Mafia and Werewolves Gamethread

[Wam]

I'm confused how the items allow them to coordinate around?

 

[ExLight]

I'm confused how the items allow them to coordinate around?

one scum commuting causes your action to fail and bulletproof prevents them from dying
how does it not stop you

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

exlights just spewing scum again but dont worry everyone townreads him for it

 

[osieorb18]

Wam G2H full readlist with explanations please.

 

[ExLight]

exlights just spewing scum again but dont worry everyone townreads him for it

oh so you running after an open claimed role is townie but me inquiring a role that harms town is scummy
c'mon dude

 

[Wiisp]

Wait the traitor is an inventor? Also I'm finna think about that claim before I say anything, I refuse to mod game. U may call this hypocritical but my circumstance is different, the question u should ask yourself, is Wam wolfy enough to warrant the possible loss of a town PR. Personally the claim means very little to me, but I would like to know some things

Wam you said you can only hit PRs? If so do you know if your ability is successful?

 

[ExLight]

Wait the traitor is an inventor?

did noone read the dang setup

 

[ExLight]

WAIT NEVERMIND I'M AN IDIOT

 

[ExLight]

The Traitor is JOAT and the only inventor thing is the BPV

I'm sorry please ignore me while I bang my head against the wall

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

oh so you running after an open claimed role is townie but me inquiring a role that harms town is scummy

yep, you wont push me cuz you dont scumread me cuz your read on me is fake though. but people are townreading you anyway

 

[Wam]

Wam G2H full readlist with explanations please.

G2H?

Wait the traitor is an inventor? Also I'm finna think about that claim before I say anything, I refuse to mod game. U may call this hypocritical but my circumstance is different, the question u should ask yourself, is Wam wolfy enough to warrant the possible loss of a town PR. Personally the claim means very little to me, but I would like to know some things

Wam you said you can only hit PRs? If so do you know if your ability is successful?

I can hit anyone. As thenrolenis explained to me.
If a targets b and c targets d.

I target a and c. C targets b and a targets d.

It a target b and c is doesnt target anyone, a targets no one.

If a both target no one I havent achieved anything.

 

[ExLight]

yep, you wont push me cuz you dont scumread me cuz your read on me is fake though. but people are townreading you anyway

I won't push you because it's a waste of time because everyone seems to be townreading you fsr despite me saying you're scum
I'd rather pursue a scumlean that other players agree with

 

[ExLight]

ok I guess that does sound scummy somewhat

 

[ExLight]

I'm town, though :rinsad:

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I won't push you because it's a waste of time because everyone seems to be townreading you fsr despite me saying you're scum
I'd rather pursue a scumlean that other players agree with

youre not pushing anybody or anything, youre going where the wind blows and riding on peoples townreads of you. ill tell you what youre doing a good job as scum clogging the thread tho

 

[Wiisp]

Is he though? Like is he really? Like show me the proof.

This is tootoo #1175

 

[ExLight]

youre not pushing anybody or anything, youre going where the wind blows and riding on peoples townreads of you. ill tell you what youre doing a good job as scum clogging the thread tho

can you just shut up and kiss me already

 

[Wam]

ExLight

Assuming you believe the claims statistically I'm far more likely to hit scum than town pr.

There 2 town pr, 5 scum and 4 vt.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Is he though? Like is he really? Like show me the proof.

This is tootoo #1175

ill prob get to it toMorrow, he aint looking like the play in the time i got to invest into the game today

 

[gellnick]

I don't get why this role would be in the game, but then again... This game is already whack. Why not add some more crazy?
I'm not sure what to think of Wam's claim, I'm split between being certain it's a fake because why is it in the game and believing wam, because this role is just crazy enough to be in the game

 

[Wiisp]

I don't get why this role would be in the game, but then again... This game is already whack. Why not add some more crazy?
I'm not sure what to think of Wam's claim, I'm split between being certain it's a fake because why is it in the game and believing wam, because this role is just crazy enough to be in the game

I don't get this post at all? What do you even mean? Unless you have reason to believe there does exist a crazy role?

 

[ExLight]

ExLight

Assuming you believe the claims statistically I'm far more likely to hit scum than town pr.

There 2 town pr, 5 scum and 4 vt.

hmm

Only 2 scum can kill per night and depending on how the host does it I feel like the scum power roles will carry both the kill and the actions? so it's actually 3 scum (2 doing **** and traitor) and 4vt; that's 6 town and 3 scum

 

[ExLight]

hmm

Only 2 scum can kill per night and depending on how the host does it I feel like the scum power roles will carry both the kill and the actions? so it's actually 3 scum (2 doing **** and traitor) and 4vt; that's 6 town and 3 scum

I guess the odds are still in town's favor since you're more likely to block scum with vanilla than block town hmm

 

[gellnick]

I don't get this post at all? What do you even mean? Unless you have reason to believe there does exist a crazy role?

I'm trying to say that I'm not sure if it makes sense that this role is in this game, but the setup of this game is already crazy enough that this role could be in the game. Does that make sense?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Is he though? Like is he really? Like show me the proof.

This is tootoo #1175

lol i bet youre not even actually interested in any sort of proof about it, ill make a call that ill post it and were still gonna brush off exlights woe is meing as townie cuz its more convenient than actually trying to get a read on him

 

[ExLight]

I'm trying to say that I'm not sure if it makes sense that this role is in this game, but the setup of this game is already crazy enough that this role could be in the game. Does that make sense?

But why do you think it's crazy?

 

[ExLight]

lol i bet youre not even actually interested in any sort of proof about it, ill make a call that ill post it and were still gonna brush off exlights woe is meing as townie cuz its more convenient than actually trying to get a read on him

I have a precept that says "if ExLight isn't being a pain to read he's scum" if that helps

 

[ExLight]

wait, that's a principle, not a precept maybe

"if ExLight isn't being a pain to read lynch him"
there fixed

 

[Wam]

Rapid reads list
Town
Scarlet - believe the claim
Wiisp - assuming no cc
eido - newbie town
Gorf - good logic good approach.
Mao - has just come across townie in every post.
Flame - I like it so far but town lean
Swiss - neutral waiting to see.
Osie - replaced a lurker not seen enough either way to judge.
Rhand - moved up as if I misjudged wiisp so much maybe more due to culture clash than I originally stated.
Gellnick - lots of wierd strong reads. Which dont come across townie but stronger than I would expect from scum.
ExLight- I really dont know and whish I had another 48 hours to iso this slot.
whysper - where are they?
utopian - on re read chaco looked bad. Utopian hasnt fixed that.

 

[gellnick]

But why do you think it's crazy?

It doesn't really seem to fit in as a Town role in my experience, admittedly I don't have too much experience with roles such as this one, so I could be very wrong.

 

[ExLight]

It doesn't really seem to fit in as a Town role in my experience, admittedly I don't have too much experience with roles such as this one, so I could be very wrong.

No, I mean the setup.

 

[Wiisp]

lol i bet youre not even actually interested in any sort of proof about it, ill make a call that ill post it and were still gonna brush off exlights woe is meing as townie cuz its more convenient than actually trying to get a read on him

Of course I am... You literally liked the post where I reminded people of my playstyle, even Rhand said it before, "Wisp wouldn't hate the case on me if it wasn't NAI". I still think we are trying to hard to force reads here, but again I'm not good with AtE at all. So idk, I don't see why his reactions are that bad like others have pointed out

 

[ExLight]

Of course I am... You literally liked the post where I reminded people of my playstyle, even Rhand said it before, "Wisp wouldn't hate the case on me if it wasn't NAI". I still think we are trying to hard to force reads here, but again I'm not good with AtE at all. So idk, I don't see why his reactions are that bad like others have pointed out

bb if you get me lynched me flipping town will make it easier to pursue their lynch next Day Phase
please kill me?

 

[gellnick]

No, I mean the setup.

The 5 unknown PRs, mostly. Also the part about the Traitor.
I've never seen a game where some PRs are known and others aren't, I've been in games where no one knows what PRs there are, in games where there's a list of possible PRs, and in games where there are known PRs, but nothing like this.
I've also never heard of a Traitor knowing who the scum are.

 

[gellnick]

please kill me?

I'm not sure what to think of this now...
Seems like throwing either way, but I guess there could be a strategy?
IDK, maybe scum has a powerful PR and Exlight's just trying to protect them since they're high in the PoE rn?
Just a random theory that still doesn't make much sense to me.

 

[ExLight]

The 5 unknown PRs, mostly. Also the part about the Traitor.
I've never seen a game where some PRs are known and others aren't, I've been in games where no one knows what PRs there are, in games where there's a list of possible PRs, and in games where there are known PRs, but nothing like this.

ok fair, but why would that make "crazy roles" more likely
why wouldn't the PRs be normal

I've also never heard of a Traitor knowing who the scum are.

afaik that's the whole point of a traitor?

 

[ExLight]

IDK, maybe scum has a powerful PR and Exlight's just trying to protect them since they're high in the PoE rn?

oh yes the classical begging to get lynched as soon as possible so I can completely cripple my team by sacrificing half of it strategy
classic

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Of course I am... You literally liked the post where I reminded people of my playstyle, even Rhand said it before, "Wisp wouldn't hate the case on me if it wasn't NAI". I still think we are trying to hard to force reads here, but again I'm not good with AtE at all. So idk, I don't see why his reactions are that bad like others have pointed out

gotchu homie

 

[gellnick]

ok fair, but why would that make "crazy roles" more likely
why wouldn't the PRs be normal


afaik that's the whole point of a traitor?

Let me put it this way: I've never played a setup like this one before, and I find it very different to what I've played in the past.
And I've never played with a Traitor like that, in my experience they never know who the scum they're trying to find are.

 

[ExLight]

Let me put it this way: I've never played a setup like this one before, and I find it very different to what I've played in the past.

I mean at first the only apparent twist at first was it being multiball aka having multiple enemy factions right
I just don't follow why the power roles would be crazy just because of that

And I've never played with a Traitor like that, in my experience they never know who the scum they're trying to find are.

ok that's fair