Mafia and Werewolves Gamethread

[#HBC | Gorf]

Wow. Nice.

what’s it looking like wiisp?

vote: poyzin

 

[Shurian]

In here baby, this game be spicy alright.

Vote : Poyzin

Coming from the AtE trash heap that is FoL, it is I! A player who has not played a single FM game in forever!
Looking forward to the verbal abuse everyone will give me :3

Detective Mao I do know your identity, but I have not played with you before. The guys back at FoL said you were a charming one and missed you.

First skim: This game is a riotfest with claiming on day 1.

What's everyone's experience in FMs? How long has everyone played? Can someone please list down each player's experience lvl? This is to help me better read each player as different levels of gameplay will slip up differently. My home site has tons of lvl 1 gameplay, so I'm hoping to brush up on lvls 2~3 analysis.

(Exception of Nerbins and Mao, I know their experience level.)

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Is that a random vote?

 

[Wiisp]

so apparently having a majority of people town read someone is beneficial in a multi-ball
#HBC | Gorf
I got no info (confirming it first)
but something did happen to me that just seems so unbelievably swingy
and if an evil alignment is dictating this, then just wow

 

[Shurian]

No,
I havent reread Chaco yet (I saw someone saying they reread Chaco and they looked bad apparently)

But Poyzin's posts have not been of substance, and since Wam flips town... he looks awfully suspicious to me. I'd list down the reasons in a more detailed post with several others in the future.

We could see more of Poyzin later on but this for now is my vote

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

what does fm stand for?

ive been playing for over 10 years, if im not mistaken most everyone here’s been playing for years with the exception of mao and maybe gellnick(?)

based off your first skim can you give me two of your most notable reads

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

so apparently having a majority of people town read someone is beneficial in a multi-ball
#HBC | Gorf
I got no info (confirming it first)
but something did happen to me that just seems so unbelievably swingy
and if an evil alignment is dictating this, then just wow

its funny we were all noobtown reading him, and i personally swear noobtown and noobscum can look so similar. but really he could get away with that early cuz all he had to do was actually scumhunt and i mean **** he made it work. but mafia definitely probably tried getting a guaranteed kill on a universal townread


makes me wonder if traitor commuted, i was thinking. dont feel the need to confirm one way or another rn

 

[Wiisp]

my experience lvl includes 3 years of mafia
and being a part of the first group to clean sweep the mafia in MUs Champs

Wam
sorry Wam, still don't really regret that, I wish you weren't up against ex who I was really against
still pushing towards Ex town

for the people who have experience with Chaco, does he get overwhelmed as a wolf?

 

[Wiisp]

its funny we were all noobtown reading him, and i personally swear noobtown and noobscum can look so similar. but really he could get away with that early cuz all he had to do was actually scumhunt and i mean **** he made it work. but mafia definitely probably tried getting a guaranteed kill on a universal townread


makes me wonder if traitor commuted, i was thinking. dont feel the need to confirm one way or another rn

idk Mao is definitely is the stronger of the two people that yall were town-coring
I couldn't even remember an Eido post honestly

 

[Nerbins]

Hi folks I'm Whysper
Also hey Shuri, how've you been

Might as well add on to the experience people have, I've been playing very on-and-off for around 4 years almost exclusively on FoL with my playstyle/enjoyment changing somewhere close to a million times since I started. Only person I know here is Shuri and I don't remember their playstyle.

Read like the first 8 pages of messages pretty thoroughly and am gonna prioritize reading all of Eido's posts, but I've gotta go to sleep. Also not sure if this'll elicit a groaning response or what but anyone know if there's an ISO option here?
Also FM means forum mafia

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

don’t have a strong answer either way. knowing him i doubt its like that though

do you mean leaning toward ex town or ex too lazy to really get a good read but his noob flailing was townie enough. cuz let me tell you about this noob wolf that everyone townread that just died

 

[Detective Mao]

Sleepy reads incoming

Detective Mao I do know your identity, but I have not played with you before. The guys back at FoL said you were a charming one and missed you.

Aww, that's sweet <3 I miss them too.

Here are some reads from me skimming and ISOing people throughout the day. I can respond to questions and stuff, but they'll be more fleshed out when I get to interact with people.

Gorf
FrozenFlame
Swiss
Osieorb18

Rhand
gellnick
Wiisp

UtopianPoyzin
ExLight -> Shurian
Whysper -> Nerbins

The middle column is mostly interchangeable? I think? Bleh?

People were talking about me being a tunneled town, which made me hesitant on my ExLight read yesterday
But upon re-reading, I was like "...no"
So prepare yourself, Shurian, I'm gonna grill you

 

[Detective Mao]

Hi folks I'm Whysper
Also hey Shuri, how've you been

Might as well add on to the experience people have, I've been playing very on-and-off for around 4 years almost exclusively on FoL with my playstyle/enjoyment changing somewhere close to a million times since I started. Only person I know here is Shuri and I don't remember their playstyle.

Read like the first 8 pages of messages pretty thoroughly and am gonna prioritize reading all of Eido's posts, but I've gotta go to sleep. Also not sure if this'll elicit a groaning response or what but anyone know if there's an ISO option here?
Also FM means forum mafia

Your slot was AFK, so I'm curious to see what you will do. Good to have you in the game!

 

[Detective Mao]

For all I know, there's no ISO option, but you can search someone's posts and that's as close as you'll get.

 

[Shurian]

My first skim gave me the impression that Rhand/Swiss was scum because of the sheer shenanigans that happen at SOD. I felt that the thread progression, while going somewhere, was haphazard and awkward in the sense that they were two scum putting out "content" so to set a kind of foundation for themselves later on in the game...

It's a first for me to see xD

Rhand felt better as I read through (reading off my notes here) and Swiss for me is a mood because I can't stand the #postno and commentary, while it supposedly shows flow of thought, it really broke my attention when I was supposed to read through thread, especially if something was happening and BOOM a post commentary and readlist.

I'm biased against Swiss as a result, and no offense Swiss, I haven't seen this playstyle before and will try to adapt accordingly.

 

[Wiisp]

There is no iso feature per say, but like I said to someone else
if you use the search feature on the top right
enter a name, and click posts by this thread, you will get your best hope

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

idk Mao is definitely is the stronger of the two people that yall were town-coring
I couldn't even remember an Eido post honestly

i dont mind 90% of town meatriding me him or mao that early honestly. eido wouldve spewed toDay I’m sure, mao will prob spew D3 or so. But man if I’m scum y’all better nk me

 

[Wiisp]

you are the first person to mention this playstyle is radical for Swiss

 

[Shurian]

Mao was a townread at first but Osie's words had some point to them. I'm townleaning them, but am curious to why scum didnt attack Mao last night.

I read ExLight's readlist and found that I have very contrasting reads. Nerbins will have to step up here for Whysper, it's been 2 years since I played with you... gimme whatchu got >:3

you are the first person to mention this playstyle is radical for Swiss

I've never played with them before, just saying how I think of the playstyle (haha trash). Personally not a fan, but the game for me is omly just beginning.

 

[Detective Mao]

My first skim gave me the impression that Rhand/Swiss was scum because of the sheer shenanigans that happen at SOD. I felt that the thread progression, while going somewhere, was haphazard and awkward in the sense that they were two scum putting out "content" so to set a kind of foundation for themselves later on in the game...

It's a first for me to see xD

Rhand felt better as I read through (reading off my notes here) and Swiss for me is a mood because I can't stand the #postno and commentary, while it supposedly shows flow of thought, it really broke my attention when I was supposed to read through thread, especially if something was happening and BOOM a post commentary and readlist.

I'm biased against Swiss as a result, and no offense Swiss, I haven't seen this playstyle before and will try to adapt accordingly.

...I got the opposite impression, so that's interesting.
Do you think that they'd be the same faction in this case putting on some theatrics? Or would they be part of different factions?

 

[Wiisp]

Well Mao's readlist is certainly easy, I think people are wrong on Exlight
and every person that doesn't think I am town by now will slowly begin to drop down my list

curious what Nerbins will bring to the table

 

[Detective Mao]

...I got the opposite impression, so that's interesting.

Oh yeah, and this was about the former point. Sorry, I'm uh, kinda tired. It's barely 7AM

 

[Wiisp]

osieorb18
did u tickle me last night? I can't imagine you saying yes since that would almost always be a scum claim
but I want to hear your answer none-the-less

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

you are the first person to mention this playstyle is radical for Swiss

is this @me? Cuz I don’t remember saying that, this is pretty par for the course for swiss

mao you being tunnely has less to do with your conviction on scum!exlight and more to do with your seeming lack of strength in reads elsewhere. imma iso you but im curious about others reads you gave yesterDay because exlight was the only one that was any remarkable to my memory. and I’d say you’re still a townread

do you mean leaning toward ex town or ex too lazy to really get a good read but his noob flailing was townie enough. cuz let me tell you about this noob wolf that everyone townread that just died

Wiisp this was a serious question

 

[Shurian]

Detective Mao Mind giving a good shakedown on the board? Just a readlist to tell me where you stand (excluding me because it's kinda unfair to slot me in when my slot is AtEing)

I thought that they were the same faction together LOL

Either T/T or S/S.
Then again: Rhand is looking good for me (not out of PoE however) but Swiss is another story. I also need to reread their dynamic relationship in the middle of the day to generate a better read (which luckily, I have plenty of time)

 

[Detective Mao]

Scroll ~15 posts up..?

 

[Wiisp]

I do not think he is flailing, I think his overall reaction to my claim and peoples responses to it is somewhat hard to fake
people pointing out he had some inconsistencies in his posts, but like its probably just town!Exlight being really abrupt with his thoughts, and not thinking about them. I also think his insistence that he is town, is just something wolves do not highlight on

Swiss is still on my naughty list for trying to get role that is confirmed in the setup, dead day 1

 

[Wiisp]

also I am not being lazy

 

[Detective Mao]

Detective Mao Mind giving a good shakedown on the board? Just a readlist to tell me where you stand (excluding me because it's kinda unfair to slot me in when my slot is AtEing)

I thought that they were the same faction together LOL

Either T/T or S/S.
Then again: Rhand is looking good for me (not out of PoE however) but Swiss is another story. I also need to reread their dynamic relationship in the middle of the day to generate a better read (which luckily, I have plenty of time)

Meh

Considering you only talked about the S/S scenario, how would that interaction be T/T if you just said both of them gave you an ingenuine feel in those posts?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

nah it’s a lazy read but that’s nai from you honestly. i get just ****in resigning a read like that to “if that kid wasn’t town he’s a piece of **** for thinking that’s okay to do as scum.” I’ve seen worse flip scum which is why I take AtE ****storms as steadfastly nai. Idk exlight so for all we know he might be that guy

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I do not think he is flailing

It is flailing regardless of alignment to replace from a game and clog the thread for the next 24 hours with dumb bull****

 

[Shurian]

Oh
This forum is wonky, I'm not used to pressing a button for updates xD

I cant scroll up in peace Dx
Lemme consolidate everything first and see...

Meh

Considering you only talked about the S/S scenario, how would that interaction be T/T if you just said both of them gave you an ingenuine feel in those posts?

In a T/T scenario, it would mean they were hard forcing their way through to make everyone uncomfortable and gather reads off them. I can see town motivation in doing so. That's also where this "foundation" would supposedly be laid, but I'm world building here, I could be wrong

It can't be T/S or S/S on different teams because I dont think they would try this bullockery without leaving weaker wolves vulnerable... Also I don't know much, but I wanna try to find out the Traitor from the beautiful first conflict. This should be possible considering Eido flipped scum.

 

[Wiisp]

lmao have we played together before? and I do not think many people actively play like this to garner an advantage has either alignment. I will say, I have seen some of the worst OOG tactics, whether intentional or not, on this site

if u want to take the ****storm as NAI, that's fine, I am will see what Shurian brings, but my town read will stay for now
I still think Exlights reactions up until the worst part, was relatively good

 

[Wiisp]

It is flailing regardless of alignment to replace from a game and clog the thread for the next 24 hours with dumb bull****

no, while I still am heavily against people replacing in thread, I do know how it feels to get frustrated
and he was one of the 3 people along side me and you, who was actually here for EoD, which I won't use against anyone else, but ya
I think we have different opinions of flailing honestly

anyways its 12am and I have work at 8am, so good night

 

[Shurian]

It is flailing regardless of alignment to replace from a game and clog the thread for the next 24 hours with dumb bull****

Wont be able to flail if you dont have arms

My slot's arms have been cut off because this guy truth claimed lmfao
Cant even fake claim PR smh

Anyway, time to reread. I would like more shenanigans, as I think in role-madness games would be easier to hide our PRs. Leaving kalmness is as akin to crawling on a basketball court hiding from sniper fire.

Cya~

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I will say, I have seen some of the worst OOG tactics, whether intentional or not, on this site

yeo we’ll have to talk oot some time, ive been here through plenty of grime. For you to say you’ve seen some of the worst oog tactics here doesnt surprise me.

either way i dont feel as cranked to give you a case on exlight as i did yesterDay but i appreciate you following up on that so soon

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Okay so my terrible take of FF/Ex are a duo is terrible and in hindsight I like FF a lot more. Gave Mao and Gorf too much credit tho, specifically the latter. Gorf is null at best I’m afraid.

I’m not particularly upset at the hammer, like Gorf hammering is nai, #hbc. What really got me thinking was what I perceived to be him attaching himself to Swiss’s whom I think is actually town here. I also don’t like the fact that he kept on bring up the possibility of him being night killed, I mean like unless you’re the seer (which I doubt because you jokingly asked the seer to claim iirc (was it you?)) or claiming the last TPR then idk why you’re concerned about dying, unless in an attempt to stay off the radar of the opposing scum team. In addition I didn’t like you acting apologetic upon the first time voting me because it sounded like you knew I was town but wanted to justify it like “There aren’t any other options” and I’m not actually that opposed to your wam vote but the fact that you’re now voting alongside Ex’s slot is the real kicker for me.

It’s another one of those positions where one realize’s that their read of the gamestate is completely wrong so the only course of action is to turn the game on its end. Feels generally like gorf from the 2019 summer game which was a phenomenal scum game but yeah that’s my first idea for the day. Still scumread both slots that replaced in as well.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Gorf is a scumread for me currently, I say null at best because that’s the most I can foresee this read changing after further discussion

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Wiisp
Swiss
Rhand
Osie
Mao
FrozenFlame
Gellnick
Replacements
Gorf

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

7 good 4 evil remaining we have a pretty good chance at accidentally hitting scum. For that reason I don’t want to push my crackhead Gorf!scum read atm but exeing either Ex or Whysper replacements are good ideas to me. I also suggest we massclaim maaaaaaybe?