Mafia and Werewolves Gamethread

[UtopianPoyzin]

Cop
Seer
TPR
4x VT
4x Evil

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Maybe not. If we mislynch then let’s say we lose 3 VTs to make it easy.

Cop
Seer
TPR
VT
4x Evil

That’s parity if you forget the fact it’s multiball. Just something to keep in mind tho, we may want to try to find Eido’s partner to remove one of the night killing threats.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Never mind no massclaim we lost most of our TPRs anyway so no need outing the rest

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Actually I take that back, Sheridan had a good page 33. Null read. Anybody can have a good page, but can you have a good 20?

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Shurian* autocorrect. Not supporting a Shurian lynch atm, VT claim does nothing for me because that’s a standard scum claim and I’m pretty sure Ex just wanted to make it through the night but they replaced out hmm

 

[Detective Mao]

Claiming here would be a horrible idea, there's no guarantee that the TPR remaining would be able to protect Cop and Seer.

Your current readlist is quite the jump from the previous one, though that's only to be expected, and that's why your content yesterday was a bit lackluster-ish. I'm most interested in your Wiisp/Gorf reads – can you elaborate on them more?

Also... Shurian just replaced in? What are you talking about?

 

[Detective Mao]

Actually I take that back, Sheridan had a good page 33. Null read. Anybody can have a good page, but can you have a good 20?

I... honestly wonder if scum would be this flimsy regarding their reads. Are you still catching up?

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Also... Shurian just replaced in? What are you talking about?

Yeah, it was them and nerbins. At first 8 was limping them together as the replacements because I didn’t particularly care for either slot but Ex did lay more ground work and gave me more to chew on; I just didn’t think it was genuine. Shurian had a good opening, glad they completely disagree with Ex’s reads for the most part but I’m doubtful of Gorf so maybe Ex was right there.

Wiisp is an uncced cop claim, locked for now unless somebody wants to claim cop on D4 or sum. I did a more in depth thing for Gorf and tbh I think it could help reading the summer mafia game which is the most recent scum game I can recall of his. I don’t think he actually believes in his reads.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

I... honestly wonder if scum would be this flimsy regarding their reads. Are you still catching up?

No I’m definitely caught up. I never denied Shurian nor Nerbins were replacements; they are. I was just referring to them interchangeably with their late replacees

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Your current readlist is quite the jump from the previous one, though that's only to be expected, and that's why your content yesterday was a bit lackluster-ish. I'm most interested in your Wiisp/Gorf reads – can you elaborate on them more?

I felt solid with my previous readslist. I def townread gorf then and made several comments about such. I’m just thinking post-Wam flip, didn’t really have anything to do with my own content.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

https://smashboards.com/threads/dga...ins-deadline-8-00-a-m-cst-monday-6-24.484663/ Gorf scum game I’m thinking back on

 

[Shurian]

Wiisp I understand but how do you read Osie, Swiss and Rhand up high? Mind giving some backup reasoning?

I have very mixed feelings about the massclaim rush posts, like you're posting all your thoughts like a machine gun. It's a good look as town, but I've seen scum (damn firekitten from FoL) who have done that before, so I can't really slot you up just yet.

Mass claiming is a terrible idea btw. Gives scum all the info they need while us town be clueless. I have been scum before and mass claiming definitely won't help, considering us VTs won't really need the info at all... while scum have free role estate.

This is interesting to say the least xD.
Now lemme back to rereading pages 4~32

 

[Detective Mao]

That's not the point. I just find it strange that you proceed to scumread ExLight for 30 pages, and when Shurian comes in and has a decent opening, it completely negates your earlier read. You have Gorf as your top townread for ?? pages and after presenting a few posts where you don't like their tone, they drop down to your lowest scumreads, which makes me wonder the credibility of your reads. This is multiball anyway, so voting with a scumread isn't necessarily scum-AI if you believe them to be different factions so ??? you're just making me confused

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

I don’t want a mass claim anymore, I typically try to do SoC posts because I feel I can get my points across better that way so I’m not just jumping around in logic and leave the players to fix the wires.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

That's not the point. I just find it strange that you proceed to scumread ExLight for 30 pages, and when Shurian comes in and has a decent opening, it completely negates your earlier read. You have Gorf as your top townread for ?? pages and after presenting a few posts where you don't like their tone, they drop down to your lowest scumreads, which makes me wonder the credibility of your reads. This is multiball anyway, so voting with a scumread isn't necessarily scum-AI if you believe them to be different factions so ??? you're just making me confused

And that’s why I try to do stream of consciousness.

I decided I no longer townread Gorf over night, and Ex I was mostly having trust issues with but I’m willing to give Shurian a chance. I don’t townread them by any means, which is why I said “that’s one good page but can you do 20”. I’m giving credit where it’s due, Shurian sounds townie here, regardless of my opinion of Ex.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Is it just me or did Rhand heavy fade into the background? It could be that they’re not here right now but I keep forgetting about their posts.

 

[Detective Mao]

That's... that's the thing

You don't "decide" not to townread someone

You come to a conclusion based on the things they've done

It feels like you've already made up your conclusion beforehand and are now trying to find a way to justify it

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

(I don’t want to vote Rhand here that’s more of me just wanting to here more from them to see if I cement by light town read or not)

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

That's... that's the thing

You don't "decide" not to townread someone

You come to a conclusion based on the things they've done

It feels like you've already made up your conclusion beforehand and are now trying to find a way to justify it

Actually I do

 

[Detective Mao]

Vote: UtopianPoyzin

Isn't that wonderful.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

You could hypothetically make a case for any player in the game using reverse reverse reverse psychology. You just have to decide which makes the most sense

 

[Detective Mao]

My readlist is roughly the same as before, though Utopian can go lower. Shurian's slot is still in my scumreads, but I do give them credit for having an alright opening and overall tone.

 

[Shurian]

Swiss During D1, have you memed at all?

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Unlike the gorf vote, Mao’s vote is purely out of spite (if it’s not I honestly do not care) so it doesn’t change my read of them. I was already beginning to sus gorf overnight but the vote on me sealed the deal

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Mao’s vote is purely out of spite (if it’s not I honestly do not care)

I mean I’m aware they scumread me, should clear that up, but the timing was out of spite evident by the retort. Just noting that for now when I update my readlist whenever that happens next.

 

[Detective Mao]

You could hypothetically make a case for any player in the game using reverse reverse reverse psychology. You just have to decide which makes the most sense

Yes, but when you've already made up your mind, doing a sudden 180 ° doesn't exactly make sense. Otherwise all scum could just explain turning on their townreads and voting with their scumreads, because they "changed their minds". Do you understand what I'm getting at?

 

[Detective Mao]

Like, if your goal is to explain your thought process in a way that is "good", I'm expecting you to voice these doubts earlier and not simply come in with completely opposite reads for no reason at all.

Unvote

Now that I think about it, I feel like this is TWTBW

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Why tf did you unvote if you said I “could go lower”

Did you just... decide not to scumread me anymore?

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Reads are fluid. Go with the flooooow

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Even if it means turning your readslist on its head when you’re running out of answers

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Or sometjing

 

[Detective Mao]

Why tf did you unvote if you said I “could go lower”

Did you just... decide not to scumread me anymore?

I'm not about to do this with you. Have a nice day

 

[osieorb18]

Wat those flips.
Wat Wiisp is creepy.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

I planned on sleeping after #1345 anyway

 

[Shurian]

What a great appearance!

Wat those flips.
Wat Wiisp is creepy.

Wasn't expecting Eido to flip scum? Me neither xD

Anything new you wanna add?
(Not reading past for the time being, on work)

 

[osieorb18]

Wow. Nice.

what’s it looking like wiisp?

vote: poyzin

Not quite feeling it actually.

 

[osieorb18]

Is it just me or did Rhand heavy fade into the background? It could be that they’re not here right now but I keep forgetting about their posts.

He's European; pretty sure EoD would be at a bad time for him.

 

[osieorb18]

What a great appearance!


Wasn't expecting Eido to flip scum? Me neither xD

Anything new you wanna add?
(Not reading past for the time being, on work)

I'mma go reread Eido, but I have opinions on this night phase and most of them involve curse words.

 

[osieorb18]

osieorb18
did u tickle me last night? I can't imagine you saying yes since that would almost always be a scum claim
but I want to hear your answer none-the-less

Sorry, I don't like you that way.

 

[Shurian]

I'mma go reread Eido, but I have opinions on this night phase and most of them involve curse words.

Don't let frustrating games bring you down! It's going to be alright :3
I can wait for my content.