Mafia and Werewolves Gamethread

[#HBC | Gorf]

Rhand check your last tag by me and answer my question I left you yesterDay in my notes. I really don’t want to have to do this song and dance with you about you not knowing what a seer is all game, but there are still some instances in the thread that i see coming from you that could make me think you made that up which would pretty much make you spewed scum in my eyes. And I don’t wanna have to tunnel you for no reason now

 

[osieorb18]

EBWOP:

Vote: Nerbins Chop Chop

 

[Shurian]

In #50 they put an early scumread on Eido for voting Whysper

I noted this as well, but that shouldn't stop them from softing to their scumteam.
Hides it better in fact, I don't think the other scum team would realise Eido was another scum from a different faction.

 

[Swiss]

ExLight / Swiss / Gorf / Wiisp - Comfortable. Could be a Power Wolf here.
Scarlet / Mao / Osie / Frozen - Not sure, need more. Scum could fake it here.
Wam / Rhand / Gellnick / Whysper / Chaco - Not a fan. Would vote here toDay.


eido's teammate hunt. he's not a busser, he's careful - most likely to be middle column
scarlet dead
mao.Osie.FF town reads
nvm

eido selfish player, likely to be bussing...

Somehow I feel like I have less to go on toDay then yesterDay

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I don't think that's the case.

I don't think that's the case. In #50 they put an early scumread on Eido for voting Whysper. That would go against his objective of buddying up with Eido, no?

i dont think that matters at all. as far as im concerned that read is as good as pressure cuz he townreads him like 50-100 posts later. I could see the calling him not a vt as having been traitor!swiss’ way of communicating to him about that even. for traitor!swiss this play style is perfect in that way, he can talk to all his scummates directly. personally id probably want another flip before really rolling with that though.

 

[osieorb18]

Somehow I feel like I have less to go on toDay then yesterDay

Or just nothing concrete? Yeah, there's no particular solid ground coming from the setup, from the players, or anything else. I was happy to try to sort this game earlier but like, I'm sorta irritated because the scum base is WAY too large and I can't get the PoE down to 1 more than number of living scum.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

then again i think traitor!swiss might try to throw fud at the universal townread on eido specifically BECAUSE of how much of a target to mafia being universally townread makes him.

I wonder how much coaching of eido Swiss might’ve done after the first few pages

 

[osieorb18]

Every time I open this thread, I sit and stare at my readslist in confusion for a couple minutes, then go and do something else.

 

[Swiss]

So anyway Gorf not VT, but back off bro...

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

osieorb18 I wonder why you think scum!poyzin less. personally I think him and Chaco both look worse on a town!wam flip

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

So anyway Gorf not VT, but back off bro...

bro **** the haters never change

 

[Swiss]

i dont think that matters at all. as far as im concerned that read is as good as pressure cuz he townreads him like 50-100 posts later. I could see the calling him not a vt as having been traitor!swiss’ way of communicating to him about that even. for traitor!swiss this play style is perfect in that way, he can talk to all his scummates directly. personally id probably want another flip before really rolling with that though.

I get it, this content makes sense, stop going down this road right now.

I called him non vt because he was the first to post after I said we should mass claim and obv he didn't claim.

 

[osieorb18]

osieorb18 I wonder why you think scum!poyzin less. personally I think him and Chaco both look worse on a town!wam flip

Are you thinking of Poyzin as a Wolf or a Mafia?

 

[osieorb18]

I... think I'd be down for a mass claim? My readlist looks like this at the moment and I sorta hate it.

+ Wiisp
~ Gorf

~ Rhand

~ Poyzin
??? Swiss

~ Detective Mao

• Frozen Flame
• Nerbins

- gellnick
~ Shurian

 

[osieorb18]

EBWOP:

+ Wiisp
~ Gorf

~ Rhand

~ Poyzin
??? Swiss

~ Detective Mao
– Frozen Flame
– Nerbins

- gellnick
~ Shurian

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Are you thinking of Poyzin as a Wolf or a Mafia?

havent really gone that far but gun to my head id say mafia? i don’t think he’d be traitor though, i feel like with that much info scum!chaco wouldn’t have been such a wet blanket content wise

 

[Swiss]

If we mass claim we lose doc, which is not good.

Only PR we have left so we get a **** load of VT claims

 

[Swiss]

EBWOP:

+ Wiisp
~ Gorf

~ Rhand

~ Poyzin
??? Swiss

~ Detective Mao
– Frozen Flame
– Nerbins

- gellnick
~ Shurian

Is this one in order?

 

[osieorb18]

Is this one in order?

Nope

 

[Swiss]

I don't understand your reads.

- vs ~ ?

 

[osieorb18]

Setup not being in the OP is BS and Chop Chop should be hung by their toes from the back of a charging hippo.

Role Setup
Cop
Seer
Town Power Role
Town Power Role
Town Power Role
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town

Mafia Power Role
Mafia Goon

Werewolf Power Role
Werewolf Goon

Traitor JOAT (Rolecop, Vest Inventor, Commuter)

The Traitor appears on both the Cop and Seer Checks.
They Know who the Mafia and Werewolves are and can win with either of them.

 

[osieorb18]

I don't understand your reads.

- vs ~ ?

Oh those are more personal marks to remind myself something about where people were at some stage of my reads.

 

[osieorb18]

Shurian is probably higher at this point, for that matter.

 

[osieorb18]

Oh ffs double kill screws all the math up.

Without another crosskill, we've already lost.

 

[osieorb18]

D1: 9-1-2-2 -> 8-1-2-2
N1: 8-1-2-2 -> 7-1-2-1
D2: 7-1-2-1 Pseudo-LyLO

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Damn eido really namedropped whysper 8 times? with his relative lack of presence didn’t she have like 10 posts what the eff could he have even been talking about with her

 

[Swiss]

If the symbols don't mean anything, and neither does the order...

wtf are your reads? Can you just say town lean scum lean etc lol

 

[Rhand]

Rhand check your last tag by me and answer my question I left you yesterDay in my notes. I really don’t want to have to do this song and dance with you about you not knowing what a seer is all game, but there are still some instances in the thread that i see coming from you that could make me think you made that up which would pretty much make you spewed scum in my eyes. And I don’t wanna have to tunnel you for no reason now

That post meant that Swiss asked all PR's to pile on him. It was a boast. He wasn't seriously expecting any of the PR's to actually do what he asked.

 

[osieorb18]

I guess no elim is actually possibly correct here? But the double kill doesn't stop unless the other wolf is eliminated...

**** it, WE'LL DO IT LIVE.

I second Swiss's call for a massclaim.

gellnick Nerbins #HBC | FrozeηFlame Detective Mao Shurian Swiss UtopianPoyzin Rhand #HBC | Gorf Wiisp

 

[Swiss]

D1: 9-1-2-2 -> 8-1-2-2
N1: 8-1-2-2 -> 7-1-2-1
D2: 7-1-2-1 Pseudo-LyLO

Depends on night kills.

All we can do is lynch a non town today.

 

[osieorb18]

If the symbols don't mean anything, and neither does the order...

wtf are your reads? Can you just say town lean scum lean etc lol

Lol the order of the groups matter, the order within the groups is more arbitrary.

 

[Swiss]

I said DON'T massclaim Osie are you on drugs?

We need doc alive no? All that happens in a mass claim is everyone claims vt except for doc who claims doc.

Mass claim will lose us the game

 

[osieorb18]

Swiss

Townread:
Wiisp
Gorf

Townlean:
Rhand

Null:
Poyzin
Swiss
Shurian

Scumlean:
Detective Mao
Frozen Flame
Nerbins

Scumread:
gellnick

 

[osieorb18]

I said DON'T massclaim Osie are you on drugs?

We need doc alive no? All that happens in a mass claim is everyone claims vt except for doc who claims doc.

Mass claim will lose us the game

I don't think there is a doc.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

That post meant that Swiss asked all PR's to pile on him. It was a boast. He wasn't seriously expecting any of the PR's to actually do what he asked.

1) I mean I know that but weren’t you one of the higher proponents of sussing Swiss because he was tryna control pr’s?

2) but it doesn’t make sense to me that you’d think a seer is an Oracle yet “seer on me” is a logical request? How can the seer from your eyes at time be “on Swiss” if they’re supposed to ask the mod if a snippet from the thread is truthful or not? And why hadnt you tried making everyone say a statement early in the Day yeaterDay to verify its validity in the same way you hopped in here trying to have everyone make a seer check claim in your entrance toDay?

 

[Wiisp]

Man if either Mao or Swiss' are wolves and think this hedging on Wisp looks townie, they are totally wrong lol

I'm glad that we are concluding that this game isn't as easy as people were making it out to be yesterday.

 

[Rhand]

The crosskill can happen later too I think to re-enable our wincon?
And they can kill their traitor (lol)

 

[osieorb18]

For various reasons, I'm kinda sure that we have to elim the one remaining wolf here for the game not to end and that sucks.

 

[osieorb18]

2) but it doesn’t make sense to me that you’d think a seer is an Oracle yet “seer on me” is a logical request? How can the seer from your eyes at time be “on Swiss” if they’re supposed to ask the mod if a snippet from the thread is truthful or not? And why hadnt you tried making everyone say a statement early in the Day yeaterDay to verify its validity in the same way you hopped in here trying to have everyone make a seer check claim in your entrance toDay?

Lie detector is used as a cop.

 

[osieorb18]

Honestly, if I die tonight, it is going to be EXTREMELY tempting to flame out the host in DVC.