Mafia and Werewolves Gamethread

[gellnick]

I mean at first the only apparent twist at first was it being multiball aka having multiple enemy factions right
I just don't follow why the power roles would be crazy just because of that

lol that's fair, crazy might not be the right word but it's the word I'm gonna use.

 

[ExLight]

lol that's fair, crazy might not be the right word but it's the word I'm gonna use.

bruh that's nuts

 

[gellnick]

bruh that's nuts

Thanks!

 

[ExLight]

ExLight/Wiisp/SR
Eido
Osie/Rhand
Mao/Gellnick/Whysper
Gorf/Wam/Chaco/FF/Swiss

my update rainbowlist

 

[ExLight]

yes it has a ton of OMGUS but I know I'm town for sure and I'll suspect anyone that goes after someone I know to be town yes you can just pocket me and I'll be your bish

 

[ExLight]

swap chaco for Poyzin, forgot to do so

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Spoiler: some notes, tagged if im looking for a response

#540 Whysper
weak content " Anyway, my overall impression of Swiss is an experienced wolf taking an aggressive town stance and blatantly pocketing people in hopes of keeping them on his side" - offers no reasoning as to why this is an alignment tell. Offers nothing of substance about the person being pocketed. Samw will apply to the Swiss/Gorf relationship when others mention this later.
dislike wysper

strongly agree

how much mafia experience do you have? its strange that this is the first thing youre gonna say about swiss that tipped you off. you say you were getting a scum vibe from swiss, can you explain a few of the things that tipped you off leading to this interaction specifically?

this pinged me a lot about whysper and i havent gotten an answer so

this is whyspers first thoughts about her scumlean on swiss. this post reads a lot like scum faking a read, she really didnt mention ANYTHING from before then about swiss if im not mistaken. really didnt have any comment by someone she agreed with aside from chaco saying swiss is a legend scum player which is nothing. its so guarded, idk how to describe it

osieorb18 you wanted to be convinced about scum!whysper, here are two points

Personally I’d still take the lynch and run with it. But I think this might stall for other people.

wow guys swiss really wanted to lynch the cop claim huh

scarlet #616 is cursed

Stupid town holy sh

cop on me
Seer on me
Doc on me

lynch Exlight in the meantime
Lynch wiisp tomorrow

Everyone is a winner

Rhand what did you think this post meant

#690 Exlight accuses me of being scummy for pushing the Wiisp lynch and claim in the first place. Yes when before Wiisp claimed Exlight said "Swiss/Wiisp leading wagons lesgo" and was happy to allow him to be pressured into a claim. He's trying to change history, making it look like he was defnending an 'obvious power role', but that's not what he did.
Dislike massively

strongly agree, i seriously wonder if people are assuming exlights town cuz of the noise when hes BEEN scummy

Why do you immediately assume he was speaking the truth when you previously had him in your scumreads? You're ignoring some crucial details with the way you're pressuring Swiss, it feels an awful lot like pu agenda.

more quotes for truth about exlight playing a scummy game. but he woe is me’d so hes town right?

I’m not? I’m pointing out that as a veteran I find him committing this kind of play as town is unlikely.
I’m still pushing for his lynch because I don’t think him coordinating actions around himself is trustworthy.

this is literally not an answer to maos questiom above. he skirted talking about wiisp and why he just believes his claim entirely

yea you’re parroting on Gorf and Swiss bad opinions

you’re in my scumlean now

how is this a post made by a townie

Hi, I'm on computer again



Why are you treating Wiisp as a confirmed town now?
You're still doing the same thing I said earlier
All your posts feel like constant perspective slipping

strongly agree

Mao fearmongering the thread dying is yuck. It's funny that it's followed up with "But the thread is unlikely to die soon." Then what was the point of the previous post, ehh?!

i get your point here but considering the game revolved around swss v rhand at this time (and it didnt feel short when it was happening), and mao had already weighed in if im not mistaken, i dont think this is all that scummy.

strongly agree with osies take on chaco and wam in pg 24 notes

osieorb18 what is cftwrand why do you hate my playstyle

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

i have a strong idea im getting nk’d or im horribly incorrect. maybe i am arrogant

 

[ExLight]

this is literally not an answer to maos questiom above. he skirted talking about wiisp and why he just believes his claim entirely

how is it not an answer yall complaining about having to spell out **** for me but yall doing the same
That kind of play doesn't come from scum to me, because of that he isn't in my scumleans anymore, and because of that I'm inclined in believing them until a counterclaim appears. No counterclaim = I believe that claim.

how is this a post made by a townie

can you try to see it considering a ExLight+Wiisp as town please?
Do you really think there wouldn't be someone from mafia (or traitor) interested in getting the cop lynched during the Day Phase where they don't have to worry about Doctors/Watchers/Trackers/Roleblockers/Redirectors? Pushing Wiisp is extremely strange and it's very likely someone from the Mafia team is there helping it.

 

[ExLight]

That kind of play doesn't come from scum to me

and before yall even START saying that this is me believing him blindly I already said that it makes no sense for scum to claim something like this because if they get counterclaimed they lose half of their team which already hurts them more than an usual cop in a game and if they're like the traitor they get shot which is a bit damaging to themselves and I already explained my logic and I'm tired I think I'll nap and try to be around for EoD :rinsad:

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Was busy most of the day. Still not caught up 100% caught up but that's neither here nor there at this point because I don't have much time until dl

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

I don't think Wam is the move tm here.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Was busy most of the day. Still not caught up 100% caught up but that's neither here nor there at this point because I don't have much time until dl

nah you should catch up 100% and quick fire reads

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Just caught up anyway

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Claimed:
Wiisp
ScarletRage



Remaining:
Swiss
Gorf
Rhand
Mao
Osie
Eido
ExLight
Gellnick
Wam
FrozenFlame
Whysper

Vote: Whysper

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Gorf if you’re scum I will cry, listen to me when I’m gone tho. Brb for 20

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Listen to him ebwop

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

hate to say it to you but your votes wasted there, whysper aint happening toDay. its exlight or wam from your readslist

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Xivii Chop Chop updated vc?

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Pain

Whysper in this game reminds me of somitomi from CV Mafia. Frozenflame here... reminds me of frozenflame from CV Mafia.

That being said I don't really want to do Ex or Wam here but uh lms...

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Vote: ExLight

Bad scum takes, has my slot as a scumread but also wants me to stick around? Not a huge fan tbh, would rather this go than Wam

 

[Eido]

Can we just go Gellnick?

unvote
vote: Gellnick

I can switch to Wam too

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

man everyone is tryna offer up all my scumpool as lynch targets

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Them getting into arguments is typical Ex behavior, I think the Ex vs FF was pretty pointless and didn't get anything out of it

Vote: Wam

I can do Wam

That's a pretty hands-off response to someone who's an apparent scumread oopo

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

lmao bro no one said your interpretation was "absurd" why do you people keep inventing ****

I literally just said you were wrong to blatantly call us wrong for interpreting wiisp's claim as not a straightforward clear because your math was wrong because you did not understand how traitor actually worked in this game. You made a fallacious assumption based on anecdotal experience and I told you your math was wrong as a result and you were wrong to project that anecdotal experience to this game like that because it's overtly fallacious.

sorry that someone walking you through your fallacy is detrimental to your mental health but like dude, YOU were the one talking down to us first. no you're just mad because you were shown to be wrong in your assumptions

and don’t ****ing call me bro

Lmao this is about to be some distancing **** and one of the teams is going to be Ex+FF, these arguments tho looooool

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

It's petty. Ex was singling out FF quotes to get mad at and then quickly switched back to being calm and saying "so what next", they are being so incredibly hostile that I'd be surprised if these were genuine insults but yeah idk what the point of them fighting was, could be neat to keep in mind tho

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

I scumread Ex more tho. The reason why I take a step back is because assuming their scum together and they're out here putting on a broadway performance is because its massively conjecture and I shouldn't be stepping too far ahead when I don't even know what Ex will flip but tbh I feel it will be some sort of scum here.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

guys if i die in the Night i seriously wonder if, with how much rhand has grilled swiss for directing prs etc, rhand actually believed seer to be what he said it is while also reading swiss say “cop on me seer on me doc on me” without batting an eye then. how can the seer be “on“ swiss if it was more like an oracle?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I scumread Ex more tho. The reason why I take a step back is because assuming their scum together and they're out here putting on a broadway performance is because its massively conjecture and I shouldn't be stepping too far ahead when I don't even know what Ex will flip but tbh I feel it will be some sort of scum here.

i dont think theres a universe where ff and exlight are on the same scum team

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

i dont think theres a universe where ff and exlight are on the same scum team

Idk

 

[Wiisp]

why do we keep telling people trains can't happen? lol
Vote: Wam

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

why do we keep telling people trains can't happen? lol
Vote: Wam

dawg you claimed cuz you didnt think trains can happen

 

[Eido]

I gotta leave soon. It's late for me. Who we going?

Unvote
Vote: Wam

 

[Wiisp]

so it looks like I did play with Whysper on FoL, and they actually posted there, and was town
#HBC | Gorf
meh I claimed for many reasons, but I might be being too optimistic here, since EoD is in 3 hours, and Idk everyone's timezones

 

[Eido]

ExLight / Swiss / Gorf / Wiisp - Comfortable. Could be a Power Wolf here.
Scarlet / Mao / Osie / Frozen - Not sure, need more. Scum could fake it here.
Wam / Rhand / Gellnick / Whysper / Chaco - Not a fan. Would vote here toDay.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

im waiting for a vc before hopping to wam just to be sure but its looking like im gonna wind up there

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Isn't it twilight?

 

[Chop Chop]

Vote Count

Wam (6) - rhand, osie, gellnick, exlight, wiisp, eido
exlight (3) - swiss, Gorf, utopian
utopian (2) - wam, mao
swiss (1) - whysper
Not Voting (1) - scarlet


With 14 alive it takes 8 to execute. Day 1 ends Sunday 8:00 pm PT.

 

[ExLight]

Isn't it twilight?

2h30 hours to go

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

shame. if wam understood the concept of self pers and if mao was able to be present, we mightve been able to swing exlight