archetype, Marth being the slow precise middle-ground, and Link being the slow technical multi-tool zoner which would contrast well with Roy too.
To be honest, I don't really like Diddy as a fighter and have no connection to the series either so for the sake of cuts he was an easy one for me on this list. Meanwhile, keeping the most iconic protagonist and antagonist of the series while simultaneously keeping two heavies made the most sense to me.
Two most iconic Metroid characters...
A lot of characters are here due to me making cuts but keeping the rest you see here made the most sense to me. G&W just seemed lack too classic and wacky of a character to cut. Isabelle seems like the better representative for her series and is certainly more loved than 'Villager' who after all is just an avatar character which I'm trying to avoid anyway. Isabelle might incorporate some things from Villager or other new things from the games.
One of Nintendo's most successful newer IP's, no way Inkling is leaving the roster. I can even see an Octoling Echo or semi-clone being made. I can easily see Inkling having a very different moveset from Ultimate though.
While I was trying to disclude 3rd party characters I did end up keeping Sonic because of how iconic he is and his strong rivalry with Mario I.E. Olympics ect… Perhaps also personal bias which of course effects the entire list
That would be 27 returning characters which leaves room for some newcomers in the base roster..
Potential Newcomers:
Bandana Waddle Dee
Waluigi (He does have a following after all and finally you could have Mario and Luigi face Wario and Waluigi!)
Dixie Kong (What? Didn't think I'd add her after removing Diddy?)
(New Pokemon)
(Zelda series character)
(Xenoblade character)
(FE character)
(Arms character)
Potential DLC Characters (Don't take these picks too seriously but I think its pretty much a given this game would get DLC so this is where I'll place some new 3rd party characters):
Tails (or a different Sonic character)
Master Chief
Crash Bandicoot
Zero (from Mega Man)
Chun-Li
Seeing as of the writing of this post we've barely gotten into the DLC of Ultimate its safe to assume I'd do this differently in the future but for now this makes the most sense to me. Even if thats a little over 1/3 for the base roster I figure I can do the same and it still seems reasonable.
The Mario cast would easily still be the biggest and I can't see many of them being cut. I can see most of them receiving major changes except maybe Yoshi who would stay relatively the same.
Pikachu is a mainstay of Pokemon, Trainer helps further represent the series and its traits, while Greninja is an overall super popular Pokemon. With the series worldwide popularity I have no issue with them having 3 characters. Pikachu would probably have the most changes though, having moves like his side-B completely changed. At this point I need to address disappearance of Jigglypuff as she was part of the original Smash 64 roster and I'm just gonna say I'd treat this as a reboot of the Smash games so the idea is not to allow the past games to completely define what this one can and cannot do.
Obviously Link would still be in but for the sake of cuts, I wouldn't include Zelda and instead I'd have Ganondorf take her 'Mage' archetype. This could be a mistake though, with how many people currently main Ganondorf in Ultimate and to be fair he has become quite different from Falcon in his current form but nonetheless this is what I'm thinking.
Marth is the face of of Fire Emblem and I actually chose Roy because while he might not be as popular as other FE characters he has a certain 'flare' other FE characters tend to lack while putting the 'Fire' in Fire Emblem I'd have him take Ike's role, borrowing some moves from him (replacing the counter) and dawning the role of a semi-'heavy' sword-fighter. As oppose to the other three Sword users like Pit who fits the fast archetype, Marth being the slow precise middle-ground, and Link being the slow technical multi-tool zoner which would contrast well with Roy too.
To be honest, I don't really like Diddy as a fighter and have no connection to the series either so for the sake of cuts he was an easy one for me on this list. Meanwhile, keeping the most iconic protagonist and antagonist of the series while simultaneously keeping two heavies made the most sense to me.
Two most iconic Metroid characters...
A lot of characters are here due to me making cuts but keeping the rest you see here made the most sense to me. G&W just seemed lack too classic and wacky of a character to cut. Isabelle seems like the better representative for her series and is certainly more loved than 'Villager' who after all is just an avatar character which I'm trying to avoid anyway. Isabelle might incorporate some things from Villager or other new things from the games.
One of Nintendo's most successful newer IP's, no way Inkling is leaving the roster. I can even see an Octoling Echo or semi-clone being made. I can easily see Inkling having a very different moveset from Ultimate though.
While I was trying to disclude 3rd party characters I did end up keeping Sonic because of how iconic he is and his strong rivalry with Mario I.E. Olympics ect… Perhaps also personal bias which of course effects the entire list
That would be 27 returning characters which leaves room for some newcomers in the base roster..
Potential Newcomers:
Bandana Waddle Dee
Waluigi (He does have a following after all and finally you could have Mario and Luigi face Wario and Waluigi!)
Dixie Kong (What? Didn't think I'd add her after removing Diddy?)
(New Pokemon)
(Zelda series character)
(Xenoblade character)
(FE character)
(Arms character)
Potential DLC Characters (Don't take these picks too seriously but I think its pretty much a given this game would get DLC so this is where I'll place some new 3rd party characters):
Tails (or a different Sonic character)
Master Chief
Crash Bandicoot
Zero (from Mega Man)
Chun-Li
Seeing as of the writing of this post we've barely gotten into the DLC of Ultimate its safe to assume I'd do this differently in the future but for now this makes the most sense to me. Even if thats a little over 1/3 for the base roster I figure I can do the same and it still seems reasonable.
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